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Batman 500, what's the difference?16940

I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd
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The silver title book looks like a normal Direct #500. The white one just looks like it skipped the silver ink step - no silver ink on BATMAN, not on 500, not on KNIGHTFALL, not on 19, but should be.

This exactly. If that cover really is white - not just a trick of the light - than it is likely an error cover where the foil was never applied.


You might be right but I just looked on ebay and found one with the exact same characteristics as my white-lettered Batman 500, including the orange/red stripe. below is the ebay link.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/362955217143?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5481d118f7:g:xV0AAOSwS~FaUMuG&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsS5%252FLJbfonbQUYd49AU1AJY%252Fp65oSGcmCwQwCWl%252BCEz6plbAUxgeyqIp1E84eYCgVs1BgK8pTHrg3lyrPMOpSTxEvTpyLm3Gnrn1WV90FvfHrsSDRR7SdZv3X9QrbaAsfR28Ng1rkbTRh6RfX2oxyLHTkreaHxukSusJgZQLiLsX5crSAdB9YwldDCKet6Aq7PFtfj4FlR40cSUWnV%252BHazLPvHRZjGFj1NYGJG8lGAK37AOmnDJrbTD5pMtYIs0GLZn4th2J2Z2q3qotc1J8a55EaHPbh9ZYtNHmsR5%252FcBKUkPocqKk58WSnl5vFj1wqQ0%252B%252F3Cx8pAt5zEslJKQBpqX8Va8bTlfMKLhbWZq4QPYMMEU%252Bup7OwB5CTtrS8GKWTvM%252FwrrxvNUfIKJANimvuT5POGgEkpm3Z2NkyAhZ36v%252BfFZT0qSWdUcPG9skPGqNX6mu%252F67eyhokfbZJKmpxSAUlfBiTe4U9lcpzQXBZlWvskZdrNp9orJiehQcbl9QRvT0b79Em1WUWAoQ%252BdAy0Ev65FnOOx8HOLLxyr7UwSH1eTEXZexRjXo%252BqVqXskjuoxOM92QUxmLaJJby9RnxdSVR28im1SweLTY96ZMP9UOhPK5XJHTYLwQfKYrYfAMWK8NPKhpaRw1j8d0v%252BgBQYxUw%252BVm16Upp2t4vSrfjEz%252FDuh9qSiH6qJAlwg11VFU86I8vZUdxEAdsYqpRjB%252BtW2JRM45ayGDDdGDDIz1wo3oNeldlAhsgg7HZy02e4IWoUKYDBkk0YbLO4frQbRTXPluixMOF5Eqgn7YMxNCpeJQsLFrwldnXu5gWyYU6ecMher4%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBMnImt7-Ff


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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by chester15
The silver title book looks like a normal Direct #500. The white one just looks like it skipped the silver ink step - no silver ink on BATMAN, not on 500, not on KNIGHTFALL, not on 19, but should be.

This exactly. If that cover really is white - not just a trick of the light - than it is likely an error cover where the foil was never applied.


You might be right but I just looked on ebay and found one with the exact same characteristics as my white-lettered Batman 500, including the orange/red stripe. below is the ebay link.



https://www.ebay.com/itm/362955217143?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item5481d118f7:g:xV0AAOSwS~FaUMuG&amdata=enc%3AAQAGAAACkPYe5NmHp%252B2JMhMi7yxGiTJkPrKr5t53CooMSQt2orsS5%252FLJbfonbQUYd49AU1AJY%252Fp65oSGcmCwQwCWl%252BCEz6plbAUxgeyqIp1E84eYCgVs1BgK8pTHrg3lyrPMOpSTxEvTpyLm3Gnrn1WV90FvfHrsSDRR7SdZv3X9QrbaAsfR28Ng1rkbTRh6RfX2oxyLHTkreaHxukSusJgZQLiLsX5crSAdB9YwldDCKet6Aq7PFtfj4FlR40cSUWnV%252BHazLPvHRZjGFj1NYGJG8lGAK37AOmnDJrbTD5pMtYIs0GLZn4th2J2Z2q3qotc1J8a55EaHPbh9ZYtNHmsR5%252FcBKUkPocqKk58WSnl5vFj1wqQ0%252B%252F3Cx8pAt5zEslJKQBpqX8Va8bTlfMKLhbWZq4QPYMMEU%252Bup7OwB5CTtrS8GKWTvM%252FwrrxvNUfIKJANimvuT5POGgEkpm3Z2NkyAhZ36v%252BfFZT0qSWdUcPG9skPGqNX6mu%252F67eyhokfbZJKmpxSAUlfBiTe4U9lcpzQXBZlWvskZdrNp9orJiehQcbl9QRvT0b79Em1WUWAoQ%252BdAy0Ev65FnOOx8HOLLxyr7UwSH1eTEXZexRjXo%252BqVqXskjuoxOM92QUxmLaJJby9RnxdSVR28im1SweLTY96ZMP9UOhPK5XJHTYLwQfKYrYfAMWK8NPKhpaRw1j8d0v%252BgBQYxUw%252BVm16Upp2t4vSrfjEz%252FDuh9qSiH6qJAlwg11VFU86I8vZUdxEAdsYqpRjB%252BtW2JRM45ayGDDdGDDIz1wo3oNeldlAhsgg7HZy02e4IWoUKYDBkk0YbLO4frQbRTXPluixMOF5Eqgn7YMxNCpeJQsLFrwldnXu5gWyYU6ecMher4%7Cclp%3A2334524%7Ctkp%3ABFBMnImt7-Ff



