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@poka I hope so to. The one thing going in CBCS's favor right now, is that Tim Bildhauser was there to start them down the right path.
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@poka I hope so to. The one thing going in CBCS's favor right now, is that Tim Bildhauser was there to start them down the right path.


maybe printed instead of published - given i believe both the canadian and uk price variants were printed in the US
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@poka

I thought the pence books were printed in the UK with different dies for the price. They were actually printed in the usa?

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Same press. Same ink, etc according to this article

https://blog.hobbydb.com/2017/03/28/marvel-comics-pence-price-variants/
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Nowadays aren't most printed in Canada - sooooo....all books are foreign??



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Same press. Same ink, etc according to this article

https://blog.hobbydb.com/2017/03/28/marvel-comics-pence-price-variants/


haha!!!! totally means they should cost extra!!! should probably charge more to grade cent variants (30 vs 35 etc) or Superman Test Logo books too!!!


I'm confused on the whole foreign costs more.... it's a comic yes? grading is the same 1 vs the other yes?? soooo...only difference in grading process would be the labeling???.....just don't get it
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
The only reason I can think of, in charging more for a foreign book is the extra labor involved. Most folks don't speak a second language. If a grader cane across a foreign book they would have to do research in a foreign language to get all tbe relevant information.

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Imagine trying to decipher a Cyrillic language and not one based on Latin. To a English only reading person, it would be a huge ordeal.
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The only reason I can think of, in charging more for a foreign book is the extra labor involved. Most folks don't speak a second language. If a grader cane across a foreign book they would have to do research in a foreign language to get all tbe relevant information.


nahhhh.... have an app on my phone that instantly translates through the camera (and does a decent job of it)....and certainly for UK books that wouldn't be the case..I mean....it's the US that has everything spelt wrong!!!
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Are smartphones really that smart? I didn't know they could scan text and translate. That would be awesome if that's the case. Apparently I still live under a rock.
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@poka

I thought the pence books were printed in the UK with different dies for the price. They were actually printed in the usa?

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Same press. Same ink, etc according to this article

https://blog.hobbydb.com/2017/03/28/marvel-comics-pence-price-variants/


yeah - some consider uk price variants to be truely first print as they needed to be printed early and shipped to the UK ahead of the US publishing day
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@poka

Thank you for the education
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Apparently captain carter might be a thing in the MCU

https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/exclusive-hayley-atwell-captain-carter.html


Wouldn't this be the second Captain Carter live action series? I thought there was already a mini-series a few years back. Agent Carter I believe.


It would be the second show with Carter. The first had two seasons with 18 total episodes. I'm not sure if it's technically in the MCU though. Agents of SHIELD was explicitly tied to the movies at the beginning but then grew apart from it, they basically stopped referencing each other, and I don't think it's "MCU canon" these days. Or until a movie says it is.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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Most folks don't speak a second language


Most estimates say over half the world population is multilingual. The US is behind the curve there.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
To be fair, high school and college required foreign language courses even in FL. Granted I retained virtually nil from my experience.
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Most folks don't speak a second language


Most estimates say over half the world population is multilingual. The US is behind the curve there.


English is the most spoken non-native language in the world. So a native English speaker can converse (at some level) with probably 1/5th or 1/4 of the world already. When considering conversing outside of their national language, Americans have the advantage.

A typical multilingual example in Europe will be a native Italian speaker who speaks English (to some degree). That is going to be typical… far fewer will know a second language in addition to English (at least well enough to converse). Italian as a native PLUS second language is a tiny (insignificant) percentage globally, so the native English speaker has the advantage. You can repeat this across much of Europe.

Then consider that global commerce is English dominated because English facilitates more precise terms for contract law and contract law is most developed in the US and UK…

I have studied three languages in addition to English and was at various points conversant in three. It provides no practical advantage beyond just a (wee) bit of additional knowledge.
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Ok, dumb question for all of you all.

I have an order with CBCS - it is my first order. I sent the books off at a Con last August. Currently, it states that the order is "Processing" which is where it has been for several months. I understand the TAT and that's fine, but what if I wanted to add pressing to those books in the hope of improving the grade?

Could I do that?? Or is it just too late?


PDG
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Most folks don't speak a second language


Most estimates say over half the world population is multilingual. The US is behind the curve there.


English is the most spoken non-native language in the world. So a native English speaker can converse (at some level) with probably 1/5th or 1/4 of the world already. When considering conversing outside of their national language, Americans have the advantage.

A typical multilingual example in Europe will be a native Italian speaker who speaks English (to some degree). That is going to be typical… far fewer will know a second language in addition to English (at least well enough to converse). Italian as a native PLUS second language is a tiny (insignificant) percentage globally, so the native English speaker has the advantage. You can repeat this across much of Europe.

Then consider that global commerce is English dominated because English facilitates more precise terms for contract law and contract law is most developed in the US and UK…

I have studied three languages in addition to English and was at various points conversant in three. It provides no practical advantage beyond just a (wee) bit of additional knowledge.



This is true - I lived in Europe for years and never had to learn another language. I simply asked if they spoke English and this was usually enough to get me by. I did learn Spanish when I was younger, I learned some rudimentary French and German while I was there, and just enough of the Russian/Estonian/Latvian languages to be able to buy a drink.


