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Quote:Originally Posted by glow This was for my modern order. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nearmint67 Simply doing a warm body hire is not always the best solution. Hiring, even in the best of times, is difficult if you are not hiring the right people, for the right positions and then provide the correct training. I worked for 15 years in production much like what CBCS/CGC is going through. We had much the same problem with bottle necks of the workflow, until until I did a systemic change on how the mail was sorted. I would love to know how the processing here works, but I suspect that would fall under "trade secrets". |
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Just catching up on this thread today. Somebody done lost they damn mind. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator Yes, agreed they have a ton of new graders. My limited experience with these new graders is that they are actually giving lower grades, with little to no reason why they give the grade. I'd welcome more feedback on this from others who may have seen disparity between current grades and say a year or two ago. Quote: Originally Posted by Scifinator In principle I agree with you, but lets be honest here. We all want our books to get as high a grade as possible. There is a HUGE difference in prices between a modern book that is 9.4, 9.6 or 9.8. Between 9.4 and 9.8 the price difference can easily be a factor of 10. For anyone looking to monetize their collections or even do the short term buy/hold/sell the higher the grade the better. I'm not saying this is right, but I also admit I've been hugely frustrated getting a 9.6 back on a book that has zero visible defects and gets no grader notes back. Sheesh, did they find a wrinkle on an interior page or something? Who cares? When you look at a comic book vs. a baseball card, stamp, coin etc. there are just so many points of potential flaw that the entire grading process seems far more subjective to me. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Petroman@Petroman - That is a benefit of CBCS offering free graders notes on all submissions. Besides my comfort in knowing that the grade is more likely to be accurate than one from cgc, if I am buying a graded book to fill a hole or upgrade, I will typically buy a CBCS as I can view the notes, for FREE, of why it’s a 9.6 or below. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Scifinator Yes, I agree that the free grader notes from CBCS is a huge advantage over the silly $5 cost for a CGC book, especially when you want to purchase the book. My frustration with CGC is that there are a bunch of times where I get a book back as 9.6 or even 9.4 with no grader notes. Maybe CBCS is better with this. I think pre this huge submission overload CGC used to be better at it too. As I look through my historical submissions there were pretty detailed grader notes. My most recent submissions have had very few, possibly due to the number of new graders but who really knows? For me the lower grades on books I'm looking to just dump on Ebay was the final straw for sending to CGC. As mentioned, getting a 9.4 when expecting a 9.6/9.8 (and after enduring a several month grading time) pretty much just meant that I'd end up dumping the book at grading cost. Not a good business model, even for a hobby, LOL. |
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@glow @Petroman I have a couple of 2-Day orders in, although both have pressing. I got 'received' emails for both within a couple days of USPS saying they were delivered. I don't expect them to be pressed in a month and graded in a week though. | ||
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I don’t think hiring more graders would really address the core of the issue. I actually like that they only have 15 or so graders. The grading process is probably the least time consuming step in the whole process. This is evident by how long submission sit before they’re even marked as “received”, or how long they’re stuck in the “shipping” stage. I know I’m playing armchair business guy here but it seems like a logical path forward. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Supertom To scale a business it would seem you need more of pretty much everything. More box receivers, more graders, more encapsulaters, more shippers, more warehouse space, more insurance, maybe even more locations. I doubt we will ever get much visibility into their actual operations (or that of CGC), but persistent, massive backlogs and delays in opening submissions would indicate that there is something lacking with their current process. Sure, maybe this is just a spike that will abate at some point, but the fact that both of the major grading companies seem to be experiencing the same phenomenon could indicate that this is more than just a fluke. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Petroman Don't forget security and more managers to run the new bodies. Course that will lead to a need for either a larger facility or a satellite production floor. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Petroman I really doubt that CBCS is going to be able to earn your long-term business by giving you grades that are higher than CGC. Of all the reasons I've heard for using CBCS, looser grading has never been one of them. Quote: Originally Posted by Petroman I tend to think the spike is temporary and my best guess is that submissions and TAT's will be much lower by Feb-March of next year. The changes in IRS reporting requirements for online sales will play a big part in this. It won't effect dealers, but it will affect hobbyists. |
