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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
As many sellers have found, packing slabs (in bubble wrap) in a 1092 box and putting that box in a 1095 box is an effective way to ship graded books while minimizing the risk of a cracked case.

This week I heard from a close friend that the post office is changing the design of the 1095 box and that it will now be too small to fit a 1092 box inside of it.

Getting both of these boxes free from the post office made life for anyone shipping slabs a lot easier.

Any ideas of how to safely pack slabs while minimizing cost now that the post office has made life more difficult?
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
good to know. I always order new comics off ebay (from a seller usually same seller).
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Collector lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user
@drchaos Well, that’s frustrating as hell. I might try and order a bunch before they implement the design change.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
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@drchaos Well, that’s frustrating as hell. I might try and order a bunch before they implement the design change.


I also plan on hoarding the previous model.
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Collector Belarak private msg quote post Address this user
The changes to the USPS boxes can be found here.
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Collector tonnage71 private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks for the hot tip! Just ordered 25 more… 👍🏼
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Collector CatCovers private msg quote post Address this user
@drchaos Just ordered more. Thanks for letting us know. Annoying they changed this.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Won't be a problem for me after Jan 1
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
For those planning to stock up now, good luck!

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The Expedited Packaging Supplies with new dimensions will go into effect in late September 2021. USPS will continue to fulfill orders for the Expedited Packaging Supplies with the current dimensions while supplies last. Once supplies with the current dimensions have been depleted, orders for these items will be fulfilled with supplies that have the new dimensions.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
I've never used that method and never had a problem, so I think life will go on. I reuse MCS slab boxes when I have them, or else simply use enough bubble wrap/paper padding.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Piss on the USPS.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I ordered an item as a Christmas gift, that I needed to then ship to the recipient, on December 8th. The USPS didn't deliver it until the 21st, too late for me to mail it on. According to tracking, it sat at my local post office for eight days before it was tagged for delivery. This was only the latest in a string of incidents. So, I've been pretty put out with them for a while now.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
For those of you that use slab shippers foam inserts, the foam shape is different too. I had to wait a week for the revised shape to come in stock.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
you guys are privileged not paying for postal office boxes.
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I blame the forum gremlins. figment private msg quote post Address this user
We spend about $3 in supplies for each shipment, including heavy duty box and bubble wrap. Buyer pays as part of the shipping charge. We've received too many of those thin USPS boxes coming in crunched over the years, and hence abandoned them for anything going out.
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Collector PolarisNuclearSS2020 private msg quote post Address this user
Best advice is here, imo.


https://boards.cgccomics.com/topic/410537-how-do-you-ship-graded-cgc-books-and-keep-cost-down-for-buyers/?do=findComment&comment=9673994
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Collector* Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
The USPS shouldn’t be providing boxes or anything else for free. They should be charging for supplies.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
Roll your packing costs into your shipping costs or just eat it. Shipping is what it is; if a buyer is getting the shipping service they pay for then everyone should be happy. Anyone complaining about how shipping costs can kick rocks.
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" . " Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Towmater
The USPS shouldn’t be providing boxes or anything else for free. They should be charging for supplies.


It is (in theory) a way to retain or increase business. Fedex and UPS provide free boxes too.

At the end of the day it is all part of marketing expense.
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" . " Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
As for USPS quality of service… I have had fewer issues with damaged goods through USPS than I’ve had with UPS and Fedex.

They all suck but I can’t say USPS is any worse really.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Davethebrave
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Originally Posted by Towmater
The USPS shouldn’t be providing boxes or anything else for free. They should be charging for supplies.


It is (in theory) a way to retain or increase business. Fedex and UPS provide free boxes too.

At the end of the day it is all part of marketing expense.


All we are saying is that in many countries boxes provided by postal services are not for free. Eg I have to pay for boxes and then get a partial discount when using a new box. While UPS/FEDEX provides free boxes - they have fewer choices and for them it is included in the shipping cost - which in many cases are more expensive than USPS
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
I've never done the 2 box shipping like that. I've always used the small bubble wrap (folded into 3 layers) on the top and bottom of the box. I would love to put an MCS slab box inside a Flat Rate box but I haven't been able to make that fit. I can get a Gemini into a flat rate box, but just barely.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
You can still fit a 1097 box into the new 1095 if you want to double box them.

You have to order the 1097's, not available at the PO.

The problem with the 1092/1095 combo is that they both have a 12" dimension. So if you make up the boxes, you will find it impossible to slide one into the other.

A possible workaround: Don't assemble the boxes first. While they are still flat, the 1092 should slide into the new 1095, since the shortest dimension on the 1092 is smaller than the shortest dimension on the 1095. Center the 1092 lengthwise inside the 1095. Then try to unfold both boxes together as a single unit. There will be stress along the 12" dimension, but the inner box should yield to the outer one, maybe the 12" inner panels curving inward a bit, since 12" can't fit within 12". But that should be ok, not too bad of a problem. Everything else should perform as usual, still some room to add a bit of padding between the surfaces. But at least you have a double wall all around.

