Own Action Comics #1 number 1.17086
 Where's his Bat-package?
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Quote:Originally Posted by SidTheSquid Easily the most drastic trim I have ever seen. Epic.  |
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| ahahaha..ridiculous.. | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Yes, it would be interesting to know the details behind this certification. And if it was PGX I would be skeptical. But there simply couldn't be enough money in it for CGC to risk their reputation certifying something made of paper could be scientifically proven to not be from the same date range. What could they gain, $100? $1,000? While it's possible, it's extremely implausible. |
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| @EbayMafia yes, my concern is far more along the lines of the authentication vs the absurdity. I agree CGC is not motivated to skimp on the process. I cannot help but think the chance of error here is much higher. More akin to Beckett signature authentication than typical “book” authentication. Some people collect fossilized dino turds. Others collect sub-variants of already unimportant characters in unimportant books. Others books that are somehow both common and incredibly expensive. This is the equivalent of a dino turd but a very special one… perhaps verified to belong to Sue. |
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| Thought experiment. If you owned this fragment and knew its provenance as authentic but had no interest in collecting and wanted some cash, what would you do? Example, gramps made comic collages with the issue numbers. Or perhaps gramps moonlighted as the Riddler. In either case, he had comics and cut out numbers. Maybe he had the originals too… leave that aside for a moment. Now you find yourself with these numbers and a market where an important but rather common book (AF15) somehow got sold for nearly $4m because of some silly grade attached to it. Do you a) throw this fragment away or b) sell it? If b) where do you go to validate authenticity prior to sale? Hmmmm… I wonder… Set the buyer angle aside because vast, vast majority of the world’s population will ridicule anyone paying more than $100 for a comic book (other than perhaps something as rare and historic as AC1, but I digress). I hope thinking through the actual likely steps for this to get graded illuminates how rational it all is and how the criticisms themselves are hypocritical. Likelihood of someone chopping up an intact AC1 cover is vanishingly low because there are known coverless copies that could have their values enhanced… Finally, if someone had the original (coverless or with damaged cover) and this #1 cut out they have a few options IF they still hold both. Restore the book: Place the 1 back on (and destroy value in their original). Not a rational option. Leave the piece of paper separate, then: 1.) Sell the 1 alongside the copy. 2.) Sell the 1 separately as here. The first option might see less value attached to the 1 (or more) but hard to know. |
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| I wonder if I could marry it to my AC #1 sleeping bag reprint? | ||
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 I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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| I thought bidding on just the cover or a single page was weird...but a small part? what did the guy do? Go to them with that tiny piece of paper and say...I want it slabbed? or take scissors to an really damaged copy and cut it out? | ||
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 Suck it up, buttercup!!
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| Soooo.... If I buy this #1 and marry it to a reprint...could I get a 9.8 restored (1938)??? Willing to bet CGC would be 100% ok with that type of thing (I mean....after "invisible" comics what WON'T they do??) |
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| I don't know who needs to read this but for everything I hold dear, please please CBCS don't ever do something like this... | ||
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Where's his Bat-package?
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Quote:Originally Posted by bennyb86 I second this request. |
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 Captain Accident
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| They should slab and grade Jack Kirby's ear wax next. Or maybe his shoelaces... | ||
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by the420bandito It's funny you should mention that. I was explaining this to the lady who works as my receptionist. I told her how the last graded Action #1 sold for three million and something and how it was the first appearance of Superman. She understood all that. I then began to explain how just the ten cent portion of the cover was encapsulated and posted for sale. Now, she is familiar with graded books as she has seen some of the purchases that are delivered to the office. She'll ask me to open the box and let her see what I have added to my collection. She appreciates the cover art. So, she isn't completely in the dark as to what is being described and discussed. Her exact words were, "That is the dumbest thing I have ever heard. That's like buying a piece of toast that Elvis Presley has taken a bite out of." I laughed and thought she just hit the nail squarely on the head. |
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Suck it up, buttercup!!
