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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Ginosdad honestly, any of these books are big money. I don’t take spending $100 on a comic lightly. Then again, I check the $ per unit volume cost of different cans of beans and tomatoes. I can do it quickly, or else I’d be worried about the value of my time wasted lol. |
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| I will maintain that Giant size x men 1 will ride much higher with many key factors that help its gains. It is prestige ( Believe that is the term) bound and the spine accumulates creasing rapidly and a press can fix some of that, but its more tricky and not as easily fixed with this book. Factor in a white cover, which is quick to show every little spot, smear and rub, similar to black. The book was a new title essentially and many just passed right over it thinking it was reprints or not aware it had even come out. The CGC census lists around 12 copies for it vs IH 181 with over 14k copies on hand. The introductions of key characters on such a diverse scale in one issue makes the book desirable to many groups....you have Storm who is a princess from Kenya, Colossus hails from Russia, Nightcrawler from Bavaria, and finally Thunderbird, an Native American. Another intro that goes unnoticed is the first appearance of Illana Rasputin, Colossus' sister, who would of course later become the character Magik. Also the 2nd full appearance of Wolverine. Factor in some stunning cover art by Kane and Cockrum, and the book also was inked by Cockrum, and then writing by both Claremont and Len Wein and it makes for a monster of a book . If IH 181 climbs higher so will this one....but if and when we get a glimpse of what members the new x men cinematice team will use especially if they were to utilize most or all of them and that will drive the book upwards as well I do believe Marvel will soon begin a project that will allow them to again sidestep the rules about releasing Hulk movies and use that movie to slip Wolverine into continuity. I think that will be a catalyst for IH 181 and it will move higher once more. I had always pumped the Giant size as the better choice, and the video the guy on youtube somewhat supports that , but I think the dynamics are now shifting and 181 has a great chance moving forward. Gold would scare me right now with world events and etc. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by capnfatz Due to monetary needs forced on me by the pandemic I had to sell my IH181 and I regret it terribly, as do I regret not having it cleaned and pressed first but time was of the essence I suppose. If I'd had another 2 months or so to play with I would have re-thunk it. But life comes first and I had that copy bought for cover price for 40+ years and we needed the money very badly. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I'd take a 9.6/9.8 hulk 181 or a 9.6/9.8 giant size x-men well over gold right now unquestionably. | ||
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| @Ginosdad no doubt... maybe its as simple as a particular book is something we very much like and want to own, and hopefully we can buy it w/o compromising financial security... at least that's how i ultimately "justify" my grail hunting... the sad thing is that the top books are all moving beyond where most people can do that. I'm watching the current comiclink auction for a 7.5 Marvel Mystery 4 (3rd highest graded of 31 TOTAL)... currently at close to $50k, and wondering if i'll ever be able to consider buying a book like that at that $$$. Then i contrast that to a Hulk 181 9.8, of which there are ~150, with a current bid over $70k and think the world is bonkers. |
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| @dfoster43 hope the troubled waters are behind you and yours at this point... brutal to have to sell anything we don't want to... if my fellow doomsayers are right just enough, maybe you'll buy it back for less then you sold it!  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by capnfatz Well thank you very much, you are very nice to say so, I appreciate it. Not out of the woods yet I'm afraid. But still vertical and taking nourishment, metabolizing oxygen, so cannot complain  Yes I thought long and hard before deciding to try to sell it. It was my only major key. I've got some minors and if you add up all my other stuff and I sold it all at a premium I'd be much closer to being out of the woods but I don't see that happening any time soon. It takes time and money to do it right and I don't have much of either I'm afraid. I lost so many good books (among other things) in Katrina so the fact I still had some long boxes was a minor miracle. My next move, now that we have situated a place to live, is to catalog what I do have left and figure out a plan to divest it all in the right order and method that will get me the most return. Whether that means selling some lowball but fast and holding onto some in hopes of making more later I don't know. One thing I don't regret is coming here to CBCS to slab that 181 (done in RECORD TAT, 3 weeks I think? 4 maybe? It was fast) and to meet all of you people. CBCS is my social network of choice, truth be told Although I wish it had more cat videos.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dfoster43 For sure, seems like a spirited collection of goodnatured collectors... I myself am fine with the current level of cat videos on the site. Man, you've had quite the run of it. More power to you on cataloguing, and i hope you can somehow find the time to spare. I'm going through and alphabetizing a bunch of long boxes of mostly bronze/modern stuff I started accumulating as a kid in the late 80s/90s on my allowance and the occasional cash injection from manual labor for the neighbors (I got $10/wk allowance, but my Mom would also help me out if i pulled a few too many from the half cover price bins!). No potential NM+ biggies, but some nice books here and there, and A LOT of random comics that will land in 25/50 cent bins I'd think It is taking a while to do that, mostly because i get caught up looking over the covers and occasionally taking one out to ... GASP!... actually read. And I'm not even cataloguing yet. I have no idea how i'll eventually sell them off. considering grouping runs or partial runs together and just listing them as BIN on eBay for cover price... or maybe just donating sets to youth programs in the area. Comics helped me catch up multiple grade levels on reading skills back then, maybe the same books can pique another kids interest again, 30+ years later... probably not, but you never know. |
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| I'm gonna make a knee-jerk prediction here without fleshing it out completely. The news that is on my TV right now regarding Ukraine is the start of several international events this year that will increase interest in Gold/Silver and decrease desire for comic books as a store of value. I actually hope to be wrong about this, but we can check back in 3 and 6 months. | ||
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 I have a problem with fattening women up.
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| Don't know squat about how gold and silver is affected by war, but man I wish we could all get along.... not like we as a world don't have other things to worry about.... | ||
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte WORD |
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| Yes, gold is a safe haven asset and its value increases during globally-impactful war. How high it will go and for how long are the big questions. To me it is still pricing-in only transitory inflation and a modest conflict. I won’t go into what a modest conflict means. In any event, the value of IH181 is trivial compared to the very real impact that any war will have on people in that region (and potentially beyond). Quote: Originally Posted by EbayMafia |
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| Here ya go. Have your cake and eat it too: https://www.jmbullion.com/2018-1-4-oz-canadian-gold-wolverine-reverse-proof-coin/ |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Canadian coins make me wish the US mint would step their game up on the creativity front. We're overly protective of who/what ends up on a coin. The New Zealand Mint is another with SPECTACULAR coins. Star Wars Lord of the rings Pretty sure all Fiji coins are made at the Canadian mint Black panther US mint started tinkering around a bit with some curved commemoratives like baseball and just last year did their first colorized with a basketball coin. |
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| In fairness, in much of Canada wolverines are similar to dogs and cats as pets. It’s why Canadians rarely keep handguns in their homes. I still remember mine growing up, Lil Logan. He looked fierce but was all bluff, no bite.  Edit: here he was just a little annoyed I ate all the jerky. |
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