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| How woke do people have to get until they’re finally awaken? https://www.yahoo.com/news/simu-liu-not-sign-offensive-173707016.html |
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| @Haljordanfan I don't see the problem...even Starlin, the creator, left the series after being informed of the racist nature of Fu Manchu Now...Starlin may still sign those books (I don't know) but I'm guessing that Simu has more lived life connections with the racism issue? |
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| I'm not of asian decent so it doesn't phase me as much as it might others. I do have years of training with cultural sensitivity though and I will simply respect and live and let live. | ||
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| https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/17177/no-comic-sigs-from-simu-liu/ | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics Starlin does still sign the books because I have had him sign one, but I see Simu Liu's point. There is no question that Fu Manchu is highly offensive and probably a big part of why the movie deviated so much from the comics. |
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| Here's the way I look at it: Simu Liu may not sign books he deems racist. Whatever. Others can claim their "wokeness" until the sun goes down and comes back up. All it says to me is you think you are somehow loftier than everyone else. But every SINGLE one of us are into something we shouldn't be. It could be simply distasteful. It could be illegal. It could be depraved as Hell. But ALL of us are doing stuff we should not be doing. We can ALL be judged by someone else. Hence the phrase "Well, I might be a such and such, but at least I'm not..."<fill in the blank> So, "ye without sin" and all that. We make excuses for ourselves and perhaps those we love. And condemn others. Maybe Simu Liu secretly is into child pornography. Or dog fighting. And won't we all be surprised if it comes out in the news someday. Like it did with that guy Jarod from Subway. Oh! What a success story! He lost a ton of weight and subsisted on Subway fare. He inspired "fatties" everywhere! What a GREAT GUY! He's on tv! Hey, I'M overweight so I can say "fatties". That's OUR word. You can't use it. Unless you smoke pot. DO you? Is it legal in your State? No? Then you can't be "woke". You're breaking the law. "YAH BUT IT'S MEDICINALLY...." Yeah, but no. You aren't using it medicinally and you know it so just stop it. I never saw so many people suddenly advocating for cancer patients as I did when it finally got the media's attention "Hey! Pot helps!" And then: "In OTHER news, Jarod from Subway......" Well, at least he didn't sign comic books that he found racially uncool. And I think that's my biggest problem with the whole "woke" thing. Takes a whole lot of nerve to point fingers at other people and claim your sanctity when you are into the terrible things you are into. And I get it. Being "woke" implies we are trying to be "better". But usually all that's negated by the dark shit we are secretly harboring. |
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| There is plenty I could write on this topic. I choose not to but will instead say that everyone has the right to see the world through their own eyes and act accordingly. I tend towards a view that we should progress while not de-contextualizing or erasing the past. I also will say that I hope other countries apply the same principles in the future as many of these topics are portrayed in a highly skewed fashion (US centric). Most countries are decades behind where the US is today (and note that I am Canadian). |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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| @ticktocktyler how do you really feel? | ||
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| I never understood why you want actors to sign your book. I wouldn’t buy a book signed by an actor. Keep them clean or get the artist to sign em. | ||
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| I agree on the leaving the books to just the artists to sign. I saw some Downey Jr signatures on some iron man books and I would never want those in my personal collection. Everyone has their own opinion and choices though and if that's what they like so be it.... I can only say it's not right for me.... |
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 To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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| I got Jarod to sign a Subway wrapper 🤪 | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash I'm pretty laid back in real life. |
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| On the subject of actors signing books, I would like it if the cover of the book were a photo of the actor. I do have an Iron Man photo cover variant with RDJ's photo and I would like him to sign it, but let's face it, he charges too much $$$ for that. For that amount of money, I could go buy a very high grade Iron Man #128 and get it signed by Bob Layton. I like an appropriately signed book, but I'm not going broke to get that done. | ||
