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Quote:Originally Posted by HeinzDad Looks like he was expressing it with them and they were ignoring it. He was sending emails during those 3 months. |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @zim0zum - If your comics were all submitted under the same submission number then your estimated TAT is based on the slowest tier. If they were all on separate submissions, then you have a legitimate complaint. But as you have not referenced your Submission number(s), seems like you may not have a leg to stand on. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator Since they were submitted directly to a rep wouldn't they have explained this at that time ? Just asking. I've never submitted via cons. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros My experience is that they absolutely would. But, you never know. Could have been busy. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler I wouldn't buy raw books from you unless there is an ironclad mechanism in place to be 100% reimbursed if I wasn't happy with my purchase. With third party grading, I don't have to trust the guy selling me the book as much. I only have to believe he'll ship it. Third party grading is providing a needed and appreciated service. |
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte I'd even go beyond that....some people might say, "you need them to even make a sale". I don't think I'd buy a raw book online anymore. I'll gladly pay more for the "no headache or aggravation" guarantee. At my age, that's worth alot! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC As I was reading his post, I was expecting a #VOTE4PEDRO at the end. |
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| Who is pedro? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Napoleon Dynamite movie reference. |
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| Ok. I don't get out much apparently.... | ||
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros @etapi65 - not necessarily. And even if they do mention it, doesn’t mean that a submitter is either A) going to grasp what is being said, B) not going to still submit with the hopes that they whole submission moves at the faster tier, C) conveniently forgets being told in the first place after TAT remorse sets in. Additionally, there is also the possibility that a submitter brings a pre-filled online submission to the convention drop off…as I have done. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Pedro was Napoleon's immigrant friend who ran for class president. When no one likes either choice being offered the phrase, Vote for Pedro, is sometimes used as a way to express dissatisfaction with A and B and as a rally cry to chose C. |
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 We should have the forum rate our packages.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatsonWe need to catch @Bronte a delicious bass. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by OGJackster That doesn't seem accurate. It looks like it's much quicker than that. 122 days is about 23 weeks or so which is about 10 weeks quicker than CBCS.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC @GAC I'm impressed that you even took the time to respond to that nonsense. You're a bigger man than me. It would be hard to estimate the amount of value that Third Party Grading has added to this hobby. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Top dollar. That's all anyone ever considers now. Collectors could redefine the hobby. Collectors have allowed a VENDOR to define their hobby for them. And that's all anyone can think about. Money. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler Sure it is, especially if you're in the selling business. I don't go into work thinking, "How can I be altruistic today at the expense of my pocket book." I wouldn't expect a seller of comic books to do that either. Additionally, if you ever get the opportunity to work behind a booth at a show, you would see that ungraded books far out sell graded books. |
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| @ticktocktyler Yes. My motivations are money based. And your point is? You are a purist collector and deserve more clout and recognition because you collect for the love of it? In the end you are in it fircyour own selfish pleasure. That's what collecting is. Your motivation might be slightly different but what if I told you I am concerned about money because I can't work and need to put food on the table for my family? I'm thinking that trumps collecting for vanity and just to have a nice collection. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC And that service is well on its way to wrecking the hobby. I SHOULD qualify that word. Hobby. It's no longer a hobby to a lot of people. It's a business. And so everyone trusts the grading company above all else. Losing orders. Refusing to reimburse for losses or damages. Possible theft of valuable books by employees of said grading companies. Where does everyone think this is heading? People sending in books like for example AF 15 and getting a book back that they are convinced was NOT the book they sent in. Ambiguous, ever changing grading standards. The companies are huge now. And they don't answer to their customers anymore. They have gotten big enough where they don't actually NEED us anymore. It's a paradox. It's a pickle because on the other side are the valid points you made. How do you trust people? And by the same token, would sellers trust US to pay them when we received our purchase in the mail? How honest are WE? It all revolves around money. It's a hobby that used to be fun. Now, it's become tedious and suspicious. And not a little bit crooked. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler Absolutely. If I'm going to spend money on a key, I'm going to want to get that money back plus more. I'm not sure if it's the vendors that defining the hobby over the collectors since collectors seems to be driving up the prices on a lot of books. |
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| In the world of fine art we have layers of provenance, analytical authentication and… leaps of faith. Many have still been duped. In the world of comics provenance is generally difficult to ascertain (though we have pedigrees). Forgery is less a risk but if paying big $ for rare issues I would generally want to know what I’m getting. In terms of the modern explosion of 9.8s vs 9.6s amounting to multiples of value, or somehow justifying absurd amounts for not-so-rare books (eg AF15 record setting auction); fools and their money yada yada yada… I wouldn’t concern myself too much with how others engage in any hobby. If priced out and a fad, you will be priced back in, eventually. I believe reputable services like CGC and CBCS have helped mature the investing side of this collecting hobby. That can be a positive or negative depending on who you ask. One thing that is certain is that they have (likely unintentionally) driven the preservation of these books for future generations. That which is valued highly (monetarily) tends to be preserved, even when there are costs to preservation. Quote: Originally Posted by ticktocktyler |
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| Anecdotes aren’t evidence either. Volumes increase, capacities are stretched, mistakes happen. Comics were always a business. Collecting physical items may be a hobby but always has a cost, and value. Car collectors buying six figure sports cars lament that billionaires are driving up prices to be unaffordable - to millionaires. Rolex collectors lament crypto kids driving up their already luxury items. Cry me a river. |
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GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler You seem to hate 3rd party graders and the hobby....you choose odd places to spend your time. Maybe the problem is you because I loved this hobby before 3rd party graders and guess what? I still love this hobby now. |
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| I like to have my hobby pay for itself. There is nothing wrong with getting some books graded that I feel will benefit from it. Besides that I was actually bagging, boarding and pricing some new and old stock this evening for a show that I am setting up at next month. I found it very relaxing and enjoyable. I think the bottom line is to buy what you like, either it be raw books, slabbed books,or sending them in and the enjoyment of unboxing them when they come back. | ||
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 I have not set up at a con since 2029.
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Quote:Originally Posted by ticktocktyler If selling books, you kinda do need CGC / CBCS. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Doesn't add up to me. A 2 day modern and a quickstream are 2-4 week TAT books. Not 6 months. And if they somehow did take 6 months, I find it very hard to believe that CBCS would effectively tell a customer to kick rocks, when asked to be refunded what amounts to overcharges. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I am so much more deeply involved in this hobby now than I ever would have been without 3rd party grading. I think many of us, if we think about it, have 5x-10x money into this hobby vs. where we would be without 3PG. The idea of being able to sell quickly, globally, without subjective grading concerns is very inspiring. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by figment Providing good Customer Service is possibly the most important aspect of maintaining a successful business model. It can make or break a brand. Nobody has perfect CS, but a bad reputation and/or consistently-poor experiences can hurt you more than the quality of your goods/services. |
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| so i guess bottom line is - dont submit books for grading if you were just diagnosed with a terminal disease. | ||
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| Im in the middle and I've been clear with previous posts. I grade purely for money; not for love of comics. Love of comics went out the door a long time ago when marvel and dc stories became a soap opera and with the advent of amalgam, distorted, b.s. new characters. I won't even go into the dismay of "it's all about the cover" (sigh). I saw the exponential returns with simply putting a book in plastic with a number and I ran with it. In a private moment, I support it for bronze, silver, gold; but feel its a ponzi scheme for moderns. I have no love for graded comics. It's just a means to end. |
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