Help--Grade reduction due to damage16292
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving..Below you'll see 4 books returned damaged from outside pressing. I've sent them for grading but would like to get your opinion as to what you think the daamage will cost me in point reduction. (ex. .5, 1, 1.5 etc) If the before is a 5 what would the after be? I appreciate your input. It looks like the after pictures came out first ASM6 lower left,,ASM13 lower staple,,FF50 lower left corner and FF52 top left corner...Thanks.        |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yikes. Did you get references on this guy first? Hope he made up for it... |
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Had a good recommendation..got my fee back but I'm sure it's cost me more. | ||
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| . Looks like the ASM #6 took some spine damage too. |
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| you're right..didn't notice it...any overall suggestions would be appreciated, if anyone had this happen to them | ||
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 I'm a #2.
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BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Have them graded and Chalk it up to a learning experience | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by tonyz58 You need to make others aware. He's taking money to do something he clearly doesn't know how to do. |
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 I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Im new to the idea of pressing and I even can tell thats a super bad press. let others know. warn them. if it was 1 issue....mistakes but 4! | ||
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @power_struggle55 Exactly. After the first one, presser should have known something was wrong. No quality control before moving on to the next one? May have even pressed them all at once. |
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Work done by D Shafer at Comicbook pressing service in Edmond , OK | ||
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
I have posted this before but the before/after photos show their work approach. Seems like they are pretty honest! |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @tonyz58 - You should probably send in to CBCS with a press screen. If @SteveRicketts can rehabilitate, he will if great likelihood of problems persisting, they will forego pressing. | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Davethebrave let's see if anyone else picks up on it the second time. Maybe they have a small press and fold it in half. | ||
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator Not sure if CBCS pressing can help. |
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Captain is right. Got this guy from Gocollect. I'm just am old collector so my choices are limited to what I get off the web via youtube videos etc. Gocollect recommended Josh Avery,Dee,Basement and Hero restoration,,all of whom did good work...And John from CB detailing warned me not to press 3 of the books I sent him to prevent further damage...Good guy..So how else to vette future pressers? I like CBCS but they are swamped. I've used them B4 and will do so again but now pressing adds another 8 months ..So I go outside to relieve the pressure. many thanks to you all.. | ||
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Is it within the possibilty he switched up your books with others and kept the nicer ones you had? A few of those look like they arent even the same book | ||
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Darkseid_of_town they are definitely the same books Well, same books, just slightly worse grades :-/ |
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| yeah I am not so sure, myself. | ||
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Maybe my vision (or screen) is just a bit better? In fairness, for much of my life I had 20/15 vision ;-) Took me about 5 seconds to catch distinct marks on all the books that would be difficult (and pointless) to forge. |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_townI actually thought the same thing. Upon further examination; they are the same books. There are condition issues that would be difficult to duplicate (I don’t think impossible). The ASM 6 for example has dust shadows, water damage and a date stamp that match up. maybe a self respecting crook would send you a nicer looking replica instead to keep you coming back  |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| BTW - it is a very different thing to call out a failed service that may have caused damage (and was refunded) vs. alleging fraud and/or theft. Very different. |
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CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
| . If I take my vehicle to the car wash and it rips off the side mirrors, I’m gonna want more than the $9.99 wash fee back. |
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck exactly. they de-valued the comic. he had: 1st appearance of black panther 1st appearance of Lizard 1st appearance of mysterio all valuable especially with the movies. silver surfer one isnt 1st appearance but its still old so worth money. this could be something you could take to small claims court. the value on those 3 1st appearances could warrent it. its not a matter of letting the world know....and way more money then just your money back. you might have had a 7.0 and made one a 4.5 (could be wrong but still) devaluing greatly |
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| Not sure if it qualifies, but do you have comic book insurance? | ||
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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out.
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power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| write nasty reviews to let the world know pre screen the grades currently. show an expert before images, ask based on the cover what grade could be check value of pre screen grade and expert grade. tell the presser to give the difference plus refund....or you'll sue |
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebraveor maybe yours is worse...in fairness for much of my life I had the ability to understand what i am seeing. If it took you five seconds, you really missed the entire point honestly. |
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmashRight but then I was not talking about those, I am more focused on things I see with the FF books in particular. |
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Small claims maybe if I weren't in NJ and he in OK | ||
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Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user | |
| well good luck regardless and I hope it sorts out to some degree. hate when this happens to hobby people ....damn shame | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave You're 100% correct. They're the same books. I guess someone could go find the same issue, with the same exact blunt corners, exact spine ticks, exact tears and exact wrinkles and swap them out but what are the odds for all 4 books? 2 or 3? ...easy. But all 4 ?  |
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