I'd try it myself, but I don't have any of the new 1095's to check with. Maybe someone could try it and report back.
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" . " Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by poka
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
Quote:
Originally Posted by Towmater
The USPS shouldn’t be providing boxes or anything else for free. They should be charging for supplies.


It is (in theory) a way to retain or increase business. Fedex and UPS provide free boxes too.

At the end of the day it is all part of marketing expense.


All we are saying is that in many countries boxes provided by postal services are not for free. Eg I have to pay for boxes and then get a partial discount when using a new box. While UPS/FEDEX provides free boxes - they have fewer choices and for them it is included in the shipping cost - which in many cases are more expensive than USPS


The free boxes are no more “included” in Fedex and UPS’s shipping costs than they are for USPS. In all three instances they are part of the cost of retaining or capturing business.

Comparing across countries isn’t too helpful as it depends on specific competitive forces within those countries.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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The free boxes are no more “included” in Fedex and UPS’s shipping costs than they are for USPS.


I imagine USPS has factored the free box into the price of the shipping. But did they factor in 2 or more boxes for each shipment...i.e. the topic of this thread? The issue I have with the free boxes is that I've seen transit stations where they put multiple pallets of free boxes outside. Customers and non-customers alike are free to take as many as they can fit in their vehicle. I doubt UPS and Fed-Ex do it this way. I imagine the waste/abuse is a tiny percentage of total expenses, but symbolically it's a bad look for a government subsidized entity. It makes one wonder how many silly inefficiencies we are not seeing...is this just the tip of the iceberg?
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Collector BronzeAgeNerd private msg quote post Address this user
Thanks for sharing this, good to know because I use "Slab Shippers' and those will no longer fit inside these it looks like.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
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Originally Posted by poka
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
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Originally Posted by Towmater
The USPS shouldn’t be providing boxes or anything else for free. They should be charging for supplies.


It is (in theory) a way to retain or increase business. Fedex and UPS provide free boxes too.

At the end of the day it is all part of marketing expense.


All we are saying is that in many countries boxes provided by postal services are not for free. Eg I have to pay for boxes and then get a partial discount when using a new box. While UPS/FEDEX provides free boxes - they have fewer choices and for them it is included in the shipping cost - which in many cases are more expensive than USPS


The free boxes are no more “included” in Fedex and UPS’s shipping costs than they are for USPS. In all three instances they are part of the cost of retaining or capturing business.

Comparing across countries isn’t too helpful as it depends on specific competitive forces within those countries.


Indeed it is very useful to comparing across countries as it shows the future of the postal services where USA unfortunately is a bit behind. furthermore, you will have the same couriers competing against the postal services in most developed countries.
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Collector poka private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Davethebrave
The free boxes are no more “included” in Fedex and UPS’s shipping costs than they are for USPS.


I imagine USPS has factored the free box into the price of the shipping. But did they factor in 2 or more boxes for each shipment...i.e. the topic of this thread? The issue I have with the free boxes is that I've seen transit stations where they put multiple pallets of free boxes outside. Customers and non-customers alike are free to take as many as they can fit in their vehicle. I doubt UPS and Fed-Ex do it this way. I imagine the waste/abuse is a tiny percentage of total expenses, but symbolically it's a bad look for a government subsidized entity. It makes one wonder how many silly inefficiencies we are not seeing...is this just the tip of the iceberg?


Yes - we remember the pic from last time this topic was discussed 10 months ago


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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@BronzeAgeNerd

The slab shippers sales guy said it will work kinda. It will just stick out. I imagine it will be kinda like his magazine slab in the 1095 where a part of the box is exerted past the pre-folds.

On the bright side more slab shippers can fit inside the mailing box that used to do the 25 count. "I think" 33 is the new number.

Edit

Here is copy paste of email


The new kits are ready and working great.

We were able to fit 33 of the new kits into the same boxes that we are using to ship. This will actually be a good thing as the shipping cost per kit will come down.

33 x 1.50 =$49.50 plus shipping.

Let me know how many boxes you want and I’ll get the PayPal invoice sent out to you. I can send them out tomorrow.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
@poka I was searching for that picture but I must have deleted it. Glad you found it. I think it's smarter to make people have some skin in the game. Even if it was just a 50 cent box charge that is credited towards the purchase of the shipping when they get used. As they say, things that a free may encounter unlimited demand. It would be interesting to see how many pre-printed free USPS boxes go through the postal system each year vs. how many they produce and give out. It could be a significant difference, or it could be that concerns of abuse are over-blown.
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