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Originally Posted by beastboy1980
stupid question

when they decide the worth of the comic book the grading houses. what are they going buy to judge the value.


is it overstreet price guide ?

and the turn around days seems off it went from 160 days to 224 that sounds crazy

Originally Posted by Scifinator
@HeinzDad - i think a lot are waiting because of the confusion and ambiguity. Plus people have to digest the new tiers and service levels and change in TAT methodology. From my perspective, looks like there own people may not be firm on all details. I get why one may be hesitant till the get a deeper understanding. No doubt just like a new car model introduction, there are some who have to get it (in) now, while many will follow the wait several months for bugs to be worked out. Plus some waiting for Mag release.

Originally Posted by Scifinator
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Originally Posted by HulkSmash
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Originally Posted by Scifinator
@HeinzDad - i think a lot are waiting because of the confusion and ambiguity. Plus people have to digest the new tiers and service levels and change in TAT methodology. From my perspective, looks like there own people may not be firm on all details. I get why one may be hesitant till the get a deeper understanding. No doubt just like a new car model introduction, there are some who have to get it (in) now, while many will follow the wait several months for bugs to be worked out. Plus some waiting for Mag release.

I just want to know if I can Express press without Club membership or if I need to fork over the $200. I don’t give AF about price increases, I’m not sure if being Club is a benefit to ME personally. If Club is required for express press then so be it; if not that’s a few more books I can send.

@HulkSmash - you do NOT need to buy the membership to submit via express, express+, or Super express. So unless you are sending in a few higher tier comics, you may submit away.

I have spoken.

Originally Posted by beastboy1980
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Originally Posted by IronMan
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Originally Posted by beastboy1980
stupid question

when they decide the worth of the comic book the grading houses. what are they going buy to judge the value.


is it overstreet price guide ?

and the turn around days seems off it went from 160 days to 224 that sounds crazy

The Overstreet Price Guide only lists prices up to 9.2. And it is for raw books. So say Savage She-Hulk is listed in the OPG for $175 - in 9.2. The books sells for around $1200 in 9.8

CBCS and CGC look at recent sales. Probably they use GPA because it's convienent. But maybe they just look at recent sales on eBay and the various auction houses.

thanks
but i would think they should not be looking into the so called prices.
just grade the comic based on the year it is and the age.
why should they be even looking at the prices sold.
if the giant size x men #1 is costing me say $80 to grade just grade the comic.
is that not what i am paying them for

Originally Posted by IronMan
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Originally Posted by beastboy1980
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Originally Posted by IronMan
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Originally Posted by beastboy1980
stupid question

when they decide the worth of the comic book the grading houses. what are they going buy to judge the value.


is it overstreet price guide ?

and the turn around days seems off it went from 160 days to 224 that sounds crazy

The Overstreet Price Guide only lists prices up to 9.2. And it is for raw books. So say Savage She-Hulk is listed in the OPG for $175 - in 9.2. The books sells for around $1200 in 9.8

CBCS and CGC look at recent sales. Probably they use GPA because it's convienent. But maybe they just look at recent sales on eBay and the various auction houses.

thanks
but i would think they should not be looking into the so called prices.
just grade the comic based on the year it is and the age.
why should they be even looking at the prices sold.
if the giant size x men #1 is costing me say $80 to grade just grade the comic.
is that not what i am paying them for

The idea that comic book grading companies should not charge more for more expensive books is as old as well - comic book grading companies. There is a simple and truthful answer.

Getting comic books professionally graded and encapsulated (and pressing as well) is a VALUE ADDED service. Comic books are often, perhaps most often - worth MORE MONEY as a result of being professionally graded.

And a book worth $1000 has the potential to increase in value more than a book worth $100. And a book worth $50,000 a lot more than $1000. And ...... you get the idea. Value added.

Sellers cannot get the 9.8 price for a raw book. Buyers only pay that for graded copies. And there are countless examples of books that sell for a $200-$500 NM raw that are $2,000-$5,000 graded 9.8. Or sell for $10 raw NM that sell for $200 graded 9.8

With older, more expensive books, they sell for more money because buyers are much less willing to pay $50K - or even $5K - for a book that might turn out to have a tiny bit of color touch. AND - when buying/selling raw books - especially EXPENSIVE raw books - arguing about the grade is just another way to argue about the price. Before third party grading and encapsulation, collectors would purchase VF key issues and when they went to sell - even to the same dealer - be told it was FN.

We were never going to have million dollar books in this hobby without an accepted final authority on grade. Not only does grading add value, but it increases liquidity. It is now a defined, accepted grade and issue. Graded books are easier to sell, graded books are much less likely to have customers unhappy and asking to return.

The grading companies charge more because it is a value added service. And they charge more when the potential value added is more.

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Originally Posted by Scifinator
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Originally Posted by HulkSmash
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Originally Posted by Scifinator
@HeinzDad - i think a lot are waiting because of the confusion and ambiguity. Plus people have to digest the new tiers and service levels and change in TAT methodology. From my perspective, looks like there own people may not be firm on all details. I get why one may be hesitant till the get a deeper understanding. No doubt just like a new car model introduction, there are some who have to get it (in) now, while many will follow the wait several months for bugs to be worked out. Plus some waiting for Mag release.

I just want to know if I can Express press without Club membership or if I need to fork over the $200. I don’t give AF about price increases, I’m not sure if being Club is a benefit to ME personally. If Club is required for express press then so be it; if not that’s a few more books I can send.

@HulkSmash - you do NOT need to buy the membership to submit via express, express+, or Super express. So unless you are sending in a few higher tier comics, you may submit away.

I have spoken.

Express Grading; Yes. Express Pressing?; I’m not getting an option for Express Pressing. I add Press and I’m at 57 weeks with Express Grading or 67 weeks Standard Grading; either way I’m 1 year plus. How do I qualify for “Express Pressing”? Remember this is America and instant gratification is an absolute and anything below that is unacceptable

Originally Posted by Bronte
Stupid question on my part. Are you a member?