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1Collector | 2rideli8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
I'd like to know if anyone understands this : Amazing spider-man #101 - 6.5 spine stress, corner & edge wear to cover breaks color front cover scratches & creases to cover breaks color front cover, tiny thin chips bottom right front cover small foxing back cover & interior cover Amazing spider-man #300 -5.5 spine stress breaks color crease bottom left corner back cover breaks color light fingerprints right front cover #300 looks at a minimum to be 8.5 and that with a magnifying glass. Maybe hubble could help |
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Collector | andy49 private msg quote post Address this user | |
post a picture | ||
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? | DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Yes, I understand what the grader's notes are saying. | ||
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Collector | andy49 private msg quote post Address this user | |
that is a major color-breaking crease on the left back cover chipping on the right back cover? something going on there don't need hubble to see that |
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Collector | 2rideli8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
yeah that is very noticeable but my #101 has many more color breaks on the spine and still got a a grade higher |
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? | DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@2rideli8 Are you hoping that someone will explain the issues to you? Here are a couple of examples of spine stress that breaks color: I think the very large color breaking crease on the back cover is obvious. The length of that crease nukes any chance for an 8.5. My suggestion is that you pick up a copy of the latest version of the Overstreet Grading Guide. It's a very useful tool when learning to grade comics. Hope this helps and welcome to the forum. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. | flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 2rideli8 This makes no sense. That giant color breaking streak across a substantial portion of the back cover is enough to drop it to a 6.0. Books with that large a crease will never get a grade above 6.5 at the highest. The fingerprint is enough to drop the book by multiple grades by itself. This with the other imperfections make the grade appear accurate, or maybe a bit high for that particular book. The ASM #101 doesn't have fingerprints or a large crease through the cover, it should be given a higher grade. Multiple spine ticks although unsightly don't affect the grade as much as a large crease. I would definitely prefer a book with a color breaking crease on the back cover to a book with a bunch of spine ticks, but the grades appear correct based on the photos you've provided and you should be happy with them. I would also suggest getting a copy of the Overstreet guide to comic book grading. |
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Collector | andy49 private msg quote post Address this user | |
several minor spine creases are preferred to that major back cover crease that's what may be throwing you off |
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Collector | 2rideli8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
thanks , i don't need that explained . I also have a few overstreets. The 8.5 wasn't what i was looking for. My problem was #101 clearly had more defects than #300 and still got a higher grade. Thanks for the input |
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? | Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user | |
The big long crease on the back corner along with the side cracking would be the reasons. Front looks good. But the back kills the grade. | ||
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. | flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 2rideli8 You're welcome, but both of these statements blatantly disregard the Overstreet grading standards, CGC's grading standards and CBCS's grading standards. You seem to be ignoring that the "type" of defect is as important as the amount of defects. |
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Collector | 2rideli8 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Probably , i am a bit bias. It's shame clean and press job CBCS didn't remove the fingerprints. thanks again i do appreciate it |
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The Fifth Golden Girl | sborock private msg quote post Address this user | |
@2rideli8 Some fingerprints are so ingrained that they can't be removed. | ||
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? | DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 2rideli8 Fingerprints on comics oftentimes REMOVE the color instead of adding dirt, etc. on top of the color. If a person has something like hand lotion on his fingers when touching a comic the color can actually come off on his fingertips. There's nothing to be removed by a cleaning with those types of fingerprints. I can't see the fingerprints in the pictures that you posted but that could be what's going on. |
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If I could, I would. I swear. | DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 What on earth would some guy who reads comics be doing with lotion on his hands? |
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Collector | andy49 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson maybe he reads undergrounds |
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You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right? | DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@DrWatson Yea I knew there'd be a few comments like that when I wrote that sentence. | ||
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Thank you sir. May I have another? | Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 2rideli8 Two grades actually. |
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Thank you sir. May I have another? | Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by andy49 Maybe Jame Gumb tossed it down the well for Catherine to read. |
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Thank you sir. May I have another? | Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
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PLOD | theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Much like last year with the OSPG, I bought my first copy of the grading guide just last week. Always good to have a physical reference, and something that has been historically significant to the hobby. |
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Collector | FuneralBill5150 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson I guess you forgot how McFarlane used to draw MJ! |
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