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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
Is there a site or a way that will tell you "How many copies of a comic book were printed?" Example: AMAZING SPIDER-Man #1, 250,000 copies were printed.
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
No.
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Collector QuaBrot private msg quote post Address this user
I do believe there is someone who has worked on this - not sure if I read about it in the front of Overstreet or somewhere else. I will try to look it up when I get home tonight (if I remember)
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Collector Despain private msg quote post Address this user
Here you go: Comichron
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Collector QuaBrot private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Despain
Here you go: Comichron


That's it! Thanks!
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Collector Despain private msg quote post Address this user
@QuaBrot You're welcome. 👍🏻
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Despain
Here you go: Comichron


Thank you Despain!! This is great!!
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
To whoever sent me the Ebay message: thanks. Don't care. Some comics do not publicly list their print runs so suck it.
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
That is a site that lists estimated preorders from stores. Not a valid for sure print run of comics. I question some of you who contact me outside this forum like pansies who are afraid to show themselves. Keyboard warriors. Pfft.
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Collector Despain private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
That is a site that lists estimated preorders from stores. Not a valid for sure print run of comics. I question some of you who contact me outside this forum like pansies who are afraid to show themselves. Keyboard warriors. Pfft.


Are you directing this at me?
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Collector QuaBrot private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
That is a site that lists estimated preorders from stores. Not a valid for sure print run of comics. I question some of you who contact me outside this forum like pansies who are afraid to show themselves. Keyboard warriors. Pfft.


Kaptain, not sure what your standards are, but there is a guy who makes a historical count of comics published, to the best of his ability. Not sure why you are getting so hot and bothered about it. You don't agree with the numbers, thats your prerogative. Doesn't negate that there is a site out there doing it.
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
No I care more about the a-holes who contacted me via ebay messages from THIS forum like a coward that's all.

Besides I never said I disagreed with anyone's numbers.
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Collector zosocane private msg quote post Address this user
Also, some late SA/early BA DCs disclose the number of copies printed for that particular issue.
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Collector Rafel private msg quote post Address this user
Not sure why some of you are getting heated up. I just wanted to know how many issues of any MARVEL comic were printed. Also, (I didn't mention it) I was wondering why my CONAN THE BARBARIAN #99 (printed in 1979), DEFENDERS #73 (printed in 1979), CAPT. AMERICA #236 (printed in 1979), SPIDER-WOMAN #17(printed in 1979), The NEW CAPT. MARVEL #62 (printed in 1979) and DOCTOR STRANGE #37 (printed in 1979) which are all 9.6 to 9.8 are only worth $4-$7, (ok, SPIDER-WOMAN #17 is at $12) at a 9.2 grade. Was 1979 a bad year?? Plus, these are not for sale and I'll be turning them in to CBCS as soon as I get my (2) other orders returned.
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Collector Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user
@Rafel I know you are asking about print runs , but I found this on the web - about sales numbers...Perhaps this helps. Good luck. Ray/RI
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Collector Johnnylray private msg quote post Address this user
http://www.comichron.com/monthlycomicssales.html
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Collector ZosoRocks private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Despain
Here you go: Comichron


Question:

Once a book is issued the first week published, do distributors have the opportunity in three weeks, to reorder their supply?

If so, in order to get a print amount - the sales figures in this link would have to be figured for each month after the initial release.

This is one area of the business I think has been neglected and clearly defines a value for a book.

If anyone is interested, this link is for Valiant books. As you can see in the price guide, publication amounts are listed, but not for all books.

One could gauge these figures against other books to get some sort of idea on the amount available.

http://www.valiantfan.com/guide
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Collector Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
That is a site that lists estimated preorders from stores. Not a valid for sure print run of comics. I question some of you who contact me outside this forum like pansies who are afraid to show themselves. Keyboard warriors. Pfft.


So what you're saying is we should all MANNUP and confront you directly here.
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
That is a site that lists estimated preorders from stores. Not a valid for sure print run of comics. I question some of you who contact me outside this forum like pansies who are afraid to show themselves. Keyboard warriors. Pfft.


So what you're saying is we should all MANNUP and confront you directly here.


Thanks, I added you to my list.
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Collector BLBcomics private msg quote post Address this user



Print runs, and/or amount of copies sold decades ago, et al have zero bearing in relationship to how many copies still exist. Original query was how many Amazing Spider-Man #1 were printed back in early 1963. Guy answers himself 250,000.

Back in the 70s 80s 90s we were asking same concepts but placing emphasis on how many survive. The most conservative estimate was is remains a MINIMUM of 25,000+ copies of AmSPi #1 are still floating out there.

Maybe as many as 50,000 coupled with the other portion of that supply side math of "demand" which obviously there is some there for such a comic book

There is a wealth of data out there in cyber land built up over a few decades now which does not permeate percolate in to CBCS/CGC chat room "boards" realms of consciousness due mainly to the concept that MOST serious collectors are into what is underneath the covers and not in to plastic slab coffins.

Amazing SPider-Man #1 is not a rare much less even scarce funny book. Manipulated demand has pushed its price upwards in to the stratosphere along with other "key" investment comic books.

Gravity is a concept one should also be exploring.....
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Collector steveinthecity private msg quote post Address this user
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Print runs, and/or amount of copies sold decades ago, et al have zero bearing in relationship to how many copies still exist. Original query was how many Amazing Spider-Man #1 were printed back in early 1963. Guy answers himself 250,000.

Back in the 70s 80s 90s we were asking same concepts but placing emphasis on how many survive. The most conservative estimate was is remains a MINIMUM of 25,000+ copies of AmSPi #1 are still floating out there.

