Subscription crease grade impact15824
Pages:
1
 I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
|
Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
         looking at getting some more books together for a submission. Have this tec359 that has a subscription crease evident on the back cover. Had it pressed twice and still there. What kind of grade do you think it might come back as. I appreciate your input |
||
| Post 1 • IP flag post | ||
 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
|
GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Really solid book. I'd say that's somewhere in the 8.0 range give or take a grade point up or down. | ||
| Post 2 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Doc_Cop private msg quote post Address this user | |
| First off, kudos on a great copy of this highly sought after key! Unfortunately, the subscription crease will knock the grade down to the 6.0 range. At this point the grader will take into account the other issues (color breaking crease bottom right, the small chunk out of the top middle of front cover, blunted corners etc.) Don't shoot the messenger, especially since I would love to own this book, but I'm going to say 5.5. By the way, nice pressing work. Nuff said... | ||
| Post 3 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
cesidio private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Sad thing is pressing won't do anything for the color breaks. Might help with the corners but jeezee. Still a nice book | ||
| Post 4 • IP flag post | ||
|
I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry.
|
Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I appreciate everyone's input. Was expecting around a 6.0, since the crease is on the back, I didn't know if there was a less impact on the grade. I'll share the results when I get the book back. | ||
| Post 5 • IP flag post | ||
 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
|
esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Batman66 - Fantastic looking book. I think it could pull a 6.5, maybe even a 7.0, even with the crease (I think you can get a 6.5 with a popped staple, so why not with a crease?). | ||
| Post 6 • IP flag post | ||
 " . "
|
Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| That is 6.0+ | ||
| Post 7 • IP flag post | ||
|
" . "
|
Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Am surprised the crease still held that shape after two presses. It may be useful to take a photo top edge-on. |
||
| Post 8 • IP flag post | ||
|
I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
|
GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
| my 8.0 was too high...but I think a 7.0 is definitely possible. | ||
| Post 9 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
Huntergreene2 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Too bad you can't "press" the ink into the crease from the surrounding areas. | ||
| Post 10 • IP flag post | ||
 I haven't aired it out. It's part of the provenance.
|
Galen130 private msg quote post Address this user | |
6.5 tops. A press may help flatten that crease, bit it’s old so it will still be noticeable. Still a great book to have…wish I had one.  🤣 |
||
| Post 11 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
jokioo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Books like that (at least copies I've seen graded by CBCS) will often receive a check mark. Beautiful book, and a great copy. | ||
| Post 12 • IP flag post | ||
|
Collector
|
Doc_Cop private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @GAC - The determining factor of where a comic starts out during the grading process is the presence of a "Grade Limiting Defect". Unfortunately a subscription crease is just that, just like missing a Marvel value stamp. No matter how gorgeous the book is, it's best grade is determined by it grade limiting defects. | ||
| Post 13 • IP flag post | ||
 Can the moderators change my profile caption to <snip>
|
ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I had a sub crease on DD 171 and it got a lot of points taken off but I think it was graded incorrectly by the seller. | ||
| Post 14 • IP flag post | ||
|
I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
|
GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Doc_Cop Understood and thanks. What's the top grade for a subscription crease defect? |
||
| Post 15 • IP flag post | ||
|
" . "
|
Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I think the difference is front vs back cover. If there is no distinction then it is a case where the market should ignore the grade. If the visible crease would be on the front I would have a different view. |
||
| Post 16 • IP flag post | ||
 Please continue to ignore anything I post.
|
southerncross private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Subscription crease normally brings a book down to very good range. Also depends on the severity of the crease. Is it still noticable in the interior pages? I myself like sub copies as they can usually look better then their grade. With this copy the sub crease is noticable on the back cover. I'd say a 5.0 maybe a 5.5. I may have to look at it better at the pics. Nice book  |
||
| Post 17 • IP flag post | ||
|
Please continue to ignore anything I post.
|
southerncross private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo A popped stable is not as severe as a crease that runs down the length of a book. On a sweet copy with a popped stable the highest grade you can get is a 8.0 Here is an example, haven't bothered to get it graded as it's not worth it for a 8.0  |
||
| Post 18 • IP flag post | ||
 Collector
|
etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo I was thinking this. But it brings up a good question about how they "count" flaws. Is this a 5.5 with a check? Or a 6.5? do they start at a 7.0 do to sub then start subracting half points for every color break? I have GL #3 that came back a 5.5 that's WAY worse off than this book. It would be a shame to think this would be the same grade. |
||
| Post 19 • IP flag post | ||
|
Please continue to ignore anything I post.
|
southerncross private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I always thought a check mark is because of a defect inside the book made the outer appearance better looking then the grade assigned. | ||
| Post 20 • IP flag post | ||
|
I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
|
esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross I could be wrong, but my impression was that the checkmark could be used for any flaw that wasn’t readily noticeable. That could be a defect on an interior page - like writing, tears, corner missing, etc., or a very light stain, water mark, or bend on the front or back cover. |
||
| Post 21 • IP flag post | ||
|
I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
|
GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo That's always been my understanding...the checkmark is used whenever the book looks better than the assigned grade for any reason. |
||
| Post 22 • IP flag post | ||
|
Can the moderators change my profile caption to <snip>
|
ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I got one of theese * | ||
| Post 23 • IP flag post | ||
 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
|
DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by ComicNinja0215 Stars were used before the cgc threatened a lawsuit. |
||
| Post 24 • IP flag post | ||
|
Can the moderators change my profile caption to <snip>
|
ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @DrWatson this was last summer about this time so that makes sense . | ||
| Post 25 • IP flag post | ||
Pages:
1This topic is archived. Start new topic?