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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? 16K	16K Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	Quote: Originally Posted by Galen130 I already voiced my opinion on this, but my biggest turn off was their piss-poor QA/QC, especially after they raised prices the first time. The last 20 books I sent in April 2020 didn’t get back to me until November. All 20 had to be sent back for Mechanical Error. Every slab had a pressure fracture on the seal, one book was slabbed with a finger bend (my guy pressed it before sending it in), and another book was graded a 9.8 with two ink-breaking creases. They replaced every slab, but didn’t fix the bent book (at my request) and they didn’t downgrade the obvious ‘not’ 9.8. Two of the slabs were returned with switched labels. WTF??? Those were returned…again. When I called about those two, I told the representative I talked to that they were losing my business after almost five years. He was sorry to hear that…he wasn’t by the sound of his voice. It’s not about the customer, as far as I’m concerned. This whole experience has put me off my tea. I have low tolerance for B.S., so if I’m not happy, I walk away. CGC can pound sand…I have no desire to send in comics for grading to anyone anymore. I’ll buy slabs from someone else instead. Here endeth the rant. @Galen130 - I have said this before, one of the main reasons I chose not to continue using cgc was their attitude that I was there to serve them. That plus CBCS lower price, better quality, better pressing, non-newton ring encasements has equated to my sending over 4,000 comics to CBCS and ZERO to cgc since 2019.
	3 years ago	Post 76 • IP flag post

I called CGC about the giveback benefit. 1.13K	1.13K beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by Davethebrave Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 if i had 3 million to invest in it would not be in these times on a comic book it would be in real estate , not saying the sale is not real Which real estate market? Which comic? If you ask me $3m for a house in the burbs of Toronto or LA… vs AC1… the latter every day of the week. If vs Manhattan at today’s prices… tougher call but still AC1 if I had the $ to not finance. AF15? Give me the house lol i was thinking nyc market i would rather have a house in brooklyn now than say a comic book. that i need to sell down the line real estate brings in cash every month with rent its a no brainer invest in real estate where every month i can collect rent and get money on my investment on a monthly basis and its also a tax write off
	3 years ago	Post 77 • IP flag post

Masculinity takes a holiday. 37.4K	37.4K EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 6
	Quote: Originally Posted by Galen130 I like to think that I'm still a man of action. I don't thump my chest, bitch and moan (maybe a bit), or threaten to stop doing things then continue to do so anyway. I'm not all bluster. Times like this make you realize that a primary reason for supporting the little guy is just so that you continue to have a second option. They may want to act as if CBCS doesn't exist, but "customers" certainly should not.
	3 years ago	Post 78 • IP flag post

I haven't aired it out. It's part of the provenance. 7.23K	7.23K Galen130 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 i was thinking nyc market i would rather have a house in brooklyn now than say a comic book. that i need to sell down the line real estate brings in cash every month with rent its a no brainer invest in real estate where every month i can collect rent and get money on my investment on a monthly basis and its also a tax write off I was into investing in some comics for my personal collection, but after all the shenanigans, I decided against it...for the most part. I had about a 60-comic stack set aside for submission until last November.. Silver Age to Modern Age. I went through those books and returned the ones I wanted into my PC...the rest I put up for sale. I decided to use the funds from my sales to purchase signed slabs from Silver to Copper Age. Yes, I was looking to make a little money with some hot keys while keeping some stuff for myself. I was looking to make a shitload of money off comics, but I wasn't going to put up with CGC's crap anymore. Stubborn, stupid, selfish, I don't care. I still have a love for comics. I just think I'll find what I like and keep them for myself. As my wife constantly states...it is what it is. Lol
	3 years ago	Post 79 • IP flag post

Collector 67	67 Pandorasdad private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC I say bring it on!! The more CGC increases their prices the more clients convert to CBCS. And longer wait times.
	3 years ago	Post 80 • IP flag post

Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill. 521	521 HexView private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 and myabe its my nyc state of thiking but i dnt buy into those sales of say 2.5 million all that is is a add for the cgc marketing tool So you believe that HA and CC are scamming the hobby and those books didn't really sell for what they did?
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I’m Kinda Married To A Celebrity. 19.07K	19.07K 00slim private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by HexView Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 and myabe its my nyc state of thiking but i dnt buy into those sales of say 2.5 million all that is is a add for the cgc marketing tool So you believe that HA and CC are scamming the hobby and those books didn't really sell for what they did? Here’s a short documentary about fraud in the graded video game market. It will give you an idea of what he’s talking about:
	3 years ago	Post 82 • IP flag post

