USPS Question/Concern/Warning15588
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jgzachary13 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Yikes! Wanted to ask a question and give a warning about a USPS delivery issue that could have gone very wrong. To give you an idea of value, I bought a CBCS 9.8 Black Panther 2 (1st Shuri), which was shipped via USPS. A USPS carrier dropped off the package at my door (which was odd because we have locked USPS mail and package boxes in our community—why I use USPS for higher ticket items), but I did not know at the time and happened to not be at the house when delivered. (I usually make sure to be available to get UPS or FedEx boxes that are delivered at the door, but did not expect USPS to drop something off at my door.) I watched my cameras after delivery and the carrier leaves the box at my door, begins to walk away, stops, comes back to the box, seems to do something with the box again, and then walks away again. Finding this odd, I looked at the tracking information and sure enough, the seller paid for signature receipt. When looking up the tracking number, the postal carrier listed “left with individual” and even put my name down as having SIGNED for the package! As you may have guessed, not only did I not sign for the package but he did not knock or ring our doorbell and no one was home at that time anyhow. I thankfully grabbed the package that was still at the door a couple hours later, but if a camera did not catch this on video, how could someone fight this if another person had stolen the package off my doorstep?! | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
Take the video up to your post office on USB drive or your phone. Ask to see the Postmaster and show them the video. Explain that the package was valued at $1000. (Do this.) If you really want to screw them over, have someone dress up with a mask, hat, etc. and have them run up to your door, grab the package and run off with it. Change the date to the same date as when it was delivered and change the time so it's an hour or so after it was dropped off. That is if your video recorder is time stamped. Then collect your $ and keep your comic too. This will teach their sorry asses. (Do NOT do this.) (Satire.) |
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Ryan4421 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Since the early part of the pandemic USPS asks and offers to allow the mail carrier sign to avoid interactions as a way to social distance. They offered it to me when sending to CBCS for grading submissions too. I think it defeats the purpose of what you are paying for and I always say no but if you're not paying attention or if the clerk is lazy you could end up with less than what you expect. | ||
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cesidio private msg quote post Address this user | |
Either go to the post office and tell them the truth or let it go. Install or have security cameras installed on and covering the entire perimeter of your domicile. If you get caught trying to commit fraud by altering time and dates you will be in hot water. Other option is get a p.o. box for such deliveries. | ||
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jgzachary13 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Ryan4421 Thanks. I had no idea they were signing on someone’s behalf. The record would show I personally signed, which was very disconcerting. Hopefully, I can figure out how to turn that option off as a recipient. | ||
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jgzachary13 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@GanaSoth I had a good experience with the local postmaster about the last comic that was delivered to the wrong address (last week in fact), so I will probably call the same person to mention this issue. Thankfully I live where neighbors help each other when postal employees put mail in the wrong box, which has happened more frequently than usual. My neighbor thankfully delivered my last comic to me. | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by jgzachary13 Sounds like to me it was the work of your neighbor that got you your comic book back, and not the Post Office. You are lucky in the fact you have caring neighbors. Once, my wife won some kind of Coach purse off of eBay. The seller had "free" shipping. The USPS worker dropped her purse off at the wrong location, marked it as delivered. I went to talk to the Postmaster and they weren't helpful at all. They wouldn't give me the address where the purse was delivered too out of "safety" reasons. And the only way they could retrieve it is if the person that had the purse gave it back to the USPS worker... Which never happened... The following pic is the reviews of my Local Post Office.... This is why I have no love for my local PO. ![]() |
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
I had a signature confirmation forged by usps as well. They left it in the mailbox. I had opened a case with usps and they closed it when the driver admitted to leaving it in mailbox. I asked what the point of having signature confirmation was then? They never replied. |
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xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
I've had packages left by all three of the major delivery services when they should have had signatures. The pandemic was one reason they all skipped it for a bit, but I think the overarching issue is too much to do and not enough time to do it in. | ||
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Fedex is doing the same thing...A box of 21 books just left at the door yesterday...this is nothing new...ever since covid they just leave things | ||
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
I think I might have signed for one package since the pandemic. It is a crime that all three major delivery services are still charging for signature verification when they no longer, or very rarely, provide this service. I did get a new printer from Staples this week. I ordered it online and it was delivered in a Staples truck the next day with free delivery. The delivery person put it on my doorstep and took a picture of it on my Welcome mat. I guess that’s how they prove it was delivered. |
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HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user | |
Route your delivery to a drop off location. I always have My fedex packages go to Walgreens for pickup. They are signed for by a recipient and locked away until I pick up and ID and tracking number are required for verification on pick up![]() |
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GanaSoth @jgzachary13 Don't do this, lol. @GanaSoth the ideas that don't involve committing a federal felony are gonna be more helpful, lol. |
