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I like to spread some money around on multiples of lower priced spec books. Kind of like a Roulette table in Vegas, just looking for one or two to increase in value enough to cover the once that don't pop. I'm curious of these books, which ones (you can choose more than one) would you feel best about having your money on:

First Nuke



First Omega Red



First Tombstone



First Shotgun




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First Blink





First Firestorm


First Ronin


First Jason Rouche Firestorm

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Collector Stardust_Memories private msg quote post Address this user
Well, if they can get the spawn cinematic universe going and be a success that's where I'd lay my bet.
But a safer bet would be anything X-Men
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
I have to agree with Stardust, Disney will figure out their version of X-Men, and the watching public is very familiar with the franchise.
The 2099 series is also interesting. There have been quite a few 2099 editions with various characters. Be a real long term bet though.
DC, that’ll likely burn you.
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I have New Avengers 11 as most likely to pop soonest. They have already announced that Echo will in some way assume the Ronin role at some point in the Netflix series.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
Fairly healthy debate as to if that is the first Omega red or no...not something I care to debate, but there is contention
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Collector Briten private msg quote post Address this user
I like X-Men #4, but the fact that it came out in the early 90's when comics were super hot and people were collecting them anticipating future value scares me.

That said, I'm sure you could get an uncanny 317 for practically nothing. Generating next wasn't great (as I recall), but with the film industry trending toward diversity across the spectrum, someone could latch onto the property and create a very appealing superhero team.
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X-Men 4 has already popped, to a certain extent, just based on Black Widow hype (which didn't pan out) and general X-Men hype. Similar with New Avengers 11, I think, between Endgame and now Echo (although I haven't been keeping an eye on prices for that one as much). New Avengers isn't really a first appearance though, so I think it's more limited. Firestorm and Nuke have already been on TV shows, Shazam has already had a movie. A lot of these have already had moments.

In terms of which will have a moment again, there's another Shazam movie coming, so it'll probably see a bump. Omega might show up when they get to the X-Men, and maybe Nuke again when Daredevil spins back around, so they seem reasonable. They're supposed to be working on a Spawn movie but it's down the pike.

I think most of those could see at least a temporary spike at some point. The ones I *don't* would be the other Firestorm (never heard of him, and why would they start with him instead of the original?), Spidey 375 (is that just the first appearance of Brock's ex-wife?), and Shotgun (I appreciate the running joke though).
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What is the rationale to pay big $ for a movie “bump” when it falls back down?

Do people just not like $ anymore? I understand for:
1) enduring characters being reconfirmed or rediscovered by new generations
2) highlighting forgotten characters
3) establishing characters with a wider audience

But to have the bump endure that new character needs to sustain its relevance. For books with very low supply then any reinvigoration or highlighting could have enduring value because so little is out there to satisfy that collecting desire.

So I guess movie bumps are mostly just greater fool and a bunch of fools out there are willing to overpay?

I choose whichever book has the lowest print run combined with whatever character has the best chance of being enduring and is not already wildly overvalued vs supply. So Firestorm or Shazam.

Revision: I would choose for speculation anything that the majority of posters say is best ;-) bandwagon!

Full disclosure, I have a Spawn #1 somewhere so would prefer it be that book :-)
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
Spawn 1 was one of the most overproduced single issue comic books ever released though.....there are ALOT of them out there
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TL;DR Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
@Darkseid_of_town exactly. Even -I- have a copy
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Regarding Spawn, I was phasing out my comic book collecting starting around 1986 (got married) and pretty much stopped buying books by 1990/1991. A year or 2 later, one of my comic book friends told me I had to get in on Spawn. So I went to a dealer and bought the first 4 issues for about $100. I think I could buy those same issues today for $100. Crappy investment, I could have bought multiple copies of GS X-Men 1, Hulk 181, ASM 129, etc for that amount at that time. That is probably the reason why I have never been a Spawn fan.
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Last night while looking at some comic descriptions I came across Madcap for the first time. I guess I'm late to the party, looks like he's rumored for Deadpool 3 and Cap 307 is sold out at MCS.
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So I guess movie bumps are mostly just greater fool and a bunch of fools out there are willing to overpay?


