CGC sub, harsh or on point?17634
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I'm posting this in the CGC forums too but I'd like to get your all's point of view. I clean and pressed this book myself. I had it around a 7.5 to 8. I wasn't sure how harsh the creases would be graded. I worked hard to get the back cleaned and white pages (lots of blue light). The red lines indicate the crease length. Does a 6 seem harsh?    |
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Four creases like that, I'd say it's on point. | ||
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| It does look clean tho, presents very nice! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy That's crazy, I've seen precode horror books with terrible spines at higher grades. The rear creases are imperceptible unless you tilt the comic in the right light. Also, the front creases are more like dents as they don't show on the interior cover. Sorry, just venting. Really didn't think that they would ding this so bad. Lesson learned someone is getting a really nice presenting 6.0  on the cheap. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sleeperbat Yup, here's how it started out      |
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Quote:Originally Posted by consumetheliving I think the color loss (broken fibers), even in the white, is probably what did it. They do appear light, but as you and others point out, that just mean it presents very nicely. |
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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| That copy has a LOT of eye appeal. I agree with everyone else, though. That many colour-breaking creases, even if they're really thin and hard to see, are still multiple colour-breaking creases and some are of a non-trivial length. That grade looks pretty fair. | ||
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| Thank you everyone for your input. | ||
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| more modern books are graded tougher than goldenage books. | ||
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consumetheliving private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I've heard that and now I know. |
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| One would think there would be a little more to the grader's notes than just "light creasing to cover." | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson For real, light creasing on cover 6.0. I have 9.4's with more grader notes |
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| I see other creases and defects (not marked against red lines) and that is with the low res image. Based on the quick look/low res photo that would indeed be a harshly graded 6.0 but I suspect higher res photos will reveal more defects… Presents extremely nice in the photos for a 6.0 |
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Quote:Originally Posted by consumetheliving The "creases" on the FC look like manufacturing defects, which are commonly seen in plenty CGC and CBCS 9.8 slabbed books. I'm on my cell ATM and can't make out much on the BC but it seems like you got boned hard on this book. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave I had to reduce the size of the images or it locks up my browser when trying to post. Also, the lighting in my place doesn't help.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ComicHoarderFor sure these arent "creases" in that the paper wasnt folded over. You can't see them in the inner cover only on the outside FC. It is what it is. I reached out to CGC and they politely said if I I disagree that I can resubmit and pay again  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash That was fantastic ah ah ah |
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| Are there graders notes or are you strictly basing the given grade on what you personally saw? Is it possible CGC saw something you missed or they detected something in the cleaning/pressing that kept it from a higher grade? Edit: I’m not implying you or CGC are wrong. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash Yup notes say light creases on cover. It's all subjective in the end but it was a good learning experience. Still have more to learn when it comes to pre-grading, cleaning, and pressing. |
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| It does look better than a 6 but the white is forgiving. I see additional creases on front cover and also heavy waviness/ripples on bottom edge of back cover. My guess is accumulation of stuff not visible in those photos plus the creases… plus tight grading (potentially). Quote: Originally Posted by consumetheliving |
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| Again, thank you all for your feedback!!! I hope to be able to reciprocate going forward. | ||
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| Boxing on corners staples look meh creases. Ticks. If anything you got lucky with the grade. Overstreet grading would have it a 5.0 give or take | ||
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| It is definitely a very nice looking 6.0 based on photos. It presents above that grade but again suspect the color masks defects as does the limited resolution to see defects that add up to the lower 6.0 grade. Overstreet: 6.0 FINE (FN): An above-average copy that shows minor wear but is still relatively flat and clean with no significant creasing or other serious defects. Some accumulation of minor bindery/printing defects is allowed. Minor cover wear apparent, with minor to moderate creases. Inks show a significant reduction in reflectivity. Blunted corners are more common, as is minor staining, soiling, discoloration, and/or foxing. Stamped or inked arrival dates may be present. A minor spine roll is allowed. There can also be a 1/4" spine split or severe color break. Staples may show minor discoloration. Minor staple tears and a few slight stress lines may be present, as well as minor rust migration. Paper is tan to brown and fairly supple with no signs of brittleness. Minor interior tears at the margin may be present. Centerfold may be loose. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I have 2 9.6s of shehulk 1 This 6.0 copy looks better than both of mine |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Dam, I needed that grader  |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by consumetheliving Yea... its a train wreck. Rubs. Tics. And just overall not presenting well. Good news is they'll be someone else's problem soon. |
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| Seems pretty fair to me. | ||
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consumetheliving private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So I've decided that this comic will be my money pit project. I have cracked and pulled her from her tranquil tomb to find several spin ticks that don't brake color (thank you white cover). One is pretty bad that borders on crease territory which I am trying to work out. I have managed to work out all of the ticks and will give it another good pressing. Now, do I submit it to CGC or give CBCS a shot? I'm leaning CBCS but I wonder if they will also knock the cover defects like CGC did. | ||
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| So it appears the grade was accurate? | ||
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