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Own Action Comics #1 number 1.17086

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I hate this hobby so much
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
Love my hobby. Hate a few knuckleheads.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Don't hate the hobby. Hate the moronic nincompoops.
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Happy days
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
*yawn*
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A fool and his money make new micro variant.
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We can be a cynical bunch sometimes. I would pay something to own that. Not sure what, but maybe $100 or more? I imagine just about everyone here would pay some amount. And if we would pay some amount, it stands to reason that there are people out there who want it and can easily afford 50x or 100x of whatever we would pay.
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I bet it was tough to press.
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We all spend $ on things many/most/99% of the world’s population would view as some combo of dumb and wasteful.

I think at $1,000 this #1 No. 1 is hilarious… but closer to being worth that (to me) than a huge selection of trash (to me) that people are willing to pay a lot more for.

I still wouldn’t buy it. More because connection to the book is too fractional (pun intended, despite it being an integer) and the novelty/gag-joke bit will likely get old quick… but in 100 years it will probably hold more interest than the 50,000th copy of <insert common but expensive key of choice here>.
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Originally Posted by EbayMafia
We can be a cynical bunch sometimes. I would pay something to own that. Not sure what, but maybe $100 or more? I imagine just about everyone here would pay some amount. And if we would pay some amount, it stands to reason that there are people out there who want it and can easily afford 50x or 100x of whatever we would pay.

I would hope that if I was faced with such an opportunity, common sense would prevail. If I were going to spend $100 on something relatively the size of a postage stamp, it would be an actual postage stamp. I would much rather have that hanging on my wall as something that reduces comic book collecting to almost the lowest common denominator. I said almost, because the lowest of the low was the "graded" invisible comic books.
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I bet it was tough to press.

They probably just licked it.
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Ima' stealing this....
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Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it! IronMan private msg quote post Address this user
Not quite as dumb as fractional shares being peddled. At least you own...something.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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That label shouldn’t be blue, it should be green for incomplete. The grader’s note should be something along the line of: affect story.


Lol..

All pages missing. Affects story.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
what would the qualified grade be?
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
I kinda wish I could come up with a more elaborate response,.. as many of you have done already, but *yawn* seems to be the best I can do.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
@Pre_Coder You are older, so it's appropriate.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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@DrWatson why? The most fundamental service CGC/CBCS provides is authentication.

If they are the experts, why would they not authenticate something like this?

Same would be done for a fragment of a historic work of art. An AC1, even a fragment like this, is historically important.
I agree with you but I think DrWatson’s
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That shouldn't have even been graded.


Was more of a “what’s the point?”


I agree with DrWatson as well. Why? What is being preserved? If I had the spare money; I certainly wouldn’t spend it on a small rectangle. A cover page tattered, complete or a larger piece with at least some artwork to enjoy would be a worthwhile investment and possibly fulfilling in some way for the submitter and/or buyer. With those clean edges I also wonder; “ was a cover mutilated and we’ll see more pieces as they go up for sale?!”. To each there own and least it was “authenticated” I guess.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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what would the qualified grade be?
aside from the entirety of the book missing; it’s an easy 9.8

Edit: I see the color break; maybe 9.4-9.6
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If I owned it, I would display it. And it would generate more interest and conversation than any other comic related item I have in my collection.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@EbayMafia

True, but how much of that interest would be judging your sanity and possible mental illness concerns?
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Marginally better than the dime bag of Action Comics #1 shavings that went up a little while back


That actually made a tiny bit of sense if you owned an Action 1 missing a staple and wanted to use it as a kinda original replacement. I don’t think they should be grading single pages even but I guess some people like it.
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@EbayMafia

True, but how much of that interest would be judging your sanity and possible mental illness concerns?


I would take this tiny but meaningful piece of the most significant comic book ever made over a 9.8 copy of the first appearance of Riri Williams or some other modern replacement character. But I'm crazy like that, lol.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
That's kinda assuming that they verified that was legitimately a part of the original book and not a xerox or another book entirely. But if that's what floats your boat so be it. Personally I'd take Riri. I may not like her, but she would pay the month's bills....
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Originally Posted by JustThatGuy
That label shouldn’t be blue, it should be green for incomplete. The grader’s note should be something along the line of: affect story.


Should actually be Purple for restored- as it's trimmed. I have a Tec #38 single page and it has a purple label for trimmed edges.
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Originally Posted by JustThatGuy
That label shouldn’t be blue, it should be green for incomplete. The grader’s note should be something along the line of: affect story.


Should actually be Purple for restored- as it's trimmed. I have a Tec #38 single page and it has a purple label for trimmed edges.

Easily the most drastic trim I have ever seen. Epic.
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ahahaha..ridiculous..
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That's kinda assuming that they verified that was legitimately a part of the original book and not a xerox or another book entirely


Yes, it would be interesting to know the details behind this certification. And if it was PGX I would be skeptical. But there simply couldn't be enough money in it for CGC to risk their reputation certifying something made of paper could be scientifically proven to not be from the same date range. What could they gain, $100? $1,000? While it's possible, it's extremely implausible.
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@EbayMafia yes, my concern is far more along the lines of the authentication vs the absurdity. I agree CGC is not motivated to skimp on the process. I cannot help but think the chance of error here is much higher. More akin to Beckett signature authentication than typical “book” authentication.

Some people collect fossilized dino turds. Others collect sub-variants of already unimportant characters in unimportant books. Others books that are somehow both common and incredibly expensive.

This is the equivalent of a dino turd but a very special one… perhaps verified to belong to Sue.
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Thought experiment. If you owned this fragment and knew its provenance as authentic but had no interest in collecting and wanted some cash, what would you do?

Example, gramps made comic collages with the issue numbers. Or perhaps gramps moonlighted as the Riddler. In either case, he had comics and cut out numbers. Maybe he had the originals too… leave that aside for a moment.

Now you find yourself with these numbers and a market where an important but rather common book (AF15) somehow got sold for nearly $4m because of some silly grade attached to it.

Do you a) throw this fragment away or b) sell it? If b) where do you go to validate authenticity prior to sale? Hmmmm… I wonder…

Set the buyer angle aside because vast, vast majority of the world’s population will ridicule anyone paying more than $100 for a comic book (other than perhaps something as rare and historic as AC1, but I digress).

I hope thinking through the actual likely steps for this to get graded illuminates how rational it all is and how the criticisms themselves are hypocritical.

Likelihood of someone chopping up an intact AC1 cover is vanishingly low because there are known coverless copies that could have their values enhanced…

Finally, if someone had the original (coverless or with damaged cover) and this #1 cut out they have a few options IF they still hold both.

Restore the book:
Place the 1 back on (and destroy value in their original). Not a rational option.

Leave the piece of paper separate, then:
1.) Sell the 1 alongside the copy.
2.) Sell the 1 separately as here.

The first option might see less value attached to the 1 (or more) but hard to know.
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