PDG
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@PDGray

I haven't tried it lately, as in the past 2 years, but if you can get hold of a customer service rep, it wouldn't hurt to ask. You just might have to start fresh in the line though.
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Ok, dumb question for all of you all.

I have an order with CBCS - it is my first order. I sent the books off at a Con last August. Currently, it states that the order is "Processing" which is where it has been for several months. I understand the TAT and that's fine, but what if I wanted to add pressing to those books in the hope of improving the grade?

Could I do that?? Or is it just too late?


PDG


even if you could are you sure you would - current TAT for pressing alone is 2 years. you would not see your books until 2024-2025
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Ouch...

Unless you can quickstream or bump up the speed I'd say forget it....
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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Most folks don't speak a second language


Most estimates say over half the world population is multilingual. The US is behind the curve there.


English is the most spoken non-native language in the world. So a native English speaker can converse (at some level) with probably 1/5th or 1/4 of the world already. When considering conversing outside of their national language, Americans have the advantage.

A typical multilingual example in Europe will be a native Italian speaker who speaks English (to some degree). That is going to be typical… far fewer will know a second language in addition to English (at least well enough to converse). Italian as a native PLUS second language is a tiny (insignificant) percentage globally, so the native English speaker has the advantage. You can repeat this across much of Europe.

Then consider that global commerce is English dominated because English facilitates more precise terms for contract law and contract law is most developed in the US and UK…

I have studied three languages in addition to English and was at various points conversant in three. It provides no practical advantage beyond just a (wee) bit of additional knowledge.


yeah....I had to pass a French test for University as there was no guarantee that all my classes would be in english...I was able to do it (30 yrs ago!!) but much has been lost and really not much use other than occasionally responging in english when something is being said in the room (not directed at me) just to kind of let people know that I know enough so they should maybe be careful when speaking around me!!
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So I just heard some upsetting news that CBCS is now doing a base $10 upcharge on any foreign comic book sent in for grading. I think this is a bad decision and will cost them some significant foreign business. Can anyone confirm or deny this?


According to the submission form, yes. And honestly, I don't think the graded foreign market is that huge right now. The vast majority of foreign collectors I know just deal in raws. And quite honestly, CGC is shooting themselves in their foot with the way they are labeling the foreigns submitted to them.


What constitutes 'foreign'...i.e. CPV (Canadian price variants), pence variants, UK magazines etc.???

Cause I had a bunch of Mighty World of Marvel and others I was considering sending in now that CBCS has magazine size......


It's actually on the form.








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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
What pressing companies besides CCS / CGC can maintain a signature series yellow label on a cgc book?
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What pressing companies besides CCS / CGC can maintain a signature series yellow label on a cgc book?


https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/9102/cracking-yellow-label-slab-to-press-and-resubmit/

@CFP_Comics used to be authorized by both cgc and cbcs . don‘t know if still is
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You can't get good wood on the ball every time. HotKeyComics private msg quote post Address this user
So other English language price variants like Australia and the UK pence stuff still cost extra but Canadian ones don't? Thats a bit odd.
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@HotKeyComics actually, English langauge comics published in Canada would be considered foreigns also. It seems like a good, accurate and simple definition to me.
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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@HotKeyComics actually, English langauge comics published in Canada would be considered foreigns also. It seems like a good, accurate and simple definition to me.


All just BS!! so 'Published in US' not extra but 'Published in Canada' extra....even though all the books are Printed in Canada - both US and Canada publishers

That's right...have a look at a new book...where was it printed?? unless it is small press independent it's Canada!

So now my Captain Canuck, Cerebus and others will be more??!!! Canadian Publishers - printed in Canada and distributed in both US and Canada - and they'll be more for people who bought them in the US off of US comic racks!!!!????

Sorry - don't seem right mate!!
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@HotKeyComics actually, English langauge comics published in Canada would be considered foreigns also. It seems like a good, accurate and simple definition to me.


All just BS!! so 'Published in US' not extra but 'Published in Canada' extra....even though all the books are Printed in Canada - both US and Canada publishers

That's right...have a look at a new book...where was it printed?? unless it is small press independent it's Canada!

So now my Captain Canuck, Cerebus and others will be more??!!! Canadian Publishers - printed in Canada and distributed in both US and Canada - and they'll be more for people who bought them in the US off of US comic racks!!!!????

Sorry - don't seem right mate!!


Good point!!
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@KatKomics @HotKeyComics This seems silly to me too. Especially as I have been getting more into foreign editions. It might make me think twice about sending them in with having to spend extra money.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I can understand charging more in order to grade a foreign edition. If it isn't already in their database, then it takes extra time and effort to gather the information needed for the label.
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I can understand charging more in order to grade a foreign edition. If it isn't already in their database, then it takes extra time and effort to gather the information needed for the label.


Yeah....but just the 1st time
I don't know how many foreign editions are received and then how many are new to the database....but wouldn't every modern be new??.

Again... I have an app that auto translates.... can't be that hard to hover over a book and enter Title, issue # artist, writer, reprint of xxx etc...
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
I don't know... it doesn't matter. When it comes down to it this is just another revenue stream... they have no requirement to justify anything to anyone. We can take it or leave it. If foreign was enough of a market then CBCS wouldn't have also charged like CGC if it was a market they wanted to gain share in. It must be small enough that they don't care about courting the business away from their competitors
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