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TL;DR Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
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Is there a chance that moisture can collect inside a slab (CBCS slab in this case) from being in the cold then being brought indoors? Condensation I guess it would be. If so, it would eventually go away correct?


Absolutely a risk. If condensation results in water droplets forming and ultimately contacting the paper… well… that may not just go away.

On the bright side, I don’t think the risk is as high given the materials involved (plastics)… but it remains a risk.

I believe the best way to avoid issues is to avoid fully sealed containers. I imagine / know the CBCS slabs aren’t airtight. This helps avoid condensation issues. Now, if the container used for shipping is airtight or nearly so, I think that could be a problem…

I think the speed of temp change, degree of “sealing”, degree of temp difference, and the transition medium (plastic for the slab) all impact the risk, along with humidity and temp of when it was sealed up…

Sudden, sharp temp differences or humidity changes are of course never good…

Edit: want to note that pressing with extra humidification hits all the points above (sudden temp change, humidity change, etc). That is why you see non-pros messing it up… but in light of an uncontrolled environment, I suppose you want to avoid these swings :-)
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The current CBCS case has vent holes.
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Stupid question on my part. Why would you subject the book to extremes? Or are you talking sbout mail guy delivering a cold book to a warm house?


Sorry, yes. Slabs being mailed. I have a slab waiting in my mail box since early afternoon. Its more than -20 here and substantially warmer in my house.
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Its more than -20 here

Explanation: Live in SoCal
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Is there a chance that moisture can collect inside a slab (CBCS slab in this case) from being in the cold then being brought indoors? Condensation I guess it would be. If so, it would eventually go away correct?


Slightly horrified that this question is being asked...


I'm not putting my slabs in a freezer....I'm talking about slabs being mailed...its winter up here in the Grear White North. lol!
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@GAC Last time I felt cold like that was many Many moons ago and I was stationed on a northern bit of the East Coast.
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Is there a chance that moisture can collect inside a slab (CBCS slab in this case) from being in the cold then being brought indoors? Condensation I guess it would be. If so, it would eventually go away correct?


Absolutely a risk. If condensation results in water droplets forming and ultimately contacting the paper… well… that may not just go away.

On the bright side, I don’t think the risk is as high given the materials involved (plastics)… but it remains a risk.

I believe the best way to avoid issues is to avoid fully sealed containers. I imagine / know the CBCS slabs aren’t airtight. This helps avoid condensation issues. Now, if the container used for shipping is airtight or nearly so, I think that could be a problem…

I think the speed of temp change, degree of “sealing”, degree of temp difference, and the transition medium (plastic for the slab) all impact the risk, along with humidity and temp of when it was sealed up…

Sudden, sharp temp differences or humidity changes are of course never good…

Edit: want to note that pressing with extra humidification hits all the points above (sudden temp change, humidity change, etc). That is why you see non-pros messing it up… but in light of an uncontrolled environment, I suppose you want to avoid these swings :-)


Thanks! OK, so it's something I need to consider. I'll bring the box in and let it sit for a little while. I doubt the packaging is air tight so I'll let the package warm up slowly. Appreciate the response!
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Its more than -20 here

Explanation: Live in SoCal


I've been to SoCal and trust me, if I could convince my wife to move there, I'd be there in a heartbeat! Love California! Ive driven the PCH a few times...just wonderful!
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Its more than -20 here

Explanation: Live in SoCal


I've been to SoCal and trust me, if I could convince my wife to move there, I'd be there in a heartbeat! Love California! Ive driven the PCH a few times...just wonderful!

I'm right where PCH & 101 merge. Lovely down here, but you have to take the fires along with all the good weather and gorgeous views!
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@GAC I really think the risk is small. I also believe most of the risk is from the packer’s side - so I wouldn’t sweat it. Bad condensation pun.
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Its more than -20 here

Explanation: Live in SoCal


I've been to SoCal and trust me, if I could convince my wife to move there, I'd be there in a heartbeat! Love California! Ive driven the PCH a few times...just wonderful!

I'm right where PCH & 101 merge. Lovely down here, but you have to take the fires along with all the good weather and gorgeous views!


I'm waiting for my son right now and this is the view out the passenger window....fire sounds pretty good right about now.


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Just to be clear: minus 20 f or c?