Interesting because the listing clearly states that the book has a foil cover, but it sure doesn't look like it. Either the lighting is making the foil look odd, or the listing is incorrect. Weird.
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
Curiouser and curiouser.
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Collector TellEmSteveDave private msg quote post Address this user
Is the white cover foil?
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
I'm going to take a closer look, maybe the batman? I'm not sure. with luck, I will post this weekend and try and get to the bottom of this.
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Collector Belarak private msg quote post Address this user
I did a search on eBay and it looks like there are several white copies.

Here's two:







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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
@Belarak That top copy looks foiled. The bottom copy does not.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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Is the white cover foil?

That's my question. If you get light and angle just right, you can make foil look pretty white, but this is a little extreme. Very curious to see if the cover really is missing the foil.
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
Look at my first 2 pictures, the 500 on the one is clearly silver and white on the other. but I will find them and take pictures of them together.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
It looks like, if there is a difference, that Batman, Kinghtfall, and 500 are foiled on one copy and not on the other.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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It looks like, if there is a difference, that Batman, Kinghtfall, and 500 are foiled on one copy and not on the other.

Exactly.
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Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill. HexView private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Byrdibyrd
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Originally Posted by chester15
The silver title book looks like a normal Direct #500. The white one just looks like it skipped the silver ink step - no silver ink on BATMAN, not on 500, not on KNIGHTFALL, not on 19, but should be.

This exactly. If that cover really is white - not just a trick of the light - than it is likely an error cover where the foil was never applied.
This is my guess.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
But here you can buy a Batman #500 #6 : https://www.ebay.com/itm/255388382039

I can add it to my set of Batman #500 #1-#5.

Several available from this seller.
30 years experience, and dumb for all of them.
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Collector griffmiester private msg quote post Address this user
I'm trying to figure out what CBCS considers the Collector's Edition and the Direct Edition. Here is what CBCS census shows




Here is my copy that lists it is a Direct but has die cut cover & postcards inside




CGC only lists the regular, Collector's Edition and 2nd Print on their census.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
@griffmiester The Collector's Edition has a cover by Joe Quesada and the Direct Edition has a cover by Kelley Jones. Newsstand Edition would have the same Kelley Jones cover as Direct Edition. The one you have pictured is the Quesada cover.
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
I have to admit that I tried looking for the books to set them side by side but I cannot locate them as it got tiring trying to look through box after box. Sorry for my laziness. I do appreciate all the info that has been shared so far. Thank you @Byrdibyrd for sharing your knowledge.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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I cannot locate them as it got tiring trying to look through box after box.

I feel you. I'd have shown a photo of both covers, but I'm in the same situation.
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Collector griffmiester private msg quote post Address this user
@Byrdibyrd so is CBCS labeling these wrong?
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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@Byrdibyrd so is CBCS labeling these wrong?

Hadn't even bothered looking at the label. Oops. From what I'm seeing, there is the Collector's cover (Quesada) and that one has some signed DF editions but is otherwise the same cover. Then there's the non-Collector's cover (Kelley) that had a Direct Sales edition, a Newsstand edition, a 2nd printing, and polybagged versions of some or all of those. The Direct & Newsstand editions have the white Batman title that I'm seeing in the picture, and the 2nd printing has a purple Batman logo. You have something with a Quesada cover but the white title like a Kelley cover. That's just weird. I'm still thinking it's a printing error and maybe it got the 'Direct' label by mistake. It doesn't have the foil like a Collector's edition is supposed to have.
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