Maybe as many as 50,000 coupled with the other portion of that supply side math of "demand" which obviously there is some there for such a comic book

There is a wealth of data out there in cyber land built up over a few decades now which does not permeate percolate in to CBCS/CGC chat room "boards" realms of consciousness due mainly to the concept that MOST serious collectors are into what is underneath the covers and not in to plastic slab coffins.

Amazing SPider-Man #1 is not a rare much less even scarce funny book. Manipulated demand has pushed its price upwards in to the stratosphere along with other "key" investment comic books.

Gravity is a concept one should also be exploring.....


Not sure what my "permeated" or "speculated" view of comics has any bearing on a print run? I'm also dissenting on the idea that someone interested in what is inside a funny book differs from what a "serious" collector appreciates. You're post confuzzles me.
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Collector Jerkfro private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
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Originally Posted by Jerkfro
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Originally Posted by kaptainmyke
That is a site that lists estimated preorders from stores. Not a valid for sure print run of comics. I question some of you who contact me outside this forum like pansies who are afraid to show themselves. Keyboard warriors. Pfft.


So what you're saying is we should all MANNUP and confront you directly here.


Thanks, I added you to my list.


I dub you the Calamerica of this message board
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Collector Oxbladder private msg quote post Address this user
Usually, Diamond sales reports come about two months or so after the actual release month.


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Originally Posted by Despain
Here you go: Comichron


Question:

Once a book is issued the first week published, do distributors have the opportunity in three weeks, to reorder their supply?

If so, in order to get a print amount - the sales figures in this link would have to be figured for each month after the initial release.

This is one area of the business I think has been neglected and clearly defines a value for a book.

If anyone is interested, this link is for Valiant books. As you can see in the price guide, publication amounts are listed, but not for all books.

One could gauge these figures against other books to get some sort of idea on the amount available.

http://www.valiantfan.com/guide
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Collector Oxbladder private msg quote post Address this user
Personally? Print runs mean nothing. They are much lower now than they have been in the past, which is not a surprise. More nice copies from the last 40 or so year s exist than the previous 40, again, not a surprise. Yes there are books now that have print runs of less than x number. So what? In today's terms that means squat. Almost all of them will survive in high grade. However, for many older books you may have a hard time even finding a copy never mind a high grade one.

IMHO it seems today print runs and estimated existing copies really only exist to give people one more tool to try and market their books. Very few books have big value attached to them based on scarcity alone. There could be one existing copy of a book and it could have very little value relative to other books of that vintage. Why? People simply aren't interested. On the other hand people might fall all over themselves to buy yet another Hulk #181. Demand rules the day, not scarcity (manufactured or real).
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
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Personally? Print runs mean nothing. They are much lower now than they have been in the past, which is not a surprise. More nice copies from the last 40 or so year s exist than the previous 40, again, not a surprise. Yes there are books now that have print runs of less than x number. So what? In today's terms that means squat. Almost all of them will survive in high grade. However, for many older books you may have a hard time even finding a copy never mind a high grade one.

IMHO it seems today print runs and estimated existing copies really only exist to give people one more tool to try and market their books. Very few books have big value attached to them based on scarcity alone. There could be one existing copy of a book and it could have very little value relative to other book of that vintage. Why? People simply aren't interested. On the other hand people might fall all over themselves to by yet another Hulk #181. Demand rules the day, not scarcity (manufactured or real).


It's true 100%. I have books with a "10 print run only" and they sell for squat. If it's a 10 copy run of a book nobody's ever heard of or cares, than it means nothing.
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Collector BLBcomics private msg quote post Address this user
SITC: Not sure what my "permeated" or "speculated" view of comics has any bearing on a print run? I'm also dissenting on the idea that someone interested in what is inside a funny book differs from what a "serious" collector appreciates. You're post confuzzles me.


BLB: I fail to see what is confuzzling especially when there is no previous commentary from you in there here thread. Not that I could visually ascertain upon scroll.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
Comichron is a site that reports sales of Direct market comics to North American comic shops.

It does not report print runs, especially of any comics published since Diamond became the only distributor of the Direct market.

It does not report sales of English-language comics sold outside of North America.

It does not report sale of newsstand comic books.

It is not possible to know the print runs of any comics, published anywhere, unless the publisher (or, very rarely, the printer) has revealed that information.

For nearly every comic published, the exact number printed (or even very accurate estimates +/-.1%) is not known by anyone except the publisher and printer.

Reasonable estimates can be ascertained for older books, by using the Statements of Ownership and, where available, Capital City distribution numbers, but they are only estimates, and since most publishers no longer file SOOs, that information is no longer available.

The best you can get is "single issue nearest to filing date", which is usually the issue published with a "December" cover date.

So, KaptainMyke's statement was correct. There isn't a place where you can find print runs.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
So anyone pointing to Comichron as a record of "print run" either doesn't know what they're talking about, or they're trying to sell you something.

This is why using sales numbers to estimate print runs for incentive variants is absolute madness. You're asking someone to make an estimate of an estimate, using numbers that have nothing to do with either estimate in any way.
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Collector Oxbladder private msg quote post Address this user
@DocBrown

Well, sometimes people are just curious. That being said I am usually very suspicious when someone is wanting to know print run numbers.
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Collector DocBrown private msg quote post Address this user
There's nothing wrong with curiosity...but there is, in the first seven posts in this thread, a repetition of the same misinformation that leads people to erroneous conclusions.

Nothing against these guys, but it certainly appears as if the OP has taken this misinformation and bought it as fact.

Comichron clearly states what it is, upfront, but all over the internet, it gets repeated as "print run" information endlessly.

Shouldn't we want to promote accurate information?
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