Whats worth more? Newstand or Direct edition16384
 I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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| Im just curious. Have some valuable stuff that are newstand and some are direct | ||
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| Depends on the book and who you’re selling to. Before a certain date most books were newsstand copies so they were the more common versions. After a certain date newsstands are less common. | ||
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| thats what I thought. personally as a collector dont care but I can see why some would | ||
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| Mark Jewelers | ||
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
| . Canadian Newsstand editions are ultra rare. |
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 Where's his Bat-package?
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| As soon as you get past the 80's, the ratio of newsstand-to-direct plummets, so a lot of people want those books, but some folks just like collecting newsstand editions in general because even when they were more readily available (70s & 80s), they were often beat up or tossed out because they were usually purchased by people who were not serious collectors. @Masochism is so right, though. Books with Mark Jewelers inserts are always hard to find and always in demand. | ||
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 Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures.
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| I don't get the fascination with Mark jewelers inserts. | ||
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sly private msg quote post Address this user | |
| CANADIAN PRICE VARIANTS are also newsstand books. These are first prints and USD published books (not foreign!). These are scarcer than US newsstands and direct editions. They also get more money when sold but it will depend on the issue as well as the grade being bought. Don’t assume that books after 1985 are always scarcer. Each issue must be looked at separately regardless if it was issued before or after 1985!!! |
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Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @sly Also correct! I have so few CPV books. It'd be fun to have more, but they really are pricey! Quote: Originally Posted by brysb It's the rarity for a lot of people, I'm sure. Right there with collecting 30- and 35-cent cover price variants. |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @power_struggle55 - It is a real good question and unfortunately the answers from a market value to theoretical value don't always jive. Most typically, Moderns of late 80's to current are probably correctly valued lower as they reflect a higher percentage of the market share. As such, one might think that since there were so many more Newsstands than direct copies of a particular issue produced in the late 70's through mid-80's that direct would carry a higher value. But with especially with High Grade issues, that doesn't end up being the case. But while that may ultimately end up being the case in the future, it doesn't seem to be the case now, most likely due to the perception that direct sold comics way back then were handled more carefully by the LCS and end consumer. Which, might suggest that a higher percentage of the smaller sample of Direct attain higher grades and a lower percentage of the newsstands form back then are able to attain high grades. Maybe, as more bronze and copper age newsstand comics are pressed that changes the value disparity in the future. As a very young collector when Direct editions first started coming out, I gravitated towards them because I had an irrational disdain for barcodes and the number/date block. Hated the direct with slashed bar code. Liked the number/date diamond with Spidey head in the barcode box. Still do and blows me away that a King Conan #1 direct sells for less than a newsstand when there were so fewer direct of that issue produced. |
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It's essentially putting a premium on the distribution method. When I'm buying, I don't particularly care whether one is a direct edition or newsstand. In the rare case I hunt down newsstand copies of a particular issue, I may be inclined to put a slight increase in what I'm willing to pay but not much. It really comes down to personal preference. The die hard newsstand collectors apparently have that Saudi oil money to throw around as evidenced by this ridiculous sale: I do find high grade newsstands kinda cool, at least after the 90s. That said, newsstand copies are doodoo compared to high grade pence and Canadian price variants  |
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sly private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Read about the SCARCITY of CPV's at the new 2022 Canadian Price Variant Guide. It was released not long ago and gets updated each year. www.cpvpriceguide.com |
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 Hello, my name is Stu and I'm a shill.
