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What are CBCS's restoration grading criteria?16733

Collector cbrescue1 private msg quote post Address this user
CGC refugee here (well, sorta -- I thought I'd give CBCS a try after getting ticked off with rising fees and long TATS at the other place). Anyway, I have a question about CBCS's criteria for grading restored comics. I emailed them about this 4 days ago and have heard nothing, so I'm posting it here.

Is CBCS's restoration scale the same as CGC's? The latter posts it on their website, but I can't find a description of CBCS's. And what determines if a restoration is considered amateur vs. professional? CGC uses an ABC/1-5 system -- A being professional methods and materials, C amateur and B something in-between, and 1 thru 5 indicating the extent. I ask because I do restoration/conservation mostly as a hobby, and ones I've done that were submitted to CGC came back A or B.

This Superman 16 I just got back from CBCS. I'm happy with the grade (this book started as a 0.5 and needed leafcasting/color touch on every page; I did this one for fun to see how far I could take it). But the grader's notes aren't entirely accurate, and I have no idea what their criteria even are...


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Collector KCBatmanFan private msg quote post Address this user
Welcome to the forum! I sadly can’t answer our question, though I’m sure someone will be along shortly.

I just wanted to compliment your work. That is really impressive for a “hobbyist”.
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Collector cbrescue1 private msg quote post Address this user
Thank you @KCBatmanFan !
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Collector Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
@cbrescue1 You did an amazing job on that book! WOW!
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks for posting. Fun to read about leaf casting. A very interesting thing to do, I am sure.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
@cbrescue1 No, CBCS does not use CGC’s Restoration scale. CBCS simply identifies if a book has been restored or conserved and then a level determined by the amount of restoration detected.

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Originally Posted by Per CBCS Website

CBCS has one classification level for conservation and five levels for restoration; slight, slight/moderate, moderate, moderate/extensive, and extensive. The more restoration that is detected, the higher the level becomes. Once the book has been checked for conservation and restoration, it enters the grading phase.
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Collector cbrescue1 private msg quote post Address this user
interesting, thx @dielinfinite
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Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill. HexView private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by dielinfinite
@cbrescue1 No, CBCS does not use CGC’s Restoration scale. CBCS simply identifies if a book has been restored or conserved and then a level determined by the amount of restoration detected.

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Originally Posted by Per CBCS Website

CBCS has one classification level for conservation and five levels for restoration; slight, slight/moderate, moderate, moderate/extensive, and extensive. The more restoration that is detected, the higher the level becomes. Once the book has been checked for conservation and restoration, it enters the grading phase.
I can't find any info on their website either. Is that quote all CBCS says about restoration? There's got to be more of an explanation than that, no?
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
Pointing this out mostly since @cbrescue1 is new-ish (welcome!) and may not have slogged through the whole terms of use, but discussion of restoration/conservation/pressing techniques is disallowed https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/9/page/1/cbcs-message-board---terms-of-use/#1 . So we'll want to keep the discussion on the happy side of criteria.

I don't have anything practically useful to add to the discussion besides that CBCS does recognize conservation separately from restoration (as @dielinfinite pointed out), so they have some system for distinguishing the two.
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Collector cbrescue1 private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xkonk
Pointing this out mostly since @cbrescue1 is new-ish (welcome!) and may not have slogged through the whole terms of use, but discussion of restoration/conservation/pressing techniques is disallowed https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/9/page/1/cbcs-message-board---terms-of-use/#1 . So we'll want to keep the discussion on the happy side of criteria.


Good to know, glad you pointed that out! Having now read it, my sense is they mainly don’t want people using the forum to advise on how to alter comics, whereas I’m merely asking about grading ones that have already been worked on. It’s good to see they do recognize conservation as a separate category, but it still would be helpful to have some clearer sense of how they make these determinations.
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Originally Posted by xkonk
Pointing this out mostly since @cbrescue1 is new-ish (welcome!) and may not have slogged through the whole terms of use, but discussion of restoration/conservation/pressing techniques is disallowed https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/9/page/1/cbcs-message-board---terms-of-use/#1 . So we'll want to keep the discussion on the happy side of criteria.

I don't have anything practically useful to add to the discussion besides that CBCS does recognize conservation separately from restoration (as @dielinfinite pointed out), so they have some system for distinguishing the two.
I'm looking for a link like these to CBCS'resto info:

tttps://www.cgccomics.com/news/article/4084/
https://www.cgccomics.com/ccs-pressing/
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