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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
@JustinMabooty Your "2-Day" question was not sincere. It was passive-aggressive. The response was appropriate given the intent of your question.

Defending company: We're a community here of like minded individuals so its difficult to ignore newbies that come here for what appears to be the sole purpose of disruption and venting. We don't want them to necessarily be gone in a week or two we'd like them to be part of this in a contributing and positive way.

You're referring to @Jesse_O who is a huge asset to the forum and has helped tons of forum members (myself included) with issues regarding submissions etc, so with all due respect, you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Collector JustinMabooty private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC

Even a thoughtful critique and suggestions on how to improve customer experiences here in the forums is dismissed as me having no idea what I'm talking about. Thank you for proving my point.

And again, no one new to the forums knows that the person you're talking about is a valuable asset to the community. All they see is a moderator with a Mephisto avatar. Try looking at things from outside your own perspective for a moment and maybe you'll have a better understanding of what I'm saying.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
In regards to the mephisto avatar being professional or not. It is a comic book avatar in a comic book forum. What matters is the person does their job and in this case he does it well. And I've even been suspended from the forums by this moderator.

If we were to judge folks by their avatars or usernames, yours I would be more offended by than mephisto.
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Collector JustinMabooty private msg quote post Address this user
@Bronte

Right. And I'm just some jackass random, not a moderator.

And this will be my last comment. The "2 day" question I asked wasn't passive-aggressive. It was a legitimate question and demonstrates how screwed up and insignificant CBCS feels the stated TATs are.

As an example, I subbed books in June to have back in time for Hawkeye, Cowboy Bebop and Book of Boba Fett. There was a 17 week stated TAT when I subbed them. I realize TATs are an estimate but if I had any idea they would be taking 32+ weeks, I'd have done a quicker tier.
While I understand that CBCS is swamped, my frustration is only compounded when I see that the current TAT on the website says 25 weeks when it clearly is not. It shows a lack of seriousness and consideration for their customers when they post obviously inaccurate info.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
@JustinMabooty

I have no qualms with your other arguments. I see and understand to a point the frustration you and others have.

However, in regards to the avatar, it is an expression of what he likes. It's like the color red. I'm not a fan. However it's their right to express themselves how they feel. If in the workplace said no red is allowed, that is ridiculous. While you may have some type of point in your posts, in MY OPINION, when you start pulling random stuff out of the air to try and solidify your point you literally are giving less credibility to your argument. As some might say, stick to the facts.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
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@GAC

If you scroll up, you can see that I asked why a submission that takes 2 weeks is still referred to as a "2 day" and one of them explained to me what two days is. It's condescending stuff like that which is really unnecessary and just furthers arguments and tension. There's also a lot of dismissing of concerns by vets just because they've seen it all. Well the new person hasn't seen it before so dismissing them doesn't help anything.
I understand the desire to defend the company, but who cares? If you've got 30,000k upvotes on your comments and some brand new member with no history criticizes the company, ignore it. Chances are they'll be gone in a week or two or once they get their comics back anyway. Trying to go after every little comment seems petty and just further exacerbates the issue by having others chime in as well.
I think it would help a lot if the forums had designated community members to help and answer questions. They could have a title and/or avatar that expresses this so people know they can be listened to and trusted. If people are expected to come to the forums to find answers, this would help. Especially if there was a section just for this where only designated people could respond. Instead it's the Wild West where everyone weighs in from 10 year forum vets to brand new members when responding to a new member's question so it would be nice to know who to take seriously or not.
And the only one with a moderator title here that I've seen is the guy with the Mephisto avatar. It definitely doesn't express impartiality or professionalism.
@JustinMabooty - Fact is, your 2 Day “question” was the very condescending and unnecessary stuff that you referenced in the post above. I gave you a polite explanation and response that opened the door for the revelation that you were in-fact trolling which you indeed confirmed with your reply.

I have not seen forum vets here $#!+ on people unless said person has been seen to be purposely trolling, posting sketchy, questionable, and/or baseless content.
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Here are my remaining orders from 2021.

I will try and come back here and update /inform everyone of movement.

We cannot, obviously, predict when every single order will be back. Still, I hope this will help ease some of the tension as we can get an idea of when things "MIGHT" realistically be back.

2021 Orders: (each Shipped a few days after the order date below. Add a week for TAT)

21-0F4A78A (3/17/21) (Press & Grade) Status: Labels (no change for 2 or 3 months) - Qty:32

21-16F7F4E (4/24/21) (Press & Grade) Status: Submitted - Qty:40

21-274483D (7/14/21) (Tynion Signing + Press + Grade) Status: Billing (no balance)- Qty:14

21-28A1C60 (7/21/21) (Tynion Signing + Press + Grade) Status: Billing (no balance) - Qty:3