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck Even in Canada? |
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| @HexView I’ve often wondered that! One LCS I frequent tends to have a good amount of CPV back issues, the owner either doesn’t know or doesn’t care to differentiate in price between CPV or US. | ||
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| I remember when the big distinction between direct sale and newsstand occurred. Primarily with Image. The direct had a much better quality paper and didn't have that huge bar code on the front. Because of that, I tended to stray away from newsstand. I was actually a little surprised when I saw that they had actually become highly collectable to some people. I'm not one to judge, though. | ||
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| Canadian Price Variants need to be in higher grades and must be (most often) issues that people seek as direct editions as well. I find CPV’s at my local shop but the grades are not great or they might be issues that people don’t seek but in higher grades. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by bythegram And... where is this store...?  |
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| I don’t see any value in CPV books. I had / have them (growing up in Canada). I think there is some false hope / hype around them similar to other false-scarcity differentiators. For lower supply to “mean something” to price there must be some demand too. It reminds me of ugly colors for some cars getting temporary hype during bubbles because “oooh the brown on puke on burgundy was only ordered 3 times for that model”… well, yeah, cuz noone wanted it. Who cares. If rare and somehow meaningfully different (manual transmission cars vs auto-manuals when they became the rage)… sure. CPV for comics? Makes no sense. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by sly Sounds like an unbiased source. Manufactured hype to try and drive demand for a “who cares” slice of the market. Repeating yet more bad trends for the hobby we saw in the 90s. |
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| @Davethebrave you are definitely entitled to your own opinion, it's a free world. However, facts speak louder than opinions, take note that many key Canadian Price Variants have been selling for very high premiums over the last 5-6 years (hardly a fad if I may add!). Please don't take my word for it, ask those buying and selling them. Look at GPA and E-Bay sales for CPV's, it's there for everyone to see. For example, days ago a Blip #1 (probably in fine range) sold for about $750usd! This is one of hundreds (yes hundreds) of record prices that took place over the last few years. This means that DEMAND is very much ALIVE and GROWING. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Don’t forget about those overhyped 35¢ variants. |
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I don't mind the price variants. Some of you know my love for UK price variants, and I am currently working on a few sets of CPV titles. Pain in the scrotum to find some in decent condition and when I do, they go for a premium. Like that Dakota North #1 9.8 CPV I have whenever homegirl hits the MCU  |
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| @Studley_Dudley Personally, I think the UK price variants should be getting respect the way the CPVs do. UK variants are not 2nd prints; they were printed at the same time as the original US printings with just the cover price block swapped out, and like CPV, UKPVs had far smaller print runs. | ||
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| I’ll have to find it; there is a break down of market percentages of Direct vs Newsstands. Mid-Late 70s Is about a 90% newsstand market. It evens out 50/50 mid 80s then Newsstands decline to about 10% early 90s, then nearly non existent from 2000-2010. What can drive a premium on a Key issue newsstand is scarcity in high grade. A newsstand copy is also less likely to survive in higher grades due to how they were displayed and/or how that clientele handled it; because of this a buyer may pay a premium for a 9.4/9.6/9.8 Newsstand ASM 300. On the other had; a buyer may place a premium on either for sake of continuity in their collection. For example Thor 337 should exist with a fairly equal ratio. One may be willing to pay more for the Direct copy over the same grade newsstand because the rest of the run in their collection are Direct copies or visa-versa. Let me know If that’s not confusing enough. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash You make sense to me! Yeah, as I understand it, in the 80's was when the ratio of newsstand-to-direct was closer to 50/50, with a few things tipping the scales in favour of newsstand rarity, like the way they were displayed and handled, and also that any unsold copies were destroyed when the vendors sent them back or tore off the covers so they could get refunded. Direct vendors couldn't get refunds, so unsold copies wound up in cheapie boxes. |
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| I had never paid mutch attention before, but in going through my collection over the last couple of years and specifically noting if it's a newsstand, I've realized I actually have quite a few and no idea when or where I acquired them. | ||
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| The first implementation of a Direct Edition designation is the “strike through” barcode. This was used to identify true Newsstand copies that were being returned for credit where as Specialty shops got special pricing in lieu of returns for credit. This “eliminated” fraud of sellers buying each other’s unsold copies at a discount and returning for credit at a profit. Edit: at the same time one should have seen the barcode on newsstands vs all copies only having a cover price.  |
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| You know what - I agree with prior posts on CPV. I like it and will be willing to pay a premium for sure. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave I'm sensing that this post is coming from a biased source  |
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