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Collector Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user
With Jim shooter coming to baltimore, i was looking through books to potentially have signed and thought about something...since he was part of the creation of the symbiote venom, would it be logical to get his sig on a book like venom lethal protector 1?

This is solely for my PC, its more so a question of would it make sense to ask for his sig on the book, not wanting to offend an artist as their general rule of thumb is a book they were involved with or a character they created. While he had no involvement with that book, to me he definitely had a part in the creation of venom.

What do you think?
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Maybe they just like me better. Nah, that's not it. BPaxson002 private msg quote post Address this user
Stan Lee was signing books he had absolutely nothing doing anything on.

It is your book, you get what you want on it.
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I AM... THE Bat-Manuel MurrayC private msg quote post Address this user
A friend of mine was telling me he attended a convention and was having after-show drinks with a creator friend who got invited to tag along with some "big name" creators including Jim Shooter.

At one point, a fanboy rolls up to Jim Shooter with a short box of comics on one of those luggage rollers, and asks Jim to sign EVERY one of them.

Those short boxes can hold up to 200 comics, so he must have created SOMETHING.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
If it's for your personal collection, then your opinion is the only one that matters. Get the signatures you like.

For me personally, I probably wouldn't get an editor's signature unless I was already getting the artists (pencils, inks, colors) so that it was more of the 'whole team'. I could see an exception if it was known that the editor had a strong hand in a particular story.

Aside from that, Shooter did some writing and such himself on certain issues. You could find one of those if you wanted to.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
I dunno, I kinda think like sometimes you may never step on that particular piece of water again. I went to Dallas Fantasy fair back in 92 and took along my showcase 22, for Gil Kane to sign. Gil was sick that weekend and did not appear....while I was strolling around I noticed a guy sitting at a table off to the side and the crowd was pretty much ignoring him. I went up, and introduced myself and he let me know he was Julius Schwartz....I was of course thrilled to see the man who gave the silver age much of its origin, with overseeing the reissue of titles like Green lantern, flash and Justice league.....thought to myself, wish I had something for the guy to sign, then remembered that showcase 22....copy is at best a VG+, so signing the first page wouldnt drop the grade, why not? so he signed it, and off I went. A few years later he was dead....and I always wonder why I did not get more signed from him.
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Shooter was the best thing that happened to Marvel. Go for it.
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Collector Sebastsk8 private msg quote post Address this user
The book in question is venom lethal protector 1 gold variant. As he did write secret wars 8 and had a good part in the creation and origin of the symbiote thats where the question lies.

I do have a regular red foil I'd also have him sign that I also have michelinies sig on - I just didn't have the gold variant when I had him sign the red.
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I dunno, I kinda think like sometimes you may never step on that particular piece of water again. I went to Dallas Fantasy fair back in 92 and took along my showcase 22, for Gil Kane to sign. Gil was sick that weekend and did not appear....while I was strolling around I noticed a guy sitting at a table off to the side and the crowd was pretty much ignoring him. I went up, and introduced myself and he let me know he was Julius Schwartz....I was of course thrilled to see the man who gave the silver age much of its origin, with overseeing the reissue of titles like Green lantern, flash and Justice league.....thought to myself, wish I had something for the guy to sign, then remembered that showcase 22....copy is at best a VG+, so signing the first page wouldnt drop the grade, why not? so he signed it, and off I went. A few years later he was dead....and I always wonder why I did not get more signed from him.


I'd would have traded my wife and my cats to get Julie Schwartz's autograph!

Well, maybe not the cats.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
I dunno, I kinda think like sometimes you may never step on that particular piece of water again. I went to Dallas Fantasy fair back in 92 and took along my showcase 22, for Gil Kane to sign. Gil was sick that weekend and did not appear....while I was strolling around I noticed a guy sitting at a table off to the side and the crowd was pretty much ignoring him. I went up, and introduced myself and he let me know he was Julius Schwartz....I was of course thrilled to see the man who gave the silver age much of its origin, with overseeing the reissue of titles like Green lantern, flash and Justice league.....thought to myself, wish I had something for the guy to sign, then remembered that showcase 22....copy is at best a VG+, so signing the first page wouldnt drop the grade, why not? so he signed it, and off I went. A few years later he was dead....and I always wonder why I did not get more signed from him.


I had a similar thing with Jerry Robinson.....I had run out of cash and he had Batman or Joker head sketches for $50.....I should have found an ATM or tried to work the corner or something - kicking myself now
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
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The book in question is venom lethal protector 1 gold variant. As he did write secret wars 8 and had a good part in the creation and origin of the symbiote thats where the question lies.