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Where I get aggravated is when "rules" are created on the fly. At least Simu is upfront so I don't send in a comic; only to have it returned or refused on the spot if i were to meet him. There is an artist who frequents baltimore comicon every year who makes up rules right then and there and issues new rules every single year. It is frustrating and maddening to wait on his line only to hear a new rule for that year. |
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| I don't understand why people are so incensed by this that we need two threads on the forum about it. Are we really this triggered by someone deciding not to sign something? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave I see the US erasing its past every day. Take the Confederate monuments down the past is being further whitewashed. To some, the things are a reminder of slavery and some vicious, subsequent racism. To others, it's a reminder of how this joint was actually built and keeps thinking people from getting ahead of themselves. A lot of people are against critical race theory. I am personally all for laying out the facts. It isn't even complicated. What went down is what went down. The US is very into erasing its own history plus any other indigenous peoples history that happened to be here before the Mayflower. Just bulldoze it. Plow it under. I'm not certain what you are looking at concerning the US. A lot of us are looking at Canada like it's a better deal. The trouble with people "everyone having the right to see the world through their own eyes and acting accordingly" is they are really negatively impacting a lot of other people when they do it. Especially here. They actually DON'T have the right to "act accordingly". This loudness and outright ignorance I am seeing here on a daily basis. This lack of any intelligent dialogue and compromise for the good of all. It's non existent. I believe functional illiteracy has never been greater here. People's ignorance - WILLFUL ignorance - is at fever pitch here. They ask me "Well, aren't you PROUD to be an American?" Not really, no. I know how the thing was built. Nothing to be proud of there. Enslaving one race brutally and just as brutally decimating hundreds of others? Not proud, no. I didn't have any hand in it anyway, so.... I don't want to be associated with what's going on here these days. And just you wait for the next election cycle if you want to see chaos. This isn't a political thing I'm writing, now. This is a shapes of things to come thing I'm writing here. It's gonna get fugly. |
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| I think the only time I would go for an actor signing a book would be if it was the comic based on the movie/tv show with that actor rather than a show/movie based on a comic...i.e. I have my Star Trek #1 signed by the Big Shat!! but....I had him sign on his photo on the back - just seemed appropriate? | ||
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| @KatKomics That I would agree with. If the actor is on the cover, sure. But a high dollar book that an actor had nothing to so with is kinda weird to me. If it was a cheap book, sure. But an AF15 signed by Holland, is defacing the book in my opinion. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics That's exactly what I would have done. Plus Shatner has the decency not to charge so much that he prices himself out of range of his fans. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Interesting |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| So he will sign any books except those that would justify his hefty $150 price tag. It would seem that some people are allergic to making money. |
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| @Nuffsaid111 maybe someone told him something like when someone spoke to Starlin all those years ago. I'd get a actor to sign a book if the comic was based on the actor or the tv/movie he did An example that I don't have is having Bruce Campbell sign a Army of Darkness comic |
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| I think Simu Liu should sign the offensive books and only the offensive books. I think he should not charge. But the cost of the signature should be that you have to tear out any offending pages of the book in front of him and put them in the shredder. That would show how strongly he truly feels about the offensive content. And it would show how strongly his fans feel about his signature. | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| Just wait a few years and you will probably be able to get him to sign a menu from the Chop Suey Inn for $10. | ||
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Would the owner get a purple or green cgc label if an actor purposely tears out the pages? It's sort of like putting his "mark" on the book so I think it should be a yellow label But if the actor cuts out the value stamp, well we can't have that |
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| I remember when Stuart Sayger put a bullet hole in a Punisher sketch cover. He also tore part of the cover off when doing a Hulk sketch. Neither went over well with the owners or the cgc graders. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I'm thinking CGC would give a special "Simu Liu purged" label. Honestly, I think it would be an interesting version of the Soul Stone swap. "You can have my signature but you have to give up the thing of value that I'm writing it on". We would find out how dedicated fans really are to these folks. |
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