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Yeah...Keep buying pgx books....DOH!17047

The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
Just hit my grading desk.
Came in in the pgx holder for possible press and for grading.
We did not press, too fragile.
Graded by pgx unrestored 7.0 white pages. I could see the color touch through the holder!
CBCS grade: 5.5 RESTORED Off-White to White pages.
Here's the photos:


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I have a problem with fattening women up. Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Hmm.... dies post get deleted fir showing pgx? Lol
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Collector Happyfacecomics private msg quote post Address this user
Ouch - man I’m glad I’m not the submitter on that one , probably lost a bit of $$$.
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The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
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Hmm.... dies post get deleted fir showing pgx? Lol


It's not in the case LOL!
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Collector xvipah private msg quote post Address this user
Is the Stan Lee sig at least verified?
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HAmistoso private msg quote post Address this user
At least it's not invisible...
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
It presents nicely for a 5.5 but no way is it a 7.0! What a disappointment for the submitter. Of course, I'd take that X-Men #1 in a heartbeat!
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry. Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user
It's a good looking book,wouldn't kick it out of bed. Any chance of removing the ct? water stains really kills the grade
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Collector TellEmSteveDave private msg quote post Address this user
Where is the color touch?
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-Our Odin-
Rest in Peace
Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
The real question is ... did the signature pass?
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
What a hunk of sh!t. You were generous with a 5.5, more of a 4.5 to me.
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The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
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The real question is ... did the signature pass?


Yes, luckily
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The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
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Where is the color touch?
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Where is the color touch?


You can see it top right and bottom left
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Collector TellEmSteveDave private msg quote post Address this user
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Where is the color touch?
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Originally Posted by TellEmSteveDave
Where is the color touch?


You can see it top right and bot left


Wow the top left……that looks lousy!
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Collector Haljordanfan private msg quote post Address this user
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What a hunk of sh!t. You were generous with a 5.5, more of a 4.5 to me.


😂
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Collector andy49 private msg quote post Address this user
but at least the inside was actually x-men #1, right?
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Collector Paulbg2000 private msg quote post Address this user
Color Touch Starter Kit...


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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I have some sketch covers where the artist used White Out. Does that count as restoration?
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
PGX is as good as raw....that literally means PGX has zero value.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
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Hmm.... dies post get deleted fir showing pgx? Lol


It's not in the case LOL!
@sborock - LOL, just saw the post, @Bronte beat me to it.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
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I have some sketch covers where the artist used White Out. Does that count as restoration?


No. It's a sketch cover. And could even be considered part of the art.
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It gets old smelling it everytime I go outside my door. Nearmint67 private msg quote post Address this user
@sborock The big ol' stain and the foxing knocks it out of 7.0 range all by it's self.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Ouch - man I’m glad I’m not the submitter on that one , probably lost a bit of $$$.


But at least now he knows exactly what he has. Thanks to CBCS.
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Hmm... Moderated again! figment private msg quote post Address this user
I've resubmitted three PGX books in the last few years, two to Sarasota and one to CBCS. They've all come back between one and three points lower than the original PGX grade. It's about what I expected, nobody should really be surprised.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
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Hmm.... dies post get deleted fir showing pgx? Lol


It's not in the case LOL!
@sborock - LOL, just saw the post, @Bronte beat me to it.


#loopholes
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Captain Accident the420bandito private msg quote post Address this user
Lol PGX grades like I do...not very well.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
@sborock to be fair - this from the period (2013) where I would not buy from as there are so many cases of restored books not being identified. I do feel though that they have upped their game in last couple of years
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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@sborock to be fair - this from the period (2013) where I would not buy from as there are so many cases of restored books not being identified. I do feel though that they have upped their game in past couple of years


@poka In the years before CBCS I used PGX quite a bit as an alternative to CGC. But I got a bad feeling about their integrity, probably around the 2012 period that you mention. I will buy some PGX slabbed books from their earliest years but I would never submit now based on the tarnished reputation. A couple of sincere questions: would you say that their rough period was a result of corruption...or just ineptness? Also, what has changed internally there to help restore your confidence? Is there a different head grader? Different ownership?
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@sborock to be fair - this from the period (2013) where I would not buy from as there are so many cases of restored books not being identified. I do feel though that they have upped their game in past couple of years


@poka In the years before CBCS I used PGX quite a bit as an alternative to CGC. But I got a bad feeling about their integrity, probably around the 2012 period that you mention. I will buy some PGX slabbed books from their earliest years but I would never submit now based on the tarnished reputation. A couple of sincere questions: would you say that their rough period was a result of corruption...or just ineptness? Also, what has changed internally there to help restore your confidence? Is there a different head grader? Different ownership?


Honestly - I don't know - there are plenty of stories on the web that certain people were able to submit restored books and get them graded without the restoration was disclosed.

I have never submitted to PGX but I do find that the grades from the last couple of years are a lot closer to CGC/CBCS than it used to be and I don't hear the same horror stories about restorations either.

Would I submit to PGX - no
would I buy PGX - yes if from recent years and at a 1-2 grade discount
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Collector Happyfacecomics private msg quote post Address this user
Wow- do I get to ship my slab back for two obvious errors?

Marvel Premiere ##15

and no 1St Appearance information?

What do you guys think ?


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