I do have a regular red foil I'd also have him sign that I also have michelinies sig on - I just didn't have the gold variant when I had him sign the red.
Honestly once the guy is gone and not signing anymore, it wont matter if the signature is on gold toilet paper or red wallpaper, it will have a value vastly beyond any of this consideration

wow, I hadnt realized he is already 70 years old
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
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I dunno, I kinda think like sometimes you may never step on that particular piece of water again. I went to Dallas Fantasy fair back in 92 and took along my showcase 22, for Gil Kane to sign. Gil was sick that weekend and did not appear....while I was strolling around I noticed a guy sitting at a table off to the side and the crowd was pretty much ignoring him. I went up, and introduced myself and he let me know he was Julius Schwartz....I was of course thrilled to see the man who gave the silver age much of its origin, with overseeing the reissue of titles like Green lantern, flash and Justice league.....thought to myself, wish I had something for the guy to sign, then remembered that showcase 22....copy is at best a VG+, so signing the first page wouldnt drop the grade, why not? so he signed it, and off I went. A few years later he was dead....and I always wonder why I did not get more signed from him.


I'd would have traded my wife and my cats to get Julie Schwartz's autograph!

Well, maybe not the cats.
I still have the book, I can submit pictures, and I wouldn't expect an actual cat in trade. We can discuss the wife though, pending her approval. Here is the book and signature!
Does the wife come with any accessories, or perhaps credit cards and bank accounts?


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Maybe they just like me better. Nah, that's not it. BPaxson002 private msg quote post Address this user
@Darkseid_of_town

The credit cards and bank accounts are in my name, sorry. Though she is a very good cook and business manager! However I am doubtful she would approve, as she does not go out much due to the pandemic.

I will say you have an exquisite treasure in that book! I am also not surprised you have not had that graded and verified.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
I guess for me once you get a book signed and then slab it you cant even look at the signature anymore. I may do so someday but I just never have. I bought the book for less than a hundred dollars back in the eighties .....just hung onto it all those years.


I appreciate your fun and humor about our trade, it makes places like this fun. I am sure you have a wonderful wife and no offense intended with my "joke'
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@Sebastsk8 - I met Jim Shooter a few years ago at a convention. Being a big Legion of Super-Heroes fan, I brought a copy of Adventure Comics #346 for him to sign. Even though he was like 15 years old when that issue can out, he’s listed as the writer and artist for that book. There was no line, and he was just a nice guy who was there to talk comics with anyone who stopped at his booth. He didn’t even charge for his autograph, saying as a writer and editor he didn’t feel right charging for it. Now I wish I had him sign more than one book.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
Shooter is supposed to be at a convention I'm going to in a couple weeks. For my reference as much as anyone else's, here are some of his non-editing credits (as far as the website is accurate; I don't have the books to check the artist stuff in particular)

He wrote about 150 comics for Marvel, probably most famously Secret Wars https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Jim_Shooter/Writer

He apparently penciled on four books, two being Spectacular Spider-Man issues https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Jim_Shooter/Penciler

And apparently he did one cover, which I've seen as a weekly cover contest entry https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Jim_Shooter/Cover_Artist
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Collector KYDU private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
I dunno, I kinda think like sometimes you may never step on that particular piece of water again. I went to Dallas Fantasy fair back in 92 and took along my showcase 22, for Gil Kane to sign. Gil was sick that weekend and did not appear....while I was strolling around I noticed a guy sitting at a table off to the side and the crowd was pretty much ignoring him. I went up, and introduced myself and he let me know he was Julius Schwartz....I was of course thrilled to see the man who gave the silver age much of its origin, with overseeing the reissue of titles like Green lantern, flash and Justice league.....thought to myself, wish I had something for the guy to sign, then remembered that showcase 22....copy is at best a VG+, so signing the first page wouldnt drop the grade, why not? so he signed it, and off I went. A few years later he was dead....and I always wonder why I did not get more signed from him.


That’s a great story I had the same thing happen when I first met Herb Trimpe and I couldn’t believe there was no lineup for him. He was amazing and drew me a sketch with two of his most famous characters fighting,(I still have it.

I met Julius when I went to DC comics in NY. (I was friends with one of the longtime editors). I met him through a coworker at his job so different vibe than a con.I didn’t ask him for anything as that would have been tacky at work. He showed me around and introduced me to some of the staff. He was great very down to earth.
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