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@BPaxson002 That’s assuming they’re already at max capacity of their current facility. Just because more people jump in the pool doesn’t mean you need a second lifeguard. Also if they limit the number of submission they receive per my earlier post the amount of space they currently use to store boxes and boxes of unprocessed orders could be used for more offices, or production equipment. Heck, I bet insuring humans would cost them less than insuring all those comics! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Supertom Every time you add a warm body, you are subtracting about 10 cubic feet from a finite capacity. You can only do this so many times before you impact safety factors, personnel support (parking, restrooms, eating spaces) and the like. Given the current state of lag, my surmise is no one expected this amount of expansion in such a short time. Now this is based on a single shift capacity. It could be CBCS is working on a around the clock program, which presents a whole different slew of problems. |
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Well... I see we're at Turnaround 6.0 now... Ah, back in my day we were at a mere 5.0, when I recounted my tales of waiting woe... So just thought I'd drop my stuff here for those looking for timeframes: 0) Order Complete 4/25 - Shipped 4/26 1) USPS shows delivered to individual on 4/29 2) CBCS updated status to 'Processing' from 'Submitted' on 5/17 3) As of 9/23 Still in 'Processing' I too share the thoughts of others in this thread I've seen, that I'll probably fast pass, speed wooblet, or high tail it widget on the grading services in the future. They are all for my PC, but like... I'm about to hit the 5 month mark in a week. I had no pressing or anything, so I've crossed the currently listed "Turnaround Time" of 17 weeks for my all modern submission. Which is why I've come back to the forums, to see if others getting close to turnaround are getting books shipped back. I feel my time is soon. |
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anyone recently have a package delivered to CBCS? just got some comics delivered to them today. submitted proof of delivery to be emailed to me on the USPS website and it's showing it was delivered to 2309 Springlake Rd. instead of 4635 McEwen Road. Google maps is showing they're only 13 minutes away from each other. Just find it a bit odd they wouldn't deliver it to the address on the label. Anyone else experience anything like this? |
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@glow Definitely something to ask the Post Office about. The only thing I can think of is perhaps CBCS’ onsite storage is at capacity, forcing them to use an offsite overflow storage facility and are forwarding packages there but that is just guessing on my part. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite yeah, contacted them right away. they told me they're making a case and will get back to me to confirm they delivered to beckett. i think you're right and that would totally make sense, but we'll see! |
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I agree about at least setting a limit on newer books. The ones whose only true value is the 9.8 grade. | ||
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And lol about getting a higher grade from CBCS than CGC for same book. Maybe try PSX ?? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by xtraplayer I don't get it. If you're implying that CBCS gives lower grades then why the heck would anyone want to use them? Heck, CBCS books already sell at a discount to CGC books at the same grade, if they grade out lower this discount will go from 10% to 90%. I stopped sending books to CGC earlier this year because the grades I was getting were just all over the place, most likely due to the fact that they had hired so many new graders. And the grades were not inflated -- quite the opposite and most books seemed to be coming back 1-2 grades lower than prior submissions. Less than half of the books that graded 9.4 or below had any grader notes, which was pretty frustrating to me. Is it too much to ask to get timely, accurate and consistent grading? Sadly, I guess in 2021 it is... |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Petroman I think the implication was that shopping around for the highest grade, instead of the most accurate grade, should not be the motivation of those purchasing grading services. |
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How long is two day modern taking now? I know the website says 1 week but I feel like it is taking longer then that from some of the posts. Please answer if you have sent in two day modern submissions in the last 3 weeks. Thanks for the info. | ||
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I sent in 8 books for 2 day modern that was received on Sept. 8th and it was completed and shipped on Sept. 14 | ||
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Part of my submission was 2 day modern. The rest was regular modern. It’s been 5 weeks and none of them have even been marked as received. | ||
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if you sent the books on the same invoice then you will not get them back until the regular Modern has been graded. So in about 20 weeks. | ||
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My 2 day modern order that was delivered yesterday was just marked as received and I have already been charged for the order today. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Supertom @Supertom - See @Jdiviney96 comment -Quote: Originally Posted by Jdiviney96 |
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Well, all the books I sent to CGC received on 4/10 have been graded and shipped. The moderns came in about 8 weeks ago, economy shipped yesterday. AND 10 books CGC received on 6/10 have just shipped. My 3 VSP moderns I sent to CBCS received on 4/17 are still marked “grading”. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders Finally received my notification e-mail today. 8 weeks after they were delivered to CBCS. They must really be behind. |
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Eight months, eleven days since receipt for me (and counting) | ||
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