Pretty big difference ;-)
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@GAC I know so many people who want to experience a white Christmas, but... maybe not that much white!!
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Its more than -20 here

Explanation: Live in SoCal


I've been to SoCal and trust me, if I could convince my wife to move there, I'd be there in a heartbeat! Love California! Ive driven the PCH a few times...just wonderful!

I'm right where PCH & 101 merge. Lovely down here, but you have to take the fires along with all the good weather and gorgeous views!


I'm waiting for my son right now and this is the view out the passenger window....fire sounds pretty good right about now.



Welcome to Canadaland. I hate snow. We got about 8 to 10 inches a couple of weeks ago. No thank you.
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Just to be clear: minus 20 f or c?

Pretty big difference ;-)

Since he's in Canada, it's probably Celsius which would be about -4 F.
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Just to be clear: minus 20 f or c?

Pretty big difference ;-)

Since he's in Canada, it's probably Celsius which would be about -4 F.


Sorry...my son arrived as I posted that picture...just got home. Yes, celsius.
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Its more than -20 here

Explanation: Live in SoCal


I've been to SoCal and trust me, if I could convince my wife to move there, I'd be there in a heartbeat! Love California! Ive driven the PCH a few times...just wonderful!

I'm right where PCH & 101 merge. Lovely down here, but you have to take the fires along with all the good weather and gorgeous views!


I'm waiting for my son right now and this is the view out the passenger window....fire sounds pretty good right about now.



Welcome to Canadaland. I hate snow. We got about 8 to 10 inches a couple of weeks ago. No thank you.


I agree!!! hate the white stuff!
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Just to be clear: minus 20 f or c?

Pretty big difference ;-)

Since he's in Canada, it's probably Celsius which would be about -4 F.


Yes, I realize that, it was for the benefit of others ;-)
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I'm waiting for my son right now and this is the view out the passenger window....fire sounds pretty good right about now.




It sounds good, but imagine that all the white stuff in the picture is fire instead. Then it's not so great.
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It sounds good, but imagine that all the white stuff in the picture is fire instead. Then it's not so great.

Yup. Lost my first car in the Painted Cave Fire and I was driving the car at the time. Trust me, the fires really suck.
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Just wait till you get the applications are not compatible problems
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I'm not upgrading anything I use for work.
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Inconvenience is never a good thing. Even if it's as simple as drivers for a scanner
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So apparently free comic book day is in may, so I am a bit early, but I'm curious as to how you guys / gals approach it if you don't visit a local store? Last year, I bought a box from comics elite "I think", but it was kinda pricy for free books.

Any thoughts on a better approach? I don't subscribe to any specific online store monthly, I typically just buy what I like from whomever has it.
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Does anyone know at what submission size your books are sent back in two boxes from grading? I find 30 in a box leads to damage. 22 in a box has routinely shipped flawlessly. If I send 40 books in will they come back in 2 boxes?
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@HeinzDad

Stupid question on my part. But if you know this to be the case, can you divide the order into separate invoices that way you insure that your order is divided properly?
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It’s not a stupid question. My thoughts have been numerous subs may gum up the works more????? I could be wrong, I unknowingly figure 1 large order may be easier for the system?? I don’t know.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
I would imagine you would submit multiple orders in the same shipping box, and if they are dividing the return shipment into 2 boxes anyways, I don't see how that would cost you more. The only drawback I can see is that the books don't arrive at the same time. But if you aren't flipping them I can't imagine that being an issue.

Personally if I knew that they can't ship a certain quantity without breaking, I would divide the order. I would hate to risk having to reholder anything if it wasn't necessary.

Edit

By the way, it's very considerate to think of the company first, but there is a time where you need to put yourself first and think in the scheme of things it's 1 submission amongst thousands. I don't think they will mind.
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It’s not a stupid question. My thoughts have been numerous subs may gum up the works more????? I could be wrong, I unknowingly figure 1 large order may be easier for the system?? I don’t know.

I have shipped multiple orders in a single box before and had no problem at all. I do that when I have books that need signature verification, because I know those will hold up the entire order, so I send them on a separate invoice in an envelope/mailer inside a bigger box with all my other submissions. Also, I think they will ship no more than 20 ~ 25 to a box. The Other Guy does the same thing. They'll break up big orders into more than one box.
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