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| I'm starting to re-think this....I think it's ok People buy a tiny fragment of a 'game worn' jersey that's part of a trading card - this is the same thing yes?? The real question is...what is the next A) comic they could do this to or B) piece of the cover will they do?? I mean "No 1" is ok...but wouldn't you rather have the "S" chestplate piece or Supes head..what about the fleck of sweat from the guy running away??? Screw the "No 1" - I'm saving my money for one of those pieces!!!! |
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| Bad analogies. More akin to a fragment of manuscript by Da Vinci. Worthless on its own, no conveyance of independent meaning but valued for sake of tangible representation of something rare, revered and historically relevant. But go on, keep collecting equally or more pointless stuff (and far more common) and hypocritically dismiss what others collect. Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I don't think it's the same thing. If they were buying an AC1 reprint that came with a piece of the real book then that's more like the same. This is like someone buying just the fragment of game worn jersey. |
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Suck it up, buttercup!!
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I like it!!! - CBCS - we have a winner!!! fragments of key books sealed somehow with a reprint of the book!!!! - OH!!!!! SPECIALTY LABEL!!! special label with a piece of AC1 sealed and slabbed with a reprint of AC1 Holy sh!t - why are we not getting paid for these ideas - keep the date stamp everyone - when CGC starts this we'll need it for the lawsuit!!! |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| I think this is crazy but if you are going to buy a piece of a book, this is the book to buy the piece of. Consider this identical situation but swap out AC1 with Incredible Hulk 181. |
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Suck it up, buttercup!!
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC AF15 is a good candidate! TEC27?? |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics I chose IH181 as it's a "big-ish" book but makes even less sense in this situation....a slabbed #181. Tec 27, AF15 still makes no sense to me...but as they say "one persons trash is another's treasure". |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Incidentally, the AC1 #1 is up to $3100. | ||
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| The bid is already more than $3,000. Action # 1 Link |
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| All of a sudden it looks like the $1500 I bought for a page to be a great deal | ||
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 I blame the forum gremlins.
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| I have a bunch of Action #1 staples around here somewhere. I'm gonna be RICH!!! | ||
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Captain Accident
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| that's going to be a lot of leaf casting... | ||
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 Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill.
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Some moron paid $410 for these shavings 🤦♂️ |
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Where's his Bat-package?
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| @HexView Not even slabbed, even though I'm pretty sure The Other Guy would do it, given the track record. | ||
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| Sold for over $7k. Nothing nefarious about seller / source. No intentional hacking up an AC1 for parting it out (not like it would make sense). Provenance is verifiable too. Looks like the hacking was done more or less contemporaneous to publication period. I likely would have preferred the homemade bound copies… creative kids. From the prior Heritage Auction description: Superman Homemade Golden Age Stories Bound Volumes (DC, 1938-40) Condition: Average VG. Who hasn't heard stories of kids cutting up their comic for amusement. How about the first couple of years of Superman? These five home-made bound volumes used pieces cut from the covers of Action Comics #1, 17, 19, Superman #2 and 6 and glued them to construction paper covers. Stories included are from Action Comics #7-13, 15-21, World's Fair 1939, Superman #1, 2, 3 (three stories), and 4 (three stories). Paper is supple with a few tears. There are no complete comics as these are just the Superman stories cut from the original issues. A couple of pages are glued back-to-back. For a complete rundown on which stories are collected in what "issue", see our website. |
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| Here's the sold listing for the bound volumes this #1 was apparently taken from: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superman-homemade-golden-age-stories-bound-volumes-dc-1938-40-condition-average-vg-total-5-items-/a/7073-91227.s?ic4=OtherResults-SampleItem-071515&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417 | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by KCBatmanFan Thanks. That fills in some of the unknown. Creative use of increasing profit potential. |
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Suck it up, buttercup!!
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Quote:Originally Posted by KCBatmanFan That is much more cool than just a silly old 'No.1' in a slab |
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