21-34E2D3D (9/20/21) (Fast Press & Fast Grade) Status: Submitted - Qty: 80

Quick Note: Everything before the September Order had a TAT of 8 Months or less with Press and Grade.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Thank goodness for press screen!! I already have a feeling one of mine won't pass but I felt it was worth a shot .
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Collector mattness private msg quote post Address this user
Just wanted to share my last experience. 3 Art label & 1 slab only with VSP, mailed to CBCS July 10, 2021 Books arrived back home Jan 14, 2022
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Collector dameki private msg quote post Address this user
44 weeks in for 16 books press screen no fast pass or fast press and one book VSP. Books have been in labels since end of November. Makes it hard not to check every day on status when I'm this close to getting them back. At least with all this waiting some of the books will be worth more if they graded well enough.
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Collector DVSCHO private msg quote post Address this user
Man my stuffs been in labels since September 9th, submitted June 20th. I’m getting impatient 😂. I did get a response that was basically saying “hey we’re behind”, yea I’m tracking that. All I suggest is when someone tells you at a con during submission that they have never submitted comics before you should explain to them that if they want their books back sooner they can pay more money. I would have since I want s these back and they are just for me I’m not some comic flipper or store trying to make a quick buck, I just would have paid a premium had I known that was an option.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Not sure if I missed it; or when it changed - but CBCS pressing is now (essentially) a 1 year TAT?

So a press & grade on a Modern book submission is now, total, between 1.5 to 1.7 year TAT?
I think we all need to amend our Wills to include books in pressing/grading, because not sure of our fates in close to 2 years.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
I just saw the update. My book didn't even go out yet....
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Probably going to sit on those until maybe the time changes.
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Collector CatCovers private msg quote post Address this user
It's been in the last two weeks. It was significantly shorter than that when I dropped off submissions two weeks ago.

I only dropped off a couple dozen books, so don't blame me for the increase.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
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It's been in the last two weeks. It was significantly shorter than that when I dropped off submissions two weeks ago.

I only dropped off a couple dozen books, so don't blame me for the increase.


It's just the times man, until it changes; it's gonna be this way for awhile.
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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Not sure if I missed it; or when it changed - but CBCS pressing is now (essentially) a 1 year TAT?

So a press & grade on a Modern book submission is now, total, between 1.5 to 1.7 year TAT?
I think we all need to amend our Wills to include books in pressing/grading, because not sure of our fates in close to 2 years.


holly sh!t - I missed that too - guess my Nov orders won't be back for quite a while.

aaaannnnddddd....no more submissions for quite a while either (unless strictly for my personal collection)

on the bright side - I'll save money by not sending books for grading?
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
maybe they need to do like some of the card grading companies - shut down some tiers or all submissions for a while
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
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maybe they need to do like some of the card grading companies - shut down some tiers or all submissions for a while


It seems like it's only the pressing; not the grading (in relative terms). So maybe hiring of professionals pressers/ new equipment or farming out the work. 26 or more weeks is rough for grading; but 1 year for pressing is ... yea... ummm... abysmal
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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maybe they need to do like some of the card grading companies - shut down some tiers or all submissions for a while


It seems like it's only the pressing; not the grading (in relative terms). So maybe hiring of professionals pressers/ new equipment or farming out the work. 26 or more weeks is rough for grading; but 1 year for pressing is ... yea... ummm... abysmal


seems like I need to find a 3rd party presser!!
Just tried a local guy - was ok...thought some could have been better - but $15 CAD can't be beat
There are a few decent others named over the years - CFP , Avery, Hero Restoration etc.....or....buy a machine and try my hand at it??(at least for just small easy defects?)
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@KatKomics @ComicNinja0215 @ComicNinja0215 @Nuffsaid111 - Hear me out before pooh poohing. It is my supposition that CBCS has made this move on the Press side of the equation in response to cgc latest announcement of an additional price increase plus the $199 dealer fee. CBCS changed the Press TAT's either late Thursday 13th or early Friday 14th (I know because I check for updated TAT's pretty much every weekday morning-OCD much?). In the days following both announcements, there has been a flurry of social media posts from both dealer and non-dealer types with the 'I'm done with cgc' content. As such, I suspect that CBCS had in the days after the announcements already seen a new and greater spike in both legitimate dealer applications and submissions being entered online.

Grading and Pressing are very different. CBCS can throw overtime man-hours at grading and additionally, it looks as though they were already training new graders who can ramp up in the coming weeks. With Pressing, unfortunately, throwing OT man-hours would yield minimal results as you cannot speed up the pressing process unless you can also increase the amount of press units in operation. Even then, you have to first wait for the new units to come in (who knows how long that would take with supply chain issues) and you have to have the space for such (probably not an issue anymore since move from FL to TX). Even if you add more units, it takes exponentially more time to press than grade thousands of comics.
With the speculation market as is, dealers and speculators are going to be much more apt to have a comic pressed, I suspect, to squeeze out the 0.2 - 1.? grade bump to that 9.4-9.8 level that commands higher dollars. Even a lot of collectors want the 9.something run in the permanent collections.

Bottom line, I suspect that the TAT on my May - Sept Press submissions did not actually increase to a year and a half. However, as the vast majority of those submissions were basic modern or expanded, they may actually end up increasing to that point if CBCS receiving a whole new batch of prolific 1 day, 2 day, Rapid, Quicksteam, and Fast Press submitters. Per my supposition above, this could indeed be the case. If it is, that is ultimately a good thing for all of us that are CBCS clients.

