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2 types of Collectors that submit comics to CBCS16102

Collector xtraplayer private msg quote post Address this user
Number 1 slabs old, rare, valuable comics for display and protection.


Number 2 slabs anything to get 9.8s whose inherit worth is really only in the grade.


Be a 1, don't be a 2.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
There are more than two types of collectors
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
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There are more than two types of collectors


Quite a few more than two
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Collector radd76 private msg quote post Address this user
@MutantMania

3. Doesn’t slab at all (old rare valuable comics)

4. Doesn’t slab at all (but only gets perfect mint raws equal to 9.8)

5. Only buys signed books (regardless of age or value) “yellow label”

6. Only collects blanks with art or with the purpose to get original art-

7. Only buys coverless books

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9,999,999. Collects only Batman old new dont give a crap
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Collector xtraplayer private msg quote post Address this user
Sorry, i mean collectors that submit comics to CBCS.
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
There’s still more than two kinds of collectors
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xtraplayer
Number 1 slabs old, rare, valuable comics for display and protection.


Number 2 slabs anything to get 9.8s whose inherit worth is really only in the grade.

I can swing both ways.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
I'm the type who slabs books for the PC in order to protect them, but who is also a pragmatist and I'm aware that (a) I'm not going to live forever bummer and (b) comics are a great resource when expenses that are both unavoidable and unexpected come up. Like the new car I had to buy last month because my poor 21-year-old Toyota croaked in the middle of the road. When those expenses come up, it's SLABBED books that will work best to solve the problem, and if I don't want to sell off the books I'm fond of, I need to have the books I can part with slabbed, too.
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We should have the forum rate our packages. HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user

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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@xtraplayer - Gee, I and the 4,000 plus comics that I have submitted don't seem to really fit your absolute of only 2 types of collector who submit to cbcs. But then again, I am not sure if you would place Bronze, Copper, and Modern Age comics that I was buying/collecting between the late 70's and mid 90's as "old" as only a small percentage was "rare" or "valuable". If you do consider 90's as old, then I would fit in your absolute. Oh, but then there are a few dozen from the 2000's that I bought because they caught my eye and encased for protection. Surely you wouldn't consider those as old.

Sorry, but I just hate absolute statements.
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Collector Reelgee private msg quote post Address this user
Wow where do i fit in? first started because of the characters( moms loved Hot stuff,Fantastic Four), then the stories( which i love the most!Avengers Thor help me read the bible LOL),(X men learn about them when beast got fur)These days the art is better than the stories. So now, title runs, 1A's and any thats shinning OOOOh. Was trying to complete Vol 1 of Avengers, X men but they're price range too high for me to catch.But the ones i have slab so far are my favorites Wolverine limited series,#1's New Mutants,X men, any books that got sign.Wish i knew about pressing before i started slabing.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
@xtraplayer I think you've laid out two extreme ends of the spectrum. But there's a lot of room on that spectrum for other reasons to slab. I think most people purely hunting for 9.8's are more likely to submit to CGC. Not necessarily because of looser grading but because of name recognition.
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Collector Coldbobt private msg quote post Address this user
I think there's a very broad spectrum and I don't think everyone is always in one category.

I only recently started doing some slabbing this year, in most cases for older books in my collection that have intrinsic value, like Silver Age Marvel or key first appearances.

I also sent some off with almost no value like Alpha Flight 19, Starslayer 2 and so on. I tend to prefer older books in slabs as it avoids that pressure to want a 9.8

That said I am prone to the odd obsession so the thought occurred to me to get the JB Alpha Flight run in 9.8's purely as a challenge!

Having had a small number of books slabbed, about 25, I am starting to consider the wisdom of slabbing books where it's really a 9.8 or nothing from a value point of view, for example Alpha Flight 19 is hellish to get in a 9.8 so in the end I cracked and bought one.

So my journey is maybe moving more toward buying anything that I want to be a 9.8 and go back to slabbing bronze/silver as that demand disappears...
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
I slab to sell regardless of grade I'll ultimately obtain.
I like the crazy exponential amount of $$$ graded books get over their unslabbed counterpart.

All that said, I think the OP was trying to make a backhanded comment about the market driven lunacy / drive / fascination / FOMO / Whatever You Want to Call It; pertaining to Modern 9.8s.
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Collector Coldbobt private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111
I slab to sell regardless of grade I'll ultimately obtain.
I like the crazy exponential amount of $$$ graded books get over their unslabbed counterpart.

All that said, I think the OP was trying to make a backhanded comment about the market driven lunacy / drive / fascination / FOMO / Whatever You Want to Call It; pertaining to Modern 9.8s.


Yeah the market is definitely mad around those finer grade points, the price differential between a 9.6 and a 9.8 is absolutely nuts considering the real world differences between them, I strongly suspect on any given day 9.6 and a 9.8 are completely interchangeable.