It certainly has the feel of a Pyramid scheme, doesn't it? While most tumble quickly, some last for quite a while and a few turn out to be legitimate multi-level marketing. With still more money to be made no matter how late to the game you are.

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I choose whichever book has the lowest print run combined with whatever character has the best chance of being enduring and is not already wildly overvalued vs supply. So Firestorm or Shazam

I think Shazam was a notoriously high print run. Firestorm, on the other hand, is an actual legitimate first appearance, not just "silver age first" or "bronze age first".

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The ones I *don't* would be the other Firestorm (never heard of him, and why would they start with him instead of the original?)

Jason Rouche is more of a diversity play on the Firestorm character.
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@EbayMafia sounds like Firestorm it is.

Well - not really, but…

As for Shazam print run, I should have specified “relative” and then said “to something like Spawn #1”…
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Made me look at what I gambled on many years ago, buying multiples.
Preacher, Turok, Spawn 1 and Dreadstar, fairly bad bets. Madame Xanadu, that Shazam 1, Eternals 1, ok bets.
Warlock keys, She Hulk. A pile of Static #1 Really good bets. Like throwing darts. They were all pretty cheap. The winners easily paid for the losers.
I suspect you can’t lose if you buy several to spec on.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
Blink's popularity was just that. If you blinked, you missed it.
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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
Shotgun. All day, every day.
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Made me look at what I gambled on many years ago, buying multiples.
Preacher, Turok, Spawn 1 and Dreadstar, fairly bad bets. Madame Xanadu, that Shazam 1, Eternals 1, ok bets.
Warlock keys, She Hulk. A pile of Static #1 Really good bets. Like throwing darts. They were all pretty cheap. The winners easily paid for the losers.
I suspect you can’t lose if you buy several to spec on.


So yeah, that's basically what I'm referring to as Comic Book Roulette. Pick the 10 or so numbers that you like the best and buy multiples. Some I picked because I like their odds, some I picked because they were only $2-$3 each. But it's better than Roulette because your chips stay on the table after each spin of the wheel, so time is on your side.
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My best multiple purchase book was probably Hulk 180. I was so convinced that the market would realize the gap between 180 and 181 was too wide and should narrow. I've owned 6 of these books (5 are pictured) at the same time. Ive sold 4 to finance other books.


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I like Tombstone as one that could potentially pop, and I like Shazam as a safe long term bet that probably won't do anything surprising. Not really speculating on it but I do pick up the Jason Rusch Firestorm 1 whenever I find it in the $1 and $2 bins and up to now I have a few copies.
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Not really speculating on it but I do pick up the Jason Rusch Firestorm 1 whenever I find it in the $1 and $2 bins and up to now I have a few copies.


@jokioo check out MCS if you want more. They have uncirculated copies that they put arbitrary tight grades on, I've picked up about 20 of them at less than $3 each. Every time I buy out their listed inventory they have more listed immediately after.
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My best multiple purchase book was probably Hulk 180. I was so convinced that the market would realize the gap between 180 and 181 was too wide and should narrow. I've owned 6 of these books (5 are pictured) at the same time. Ive sold 4 to finance other books.




@GAC back in the day that was one of the under-rated books that I horded. Also Daredevil 131, Strange Tales 135, FF annual 6, Forever People 1 and Cap 117. Pretty much sold them all as they became valuable enough to have slabbed.
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Bought every copy of new gods 7 I ever found , normally for like 2-3 dollars...then the Justice league steppenwolf thing and whoosh


I buy all the copies of justice league of America 51 I see, as well as Supergirl 7, from the seventies run, Lois Lane 111, Dc superstars of magic 11,
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Blink's popularity was just that. If you blinked, you missed it.


I thought Blink was well used in Days of Future Past and thought the character had potential. Haven't seen anything since. I always wished Days of Future Past had done a scene where she jumped the body of one Sentinel into the body of another one.
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Suck it up, buttercup!! KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
For small time roulette why not Amazing Spiderman Annual #22
1st appearance of a new Ditko character - Speedball - amazingly cheap for high quality raw books - even graded 9.4's are like $80 CAD - who knows could press higher?

Went on as part of the New Warriors later as an S&M reject he was part of Thunderbolts and apparently now back to Speedball (and potentially both New Warriors and Thunderbolts could get the Disney treatment??)



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