Tennessee School Bans ‘Maus’ Graphic Novel16790
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| i can see why....but at the same time......WHY?!! I mean do they teach students about WWII? Nazi Germany? Haulicaust? The graphic novel is just a reinterupting that just with cats and mice. I need to read it. Ive seen it around but just havent gotten to it |
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| Let's remember that politics are not to discussed on the forum. I suggest keeping the discussion to Maus, Art Spiegelman, the holocaust and those types of topics. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Agreed. I did not, and do not, intend this to be a political discussion. |
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| I've never read it but I know what it's about. It's a critically acclaimed piece of work. cencorship is always unfortunate. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by power_struggle55 And to that point, after this news came out, ‘Maus’ is now backordered on Amazon for two months. |
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| Eh, it's McMinn county. No real surprise there. The people up in arms about it probably haven't even read it. However, I do think Night by Elie Wiesel is a better book for the subject matter. | ||
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| Banning a book is almost a sign of book quality at this point. Maus is truly a classic. The only comic/graphic novel to win a Pulitzer, and one of very few to win any non-comic award. | ||
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As an aside, whomever these professional journalists are that write these articles, they need to invest in an editor or some kind of professional editing software. Good grief, some the errors...  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk i agree. subject matter is touchy...yes. But how is it any different then every important piece of art (books, movies etc) that deal with the subject. its just cancel culture (not being political). p |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson Even in the newspapers,... terrible grammar and punctuation. |
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| I think it's important to not speak in absolutes. It can set unfortunate precedents that come back to haunt society. If a book is determined not age appropriate for Jr. High School libraries, is that really "banning"? I personally think Maus is more appropriate for High School libraries than for Jr. High libraries. I don't have a problem with choosing not to put it in Jr. High or Elementary school libraries. | ||
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| Maus has been on my want list for years!!! Unfortunately, I've always wanted another comic more. Well, I'll have to get it now. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia I agree. The school board should have replaced the book with something more age appropriate instead of referring to it as or being banned. |
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| The book is age appropriate for 12 and up. Not sure what age group the board "banned" the book. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC It was the Jr. High School library. I think it's ok to debate age appropriateness. Maybe it's 12, maybe it's 15...I don't think there is an unreasonable side in that discussion. But to call it "banning" every time a book is determined to be age inappropriate I think sets a bed precedent. It would indicate that all books are ok for all school libraries, regardless of age. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson As a person with a degree in lit, I have to echo your sentiments. It's just sad that supposedly professional writers can't be bothered to proofread their work and the editors of these so-called writers can't be bothered to do their jobs. I would like to add that when I was studying for my degree, "Maus" was one of our assignments. It is a respectful, masterful, and deeply moving piece that I would recommend to anyone who is at least of high school age so that some of the more mature themes can be processed. The idea that it should be banned because some kids will see a breast and learn that PTSD and mental illness can lead to suicide is just grotesque. I cannot think of another work of literature that conveys the visceral horrors of the Holocaust in such a moving and inoffensive manner. |
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| Correction, I thought the banning was removing it from the Jr. High Library. It actually was a decision to remove it from the 8th grade curriculum. I actually don't know about it's availability in High School or Jr. High libraries. Jonathan Pierce, the board member who initiated the vote to remove Maus from the eighth-grade curriculum |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia In my opinion, eighth grade is old enough for "Maus" as long as the instructor can field questions and address concerns. And seriously, what eighth-grader has no idea what the opposite sex looks like in the nude? Banning the book because there's a breast is just stupid. I weep for sex education for our young people if we have 13-year-olds who are genuinely ignorant of the opposite sex. |
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| my guess a mom with a kid in elementary school gave her son the comic with mice and cats. thinking it would be like tom and jerry usually thats how it starts. mom makes bad call....everyone pays |
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| The thing that's more surprising for me is that it was on the 8th grade curriculum in the first place. Not because of boobies or bad words, but because it's a fairly mature and profound book. I think it would be better suited for study by college prep seniors. I doubt 8th graders were ever the target audience when Spiegelman wrote it. A lot of us here read the book...did any of you guys read it before high school? | ||
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| Regardless of cartoon nudity, the subject matter is what's important. I haven't read the book but I'm assuming its faithful (accurate) to the historical atrocity minus the gore. It's obviously an important world event that I personally do not believe grade eights are too young for. |
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| @GAC There's a copy on my bookshelf and I wouldn't have any problem with my 9th grader or even my 6th grader reading it if they wanted to. I just think they are too young to understand it beyond surface level. The story and art are full of symbolism and I doubt it would mean much at this age, even if I explained it to them. I will probably encourage them to read it when they are closer to the end of high school. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia I was a little surprised, too. I wonder if it was for an AP lit course or something like that. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Yes, perhaps it was decided the content was above their comprehension. Hopefully it just wasn't because parents complained because they don't like it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia It didn't exist when I was in high school! I did read it right when it came out, though. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC The depiction of hanging and nudity was cited as the main objection. |
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I've been inspired to start reading it again. The "nudity" is all but non-existent. See if you can find it in the image below. But the overall subject about survival in concentration camps is pretty tough stuff for a 13 year old kid that doesn't have it go right over their head. From the prologue: "Friends? Your Friends? If you lock them together in a room with no food for a week...then you could see what it is, Friends!"  |
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