The thing with modern books I suppose is that it's easier to get a 9.8 so why settle for anything less unless it is a very key/scarce book...
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" . " Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user
@Coldbobt why settle for less? Because of market pricing insanity.

Subdividing to create false scarcity through grades is similar to doing so through variant covers, upc etc

Scarcity is best measured by ISSUE scarcity and not condition scarcity.

Above are generalizations, of course.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user
Just speaking completely transparently - for me it's all about the money.
I am ecstatic when I obtain a Modern 9.8; certainly not as happy with 9.6.
It is because of the price differential that currently exists.

In actuality:
Do I think 9.6's are 9.8s? - I do.
Do I think 9.8's are 9.6s? - I do.
Do I think 9.4's are 9.6's and vice versa? - I do.
It's kinda been shown via experiments that folks have done with sub, receive, crack, re-sub, new grade. To ignore that information is burying one's head. We all know it's subjective and no use going into what subjectivity delivers for the millionth time.


But in the end I really don't care if I'm correct or not correct.
My beliefs don't count in this market.
I just tow the line now due to the dollars involved. Heck I'll sell a graded bridge if that was the market trend.
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Collector* Towmater private msg quote post Address this user
What about the collector that will press any comic to get an extra 0.5 grade out of it??
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
I know how to grade so normally I wouldn't submit books to get graded.

I do submit books that are keys, minor keys and books in grade that are worth money so if anything were to happen to me.

And my wife wants to clear out my collection. Much easier to send off slabs of value to the auction houses to get the biggest returns. 👍
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Collector peterc777 private msg quote post Address this user
I expected it to be:

1. Those who know and understand that due to certain circumstances the grading companies are swamped and they wait patiently to get updates and their books back.

2. Those who freak out a week after submitting their books because they haven't gotten any updates and/or their books back yet.
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Collector xtraplayer private msg quote post Address this user
And then we have the sellers, who submit books by the hundreds, but have them pre-screened for 9.8 press only. And then they sell the raw returns as perfect copies knowing they aren't, and dupe people into thinking maybe they can get a 9.8 if they buy it and submitted it themselves.

and Nuffsaid111,
Exactly ! Nuff said !
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Collector xtraplayer private msg quote post Address this user
I have 8 slabs and the 3 highest being 9.2s so maybe im bitter.... But i have 9 more coming, and have high hopes for Web of Spiderman #1.
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Hold your tongue and say, "I live on a pirate ship." Fads89 private msg quote post Address this user
There are three types of people - those who know how to add and those who don't.
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PLOD theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xtraplayer
Be a 1, don't be a 2.

As much as I don't like squeezing everything until it gets a 9.8, it's not cool to tell others how to appreciate the hobby.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
I look at it as....hobbyists that love and care for the hobby and others that see it purely as a money maker.
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Collector Coldbobt private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xtraplayer
And then we have the sellers, who submit books by the hundreds, but have them pre-screened for 9.8 press only. And then they sell the raw returns as perfect copies knowing they aren't, and dupe people into thinking maybe they can get a 9.8 if they buy it and submitted it themselves.

and Nuffsaid111,
Exactly ! Nuff said !


Ooof, that's shady...
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xtraplayer
And then we have the sellers, who submit books by the hundreds, but have them pre-screened for 9.8 press only. And then they sell the raw returns as perfect copies knowing they aren't


The thing is, often times they are. I'm not talking CBCS because I don't see these sorts of comparisons done with them but I have seen CGC crack/resubmits come back with better and worse grades. Heck, I've even seen some where the pages somehow changed color.
Some on YT have resubmitted prescreen rejects and had them come back slabbed the second time through.


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Originally Posted by xtraplayer
and dupe people into thinking maybe they can get a 9.8 if they buy it and submitted it themselves.


The reality is... they can.

But, as long as we buy according to photos and not the opinion of sellers, we should be good.
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Where's his Bat-package? Byrdibyrd private msg quote post Address this user
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But, as long as we buy according to photos and not the opinion of sellers, we should be good.

Exactly like this. And if a seller has cruddy photos, ask for better ones. If the seller refuses, DO NOT deal with that seller.
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Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures. brysb private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by xtraplayer

Number 2 slabs anything to get 9.8s whose inherit worth is really only in the grade.


The 9.8 frenzy is just...STUPID! I cringe when I see the spectacle of it all, especially when a 9.4 or 9.6 looks equally as great and can be had for a fraction of the price. I have some professionally graded 9.4's that look better than some professionally grades 9.8's, so...I AM NOT FALLING INTO THE HYPE! I buy my graded comics based on eye appeal, not specifically by a graded number.
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Collector dfoster43 private msg quote post Address this user
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@MutantMania
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9,999,999. Collects only Batman old new dont give a crap


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