I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. 80.67K	80.67K GAC private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by 00slim Quote: Originally Posted by HexView Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 and myabe its my nyc state of thiking but i dnt buy into those sales of say 2.5 million all that is is a add for the cgc marketing tool So you believe that HA and CC are scamming the hobby and those books didn't really sell for what they did? Here’s a short documentary about fraud in the graded video game market. It will give you an idea of what he’s talking about: There's no question shenanigans were/are going on over at HA....at the very least the shill bidding that's legally allowed....not true shenanigans when it's legal but what a weird law to have.
	3 years ago	Post 83 • IP flag post

Collector 25.77K	25.77K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by xkonk I doubt that anyone outside of CGC knows the actual numbers, but people say that their TATs haven't decreased at all. That suggests that they haven't had any decrease in business since they raised prices. If they can charge more and demand stays the same, why not charge even more? I would guess, from their perspective, that the only problem would be if/when demand goes and it turns out that they've lost some market share to CBCS/whoever else. In the meantime, at least, they keep vacuuming up money. TAT has not changed - and looking at cgc board ppl there are still going to submit. new cgc investors want to optimize their return
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I called CGC about the giveback benefit. 1.13K	1.13K beastboy1980 private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by GAC Quote: Originally Posted by 00slim Quote: Originally Posted by HexView Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 and myabe its my nyc state of thiking but i dnt buy into those sales of say 2.5 million all that is is a add for the cgc marketing tool So you believe that HA and CC are scamming the hobby and those books didn't really sell for what they did? Here’s a short documentary about fraud in the graded video game market. It will give you an idea of what he’s talking about: There's no question shenanigans were/are going on over at HA....at the very least the shill bidding that's legally allowed....not true shenanigans when it's legal but what a weird law to have. i have to watch this doc thanks for posting it up
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I’m Kinda Married To A Celebrity. 19.07K	19.07K 00slim private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	@beastboy1980 You’re welcome. I believe @CatmanAmerica originally brought it to the forum’s attention awhile back.
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" . " 17.41K	17.41K Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 2
	Great discussion!
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Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill. 521	521 HexView private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by HexView Quote: Originally Posted by beastboy1980 and myabe its my nyc state of thiking but i dnt buy into those sales of say 2.5 million all that is is a add for the cgc marketing tool So you believe that HA and CC are scamming the hobby and those books didn't really sell for what they did? So where's the video about comic scamming? And I also mentioned ComicConnect as well as HA.
	3 years ago	Post 88 • IP flag post

Collector 25.77K	25.77K poka private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 3
	If it is about that shill bidding is allowed in Texas and that HA in their T&C clearly states that they may bid on their own auction items - then we have covered this before. eg in thus thread https://forum.cbcscomics.com/topic/13578/page/2/situation-just-got-serious-for-this-ebay-seller/
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I’m Kinda Married To A Celebrity. 19.07K	19.07K 00slim private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	@HexView I’d suggest watching it. The principles apply to the collectibles market in general.
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Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill. 521	521 HexView private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 1
	Quote: Originally Posted by 00slim @HexView I’d suggest watching it. The principles apply to the collectibles market in general. I've watched both of them
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" . " 17.41K	17.41K Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 0
	Quote: Originally Posted by 00slim @HexView I’d suggest watching it. The principles apply to the collectibles market in general. TL;DR blame yourselves for spec bubbles as the market is too broad and liquid for single actors to meaningfully manipulate it. Long ver: Bidding on own items has been around pre boom as well. Every collectible market out there is in a major bull/boom/bubble cycle. Heritage only has a meaningful part of one little slice… Why would anyone think this drives any of the current market activity? Car market, watches, etc. Some of the card (sports card) promoters have made statements they paid big money in the past to help ignite the market. Fully disclosed and people still bid it up. Just bid to what you think is fair given your demand and the supply out there. Speculative greed on the buyer side is driving the most absurd segments… we don’t need to find a bogeyman.
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. 61.25K	61.25K DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 7

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Collector 233	233 Chewy private msg quote post Address this user	plus 1 plus 1 plus 1 4
	Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson 25% more nut? Or more kick?
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