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
I hate when they leave things without knocking or ringing the bell - there are obviously people home from the cars in the driveway - just ring the dammed door bell | ||
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
@EbayMafia Yeah I wasn't serious. But I guess I should have said kidding ![]() I read too much of the Babylon Bee I think. It has now been corrected: Quote: Originally Posted by GanaSoth |
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Gaard private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Ryan4421 I don't understand. If carriers are allowed to leave packages on the stoop due to safety concerns (which I fully understand), why the forging of signatures? Seems unnecessary. Quote: Originally Posted by HulkSmashI always do this with ComicLink. The last time (last week), the girl at Walgreens couldn't figure out how to use that little doohickey that scans the packages. After about 20 minutes, I asked her if I could take the box home ($1900 worth of comics), and she could figure it out later. She agreed. Now, if I were an unscrupulous person... |
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GanaSoth private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Gaard Hey ummm, when's your next shipment coming to that Walgreens and what is that employees name ? | ||
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash My closest FedEx drop off is the local Dollar General. 'Nuff said. |
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DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
This is just not a USPS thing. Fed Ex just delivered a laptop to me a couple of hours ago which was supposed to require a signature upon delivery. The driver signed for it himself. It happens all the time these days because of Covid (or maybe that's just an excuse). |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
They did it before Covid. The only reason I even bother sending something signature required is for insurance purposes. | ||
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Drogio private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by tonyz58 Everything I get signature required has been left on my doorstep. Including Cbcs and cgc deliveries. I’m having all my books for sale valued above $100 graded, and sending them to MCS now so mitigate the risk to me something gets f’d up in shipment of sales. Too much risk for me to use eBay anymore. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Gaard The company who sent your items paid for signature delivery. That is who the delivery services answer to, not to you. If an issue arises, they have a signature and have provided the service that was paid for. Of course, you could argue the fraud and they'd have to answer to that, if it gets that far. It's wrong, but it's simply a case of CYA for the delivery co. |
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo Amazon deliveries do the same. The pictures help in identifying other porches when trying to track down your packages. |
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drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Ryan4421 This is fraud and theft. Legally these companies may be able to use Covid as an excuse to justify the practice. |
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southerncross private msg quote post Address this user | |
I was waiting on government documents that never arrived. So after visiting the government building I find that they sent out the letter and it was returned unable to be delivered. So I got them to send it out again and luckily I did this as a couple of weeks time they would have had the documents destroyed and I'd have to do the process again. So not only did the postal person not ring our door bell at our secured building for a signature when someone was home. They didn't get the building manager to sign for it. And didn't bother to put a card in my letter box stating I had to go to their office to sign for the letter. They just put their hands up, can't deliver so return to sender. Well you can't complain about the service. There isn't any! Oh and this was years before the pandemic |
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drchaos private msg quote post Address this user | |
@southerncross The same thing happened to me when UPS was supposed to deliver a gaming chair I ordered from Staples. My landlady was home but no one rang the bell, I ran out for a couple hours so it couldn't have been to long that I missed the delivery myself. The package required signature but was supposedly left on the front porch. My belief is that the driver never delivered it in the first place. Fortunately I was able to complain to Staples and they let me pick one up from a nearby store the next day. |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Exactly, I had two queen mattress maked as delivered with a picture as proof. It was obvious from the picture that it was not my house. However, I was able to determine that it was the next door neighbor's porch from the photograph. I walked down the hill, collected the mattresses one at a time, and put them in my garage. |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
My latest round with the USPS was with two desks/TV trays ordered from Amazon and "delivered" by the USPS. On the first delivery attempt, I received a notice that the trays weren't delivered because the mail box was full. I don't know about you, but I have yet to see a mail box that will accommodate a TV tray regardless of how many pieces it arrives in. I got on the Internet and requested that the package be redelivered and left at the front door. The web site said they could do that. The next day I received a hand written note on the printed out redeliver request that the items were oversized and must be picked up. The post office is about 45 minutes one way. I called Amazon and told them that due to various reasons I was not able to pick up the package. Amazon said that the USPS should deliver it. Shortly thereafter, I received an email from the USPS that the package was oversized and had to be picked up. I called Amazon again and asked how did the package get from its point of origin to my USPS but my USPS couldn't get it to my home. Any way, Amazon ended up refunding my purchase. I messaged the seller through Amazon that they may want to look into using a different carrier. I guess the package will sit at the post office until it's return date and be returned to sender. I wonder if the USPS will call the seller when it gets back to the origin post office and tell them to come pick it up. |
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
What's ironic is that I just saw a USPS cargo van making deliveries on Sunday about 5 minutes from my house. | ||
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