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| Marvel Super-Heroes #12 is listed in two rows, one under Marvel and one under Marvel Comics. There is only one comic in the Marvel Comics row, under the 7.0 grade column. Is there any way to merge the two rows? | ||
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| @Fads89 my guess is no. I'm 90% certain that is has to do with the way books were categorized and described in the early days of CBCS. I believe that if you were to look at that one book, you would see "Marvel Comics" on the label, not just "Marvel". There are several books that I have seen where there are two listings. I'm thinking it would be a Herculian task to go in, find them all, and correct them. And, if you do that, then the population report wouldn't match the label. You may think that that fact shouldn't matter, but it does. If you were looking to buy a book and you notice that the label says "Marvel Comics" but the population report only shows "Marvel", you might think it is a forged label. Maybe YOU wouldn't, but I will guarantee you that someone would notice it and, at the very least, complain that they don't match. |
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| Ok. Thanks. It is odd that a 7.0 book shows no books in the population report with a higher grade, though. | ||
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| @Fads89 well, my hypothesis that this just happened in the early days just got shot to hell. I checked the Marvel Super-heroes, Marvel Comics, #12 out, and it was graded sometime in 2021. Someone screwed up. However, on the ones that I have been able to check. the information has always matched the labels. Plus, they all had certification numbers begin in 00, which indicates they were graded in the early days of CBCS. Do you happen to have that 7.0? It'd be interesting to see if they matched. | ||
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| Is it true if you have a comic book thats graded and you have the only one, does that make the value go up? For example, Godzilla rulers of earth #1. I checked the census and I only see one grade of 3.5. Would the first 9.8 or 9.6 graded book be worth a lot? | ||
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| @Watcher5866 as a GENERAL rule, I'd say yes. It may only be a small bump though. It all depends on the book. I don't know that there is a large demand for Godzilla, rulers of the earth #1. If there is, it would increase the value significantly, I would think. However, if there is low to no demand, it may not increase the value enough to cover the cost of grading. Drek is drek, even if it's a 9.8 piece of drek. | ||
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| I think demand has a lot more to do with it than the population report. Godzilla will never be as popular as Spider-man or batman. | ||
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| This is true. I’m just thinking Godzilla should be pretty popular now a days with the new movies coming out. Also the art in that book and series is some of the best Godzilla art I’ve seen to date! Thanks guys! | ||
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| @Watcher5866 one last thing about being the only graded copy or the highest grade. It probably goes without saying, but I'll say it anyways. It would have to be the only copy in both the CBCS population report and the CGC census. You can believe anything you want about CGC demanding more money, but I believe that disappears if it is the only copy graded by either company (especially if it's high grade)!! | ||
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| I agree! I did check both and it looks like CBCS has the only grade of that book which was the 3.5. I can’t imagine why they would have sent such a damaged book to be graded. Unless I’m doing it wrong. I would love for you guys to check and confirm my inquiry. Thanks! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Watcher5866 Some folks just can't be taught. Like moths to the flame.  |
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| You know I can understand grading a comic that you know has high value even if it is in horrific condition like the above and first appearance comic books. It’s the newer comics that have no significance in them are the ones I question. | ||
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| @Watcher5866 Sorry, I thought you were referring to the original inquiry about Marvel Super Heroes #12. That's why I thought it was funny to post my low grade copy. You were referring to a less significant Godzilla comic. To answer your question, probably the low grade copy had some flaws that the submitter didn't recognize. Also, if there are only one or two copies of a book on the census it usually means that they are dollar bin books. Some people may like owning the only copy on the census, but I doubt there is any real way to know that it will sell for less if there were two or more copies on the census. |
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| For full transparency that 7.0 all by its lonesome is mine. My favorite super-hero growing up was Spider-Man (and still is), but I also collected anything associated with Jim Starlin. I have the full Warlock run and I'm trying to complete my Captain Marvel(Vol.1) run. And I still need Marvel Super-Heroes No.13. | ||
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| I understand fully because now that I think about it, the silver surfer is my favorite character in the whole MCU and as you know Jim starlin is the best artist to draw him. Sorry jack kirby! So yea Jim is one of my favorite artists. | ||
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| @Jesse_O speaking of high grades, is there an easy way to determine the number of 10, 9.9, and 9.8 books from cbcs? (And cgc if you happen to know) Trying to test a theory/deflate a common cgc fan boy claim against cbcs |
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Quote:Originally Posted by fivestar What's the theory? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by fivestar I know exactly what you are talking about. There is no way of doing that, that I am aware of. Honestly, I just laugh at it. Just because one guy on youtube (there might be more that I'm not aware of) got some 9.9's or 10's, does not mean that CBCS has started to give out more. At least, not percentage wise. With the severe increase in submissions this last year, of course there are going to be more of them!! Plus, CBCS is getting more and more common so people are more aware of them. Without all the numbers from every year, there is no way to prove or disprove their hypothesis. I think it's just brand loyalty. For some, they will look for ANY reason to bash the competition. Then, someone new or a bit gullible comes along and says "is this true?" And it just grows from there. Unfortunately, there will be people will be people who will not be convinced by any amount of logic or evidence. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson The theory is that CBCS is handing out more 9.9's and 10's. And some take it further by claiming it will hurt the value of their 9.8's. Of course, they must be the ones buying the label and not the book. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by fivestar http://cgcdata.com/cgc/ GLWTS! Quote: Originally Posted by fivestar Good thing you're not a fanboy  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O That's odd. I rarely come across a CBCS 9.9 or 10. Of course, they are more prevalent on the thicker cover stock books. I have a theory of my own. Personally, I believe that the cgc gives out 9.9s and 10s like candy on Halloween, especially to their "good" customers. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HexView Has anyone ever accused you of being a fan of the cgc, Stu? |
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