To the above I finish with saying I hope @SteveRicketts and the CBCS Press Corps are in good health and may the force be with them.
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Collector waynemel private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
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Originally Posted by KatKomics
maybe they need to do like some of the card grading companies - shut down some tiers or all submissions for a while


It seems like it's only the pressing; not the grading (in relative terms). So maybe hiring of professionals pressers/ new equipment or farming out the work. 26 or more weeks is rough for grading; but 1 year for pressing is ... yea... ummm... abysmal


seems like I need to find a 3rd party presser!!
Just tried a local guy - was ok...thought some could have been better - but $15 CAD can't be beat
There are a few decent others named over the years - CFP , Avery, Hero Restoration etc.....or....buy a machine and try my hand at it??(at least for just small easy defects?)



Yeah...3rd party is the way to go but most that I have found/used has about a 4-6 month wait..still better than what is stated at CBCS.

FYI, my May submission had some press and got word through the forums (no notifications or updates to my account) that it was completed in November so the wait for grading continues.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
On the happier side, got the "your order is in grading" email. It's a regular-speed expanded/modern order with pressing from the end of April.
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Collector dameki private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Scifinator
@KatKomics @ComicNinja0215 @ComicNinja0215 @Nuffsaid111 - Hear me out before pooh poohing. It is my supposition that CBCS has made this move on the Press side of the equation in response to cgc latest announcement of an additional price increase plus the $199 dealer fee. CBCS changed the Press TAT's either late Thursday 13th or early Friday 14th (I know because I check for updated TAT's pretty much every weekday morning-OCD much?). In the days following both announcements, there has been a flurry of social media posts from both dealer and non-dealer types with the 'I'm done with cgc' content. As such, I suspect that CBCS had in the days after the announcements already seen a new and greater spike in both legitimate dealer applications and submissions being entered online.

Grading and Pressing are very different. CBCS can throw overtime man-hours at grading and additionally, it looks as though they were already training new graders who can ramp up in the coming weeks. With Pressing, unfortunately, throwing OT man-hours would yield minimal results as you cannot speed up the pressing process unless you can also increase the amount of press units in operation. Even then, you have to first wait for the new units to come in (who knows how long that would take with supply chain issues) and you have to have the space for such (probably not an issue anymore since move from FL to TX). Even if you add more units, it takes exponentially more time to press than grade thousands of comics.
With the speculation market as is, dealers and speculators are going to be much more apt to have a comic pressed, I suspect, to squeeze out the 0.2 - 1.? grade bump to that 9.4-9.8 level that commands higher dollars. Even a lot of collectors want the 9.something run in the permanent collections.

Bottom line, I suspect that the TAT on my May - Sept Press submissions did not actually increase to a year and a half. However, as the vast majority of those submissions were basic modern or expanded, they may actually end up increasing to that point if CBCS receiving a whole new batch of prolific 1 day, 2 day, Rapid, Quicksteam, and Fast Press submitters. Per my supposition above, this could indeed be the case. If it is, that is ultimately a good thing for all of us that are CBCS clients.

To the above I finish with saying I hope @SteveRicketts and the CBCS Press Corps are in good health and may the force be with them.


Pressing for my March order finished in June comics are still in labels since November. I did go with a press screen so some or none of my books may have actually been pressed/cleaned. With current TAT listed for grading I'm over by a week right now but I understand that there was also the holiday season to account for so if you subtract a week for those days then I'd be on schedule if I received my books today. The last time I sent books in was Sep 2018 and it took about 6 months to get them back even after sending them to FL for pressing. I know the CBCS team are great at what they do and I wish them the best and hope that these prolonged TAT start to fall soon. At least they can say business is booming.
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I'm good with splotches. Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
I hope a plan is put into place for that unfortunate 1 year pressing TAT.
All business are hit with unforeseen challenges.
Temporary hits happen and seemed to have happened here with Pressing which doubled the time

I just hope it doesn't lay idle at 1 year and accepted as an acceptable timeframe going forward.
That would not be a good thing.
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Collector Comjon private msg quote post Address this user
It is now 7 months for two books smh nothing has changed on my invoice. Still only in sub status.
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Collector timberghost private msg quote post Address this user
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44 weeks in for 16 books press screen no fast pass or fast press and one book VSP. Books have been in labels since end of November. Makes it hard not to check every day on status when I'm this close to getting them back. At least with all this waiting some of the books will be worth more if they graded well enough.

What comes after labels, where my march orders seem to be vacationing.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@timberghost - most typically one would see shipping next. But, technically, heat seal, encasement, and QC are in between Labels & Shipping. Most of the time one doesn’t see those, though.
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Collector Happyfacecomics private msg quote post Address this user
After labels they go to a small island called “frustration island” where they have all u can eat buffets and lounge chairs for your slabs - then if they want to leave the island - they will get shipped to you from there - usually 6-8 weeks later
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Collector DVSCHO private msg quote post Address this user
@Happyfacecomics so what happens when your stuff has been in labels for 19 weeks 🤔. Is this like an extended stay packaged for VIP members? Or did my comics get stranded on a carnival cruise?
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