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Collector Coldbobt private msg quote post Address this user
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And then we have the sellers, who submit books by the hundreds, but have them pre-screened for 9.8 press only. And then they sell the raw returns as perfect copies knowing they aren't, and dupe people into thinking maybe they can get a 9.8 if they buy it and submitted it themselves.

and Nuffsaid111,
Exactly ! Nuff said !


Ooof, that's shady...
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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And then we have the sellers, who submit books by the hundreds, but have them pre-screened for 9.8 press only. And then they sell the raw returns as perfect copies knowing they aren't


The thing is, often times they are. I'm not talking CBCS because I don't see these sorts of comparisons done with them but I have seen CGC crack/resubmits come back with better and worse grades. Heck, I've even seen some where the pages somehow changed color.
Some on YT have resubmitted prescreen rejects and had them come back slabbed the second time through.


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and dupe people into thinking maybe they can get a 9.8 if they buy it and submitted it themselves.


The reality is... they can.

But, as long as we buy according to photos and not the opinion of sellers, we should be good.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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But, as long as we buy according to photos and not the opinion of sellers, we should be good.

Exactly like this. And if a seller has cruddy photos, ask for better ones. If the seller refuses, DO NOT deal with that seller.
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Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures. brysb private msg quote post Address this user
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Number 2 slabs anything to get 9.8s whose inherit worth is really only in the grade.


The 9.8 frenzy is just...STUPID! I cringe when I see the spectacle of it all, especially when a 9.4 or 9.6 looks equally as great and can be had for a fraction of the price. I have some professionally graded 9.4's that look better than some professionally grades 9.8's, so...I AM NOT FALLING INTO THE HYPE! I buy my graded comics based on eye appeal, not specifically by a graded number.
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@MutantMania
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9,999,999. Collects only Batman old new dont give a crap


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9,999,999. Collects only Batman old new dont give a crap




Holy threadbump Batman!
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
Comic book grading came about for one reason...... a universally accepted grade system that allowed books to be bought, sold or traded online.

IMHO it's simply foolish to subject yourself and your books to 3rd party grading services for any other reason than the monetary value for selling them.



Today's hobby offers much more affordable and secure ways to collect and store comic books that don't involve subjecting your books to the perils of 3rd party grading.


Based on segregating everyone into just those two ridiculous groups Im a #2
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Collector Vrishnak private msg quote post Address this user
I'm a 2 as well.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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Im a #2


@BigRedOne1944 looks like you set yourself up for a moniker. Welcome to the club!

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IMHO it's simply foolish to subject yourself and your books to 3rd party grading services for any other reason than the monetary value for selling them.


I've been thinking about this, and 2-3 years ago I would have agreed. The reason to slab books is simply to increase value and liquidity. But lately I've been slabbing books to prepare them for display. I don't tend to display anything that isn't slabbed, they just sit in a box. Slabbing and getting a descriptive label seems to add an element of panache to a book that makes it more appealing for display. I've found this particularly true with older books that are in poor shape. Here's one that I slabbed for no reason other than I want to put in on a bookshelf in my office:


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Collector BooksOfRage private msg quote post Address this user
I submit my comics because I think the slabs and labels from both the major grading companies look great. If there were a DIY option that looked as nice and was more economical, I'd go that route instead.

I've looked at products from BCW and ComicSkins, but neither of those are quite comparable in my eyes in either aesthetics or price.

A lot of the comics I've submitted are neither old nor rare but they are nonetheless significant in my eyes for a variety of reasons (representations of minorities, pride, comic book adaptations of video games, my favorite cartoons as a kid, etc). I can't wait to go through the hundreds (by 2023 perhaps given current TATs) with my kid and my friends to showcase the wonderful amount of history that can be found right on the cover of each comic book.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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by 2023 perhaps given current TATs

Ouch! ...And yet true.
@EbayMafia @BooksOfRage I think slabbing books for display is great. They look fantastic and the slabs give at least some protection against exposure to light, which is key for a printed paper display item.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
I think my "Cyber Slabs" not only look nicer, but are more informative and zero to minimal cost depending on how you choose to use them.

Plus I can change the design and style anytime I want. For the cost of some nice card stock print paper I print out quality copy to display. My original book never has to be handled or exposed to any outside lighting or elements. I think that would be the ultimate protection.









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I don't want to brag, but cashiers are always checking me out. power_struggle55 private msg quote post Address this user
im a little of everything. i am eying a comic on ebay mostly cause I like the cover (do see people do that even thoughs grade smart), and is cheap (even comparing cost to get it graded). but when it comes to actually getting stuff graded. I do research.
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I award you no points! stanley_1883 private msg quote post Address this user
I slab the books that I like, I sometimes will press the books in hopes of catching a bump. I think the slabs look nice, can be displayed and at the end of the day, in the event of my demise, I would assume a loved one might research something that is “preserved” as opposed to just donating a bunch of “random comic books” and may find something good out of my passing.

Is that a 1 or 2?
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
and getting a book graded also gets you the examination for restoration, color touch, missing pages, paper mends, tear seals, trimming, and on and on. Most people entirely overlook that part
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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I slab the books that I like, I sometimes will press the books in hopes of catching a bump. I think the slabs look nice, can be displayed and at the end of the day, in the event of my demise, I would assume a loved one might research something that is “preserved” as opposed to just donating a bunch of “random comic books” and may find something good out of my passing.

Is that a 1 or 2?



That's a 2 (Grading for perceived future value)
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
I slab to show off my Drek on my computer desk.



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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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and getting a book graded also gets you the examination for restoration, color touch, missing pages, paper mends, tear seals, trimming, and on and on. Most people entirely overlook that part


All things that directly determine the monetary value of the book. I don't think they are necessarily being overlooked, as long as they pass. When they don't pass the value can be dramatically effected. All of these checks IMO are really only necessary if you intend to sell the book. Weather that be now or at some point in the future.

That's a #2
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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I slab to show off my Drek on my computer desk.




@southerncross Exactly, the slabbing adds a visual panache to the books that they simply wouldn't have if they were just in bags and boards. A non-comic person would naturally assume that each one of those books is significant in some way just by virtue of being in the slabs.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
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I slab to show off my Drek on my computer desk.




@southerncross Exactly, the slabbing adds a visual panache to the books that they simply wouldn't have if they were just in bags and boards. A non-comic person would naturally assume that each one of those books is significant in some way just by virtue of being in the slabs.


Yep, they don't bend and if they get knocked around, worse case scenario is the case gets cracked.
Though it would be hard to knock them around the desk to crack them so more then likely scratch the case
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
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and getting a book graded also gets you the examination for restoration, color touch, missing pages, paper mends, tear seals, trimming, and on and on. Most people entirely overlook that part


All things that directly determine the monetary value of the book. I don't think they are necessarily being overlooked, as long as they pass. When they don't pass the value can be dramatically effected. All of these checks IMO are really only necessary if you intend to sell the book. Weather that be now or at some point in the future.

That's a #2
yeah no..sorry. When I buy a book if I wish to confirm it's authenticity and lack of restoration I can get it done. I may never sell the book...but wanting to verify it's actual condition is important ...just because a tenous
link could be drawn to any reason for grading a book associating it with resale does not mean that is the only potential link. It's one thing to buy a punisher war journal that is realtively new and likely has nothing done...another to buy the White mountain copy to Tales of suspense 100 or a book from the Cosmic aeroplane collection where the book is older...been around and has a story knowing that story for a book in your collection may have nothing to do with resale...similar to the magazine I bought recently signed by more than a dozen artists and writers. I definitely wanted to know who signed when and why..which would help the value if I were to sell...except that I have zero intention of selling it so the monetary factor has nothing to do with it
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" . " Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
I’m apparently an outlier as I prefer the look of ungraded books.

Slabbed books can look cool too but I prefer less than more.

Having said that, I really do appreciate the encapsulation’s protection and verification. For really pricey stuff bought “today” I want to see the verification and visually inspect through photos. For books I bought off the shelf or as back issues in the 90s, slabbing is nice for preservation and almost an odd validation of how well preserved the books are.

As someone who takes good care of my things generally, it is a validation of that care.

Some of this stuff reminds me of those plastic covers for furniture.

What I do appreciate is that slabbing lets me handle my books with less concern. I am still careful -because physics- but for valuable books I appreciate the greater freedom.

I also agree for display of pricey books it is a clear choice too. While I prefer displaying raw books, I am only comfortable displaying lower value books. Mostly because of the handling process to get them in their frames and (less so) the actual risk once on display.
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All things that directly determine the monetary value of the book. I don't think they are necessarily being overlooked, as long as they pass. When they don't pass the value can be dramatically effected. All of these checks IMO are really only necessary if you intend to sell the book. Weather that be now or at some point in the future.

That's a #2

I'll have to disagree with you here. I profess that there's nothing 'wrong' with restored comic books, so long as it's professionally done, and disclosed. I value a health check-up by professionals not to determine the value of my comics, rather that they are or are not authentic. It's just a matter of being informed.
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I’m apparently an outlier as I prefer the look of ungraded books.

Bagged and boarded raw books are - without question - the cream of the crop. There is nothing to obscure your focus on the cover art alone, and nothing stopping you from peeking at its inside other than self-control.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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and getting a book graded also gets you the examination for restoration, color touch, missing pages, paper mends, tear seals, trimming, and on and on. Most people entirely overlook that part


All things that directly determine the monetary value of the book. I don't think they are necessarily being overlooked, as long as they pass. When they don't pass the value can be dramatically effected. All of these checks IMO are really only necessary if you intend to sell the book. Weather that be now or at some point in the future.

That's a #2


I have a couple books coming back for my PC with amateur color touch. I don't want any restored books in my collection, so now I have to replace them. Will I use the grade and the results of the resto check to guess a value for selling them? Yes. Did I get them graded with an eye toward selling them? No.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
and sometimes its nice to know when you get a book, if restoration or trimming is found,so you can go back to your LCS, dealer , or seller and make adjustments based on that information as well
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Whether selling or not...3rd party grading tells you exactly what you've got.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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I profess that there's nothing 'wrong' with restored comic books, so long as it's professionally done, and disclosed.

This is absolutely true. As long as restoration is fully disclosed so people can make choices based on their own preferences, there's no problem. Also, if a book is falling apart and restoration can preserve it, I think that's a good option to choose.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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and sometimes its nice to know when you get a book, if restoration or trimming is found,so you can go back to your LCS, dealer , or seller and make adjustments based on that information as well


Yep. I bought a number of books from the same seller, some of which have come back restored and some not. So now I hold my breath on the rest and have to be wary of other things they sell.
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Collector 50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user
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I’m apparently an outlier as I prefer the look of ungraded books.

Bagged and boarded raw books are - without question - the cream of the crop. There is nothing to obscure your focus on the cover art alone, and nothing stopping you from peeking at its inside other than self-control.


I know it's over kill but I like my higher dollar raw books in a 4mil mylar inside a 10mil mylar. Super sturdy and doesn't need to have a backing board so the back of the cover is also visible. They're not as sturdy as a top loader, but they're also less than half the thickness.
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