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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
@lawguy1977 - if you are asking me, my issue as mentioned was that the movie was poorly written and didn't develop the character. Just seemed rushed to girl power mode.

Kinda felt the same about Captain Marvel as I did Batman/Superman & Justice League movies...each felt like they should have been 2-3 movie releases to properly develop.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
I think public discussions like this about societal change has a positive effect overall. I think that hearing peoples perspective helps to modify, or shave the rough edges off of unrefined initial positions. I believe it can have a moderating effect and introduce people to perspectives they hadn't considered before. I think when people just stay in their own heads or find an echo chamber...that's when positions get more extreme and more solidified.
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They signed Brie Larson to a 5 or 7 movie deal if I remember right, seems like they would have plenty of time to delve into the character and her motivations as they move forward...not sure why they would have to tell you everything the first movie out the gate, especially if they branch off and do the Rogue thing with her, or perhaps tell how she becomes Binary.
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I think public discussions like this about societal change has a positive effect overall. I think that hearing peoples perspective helps to modify, or shave the rough edges off of unrefined initial positions. I believe it can have a moderating effect and introduce people to perspectives they hadn't considered before. I think when people just stay in their own heads or find an echo chamber...that's when positions get more extreme and more solidified.
Solid take here...once you get that open forum and ability to discuss the next step is to remove the hate speech and labels....cause if you cannot grow past that point, you will never resolve anything
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@Scifinator I can’t really disagree with you.

Captain Marvel was pretty bland, but like you said it was writing, acting, plot, etc...

For some people though, it was a woman portraying a character that had always been male (They missed Monica Rambeau. Boy would that have pissed them off!) or Brie Larson and they hated the movie before anyone had ever seen it.

That group is a big part of the problem in this country and I think people are tired of it.

Now, in your defense, you’re a solid dude (No one who likes Joe Satriani could be an evil person) and I think you’re just trying offer your more moderate position and maybe the position a little less moderate for balances sake.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think you’re one of those people who hate a movie based on gender or race.

Anyway, I am starting to wonder if comic book fatigue is settling in.

I don’t think diversity has anything to with it. I think we’ve had 50 or so super hero movies in 13 years and that’s a lot.

Finally, it is nice to discuss this in a world where are getting the comic movies we are.

Really awesome time to be a comic fan.

I saw some kids grandmother correctly identify Gamora at birthday party.

Wow!
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I think that's mostly correct. As great as the majority of Marvel, and some of DC, movies have been. It's been... just... a LOT. As much as I love the super hero genre, I just want to see other things also

I do disagree that the diversity has nothing to do with it, I think it absolutely does, I just think fatigue is probably a (the?) major contributing factor. Well, that and I know I'm not going anywhere near a movie theater right now, I don't care if my kid was the star of the movie.

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Anyway, I am starting to wonder if comic book fatigue is settling in.

I don’t think diversity has anything to with it. I think we’ve had 50 or so super hero movies in 13 years and that’s a lot.
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I think that's mostly correct. As great as the majority of Marvel, and some of DC, movies have been. It's been... just... a LOT. As much as I love the super hero genre, I just want to see other things also

I do disagree that the diversity has nothing to do with it, I think it absolutely does, I just think fatigue is probably a (the?) major contributing factor. Well, that and I know I'm not going anywhere near a movie theater right now, I don't care if my kid was the star of the movie.

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Anyway, I am starting to wonder if comic book fatigue is settling in.

I don’t think diversity has anything to with it. I think we’ve had 50 or so super hero movies in 13 years and that’s a lot.



Fair point.

I know better than to deal in absolutes.

And, I feel the same as you. Eternals and Shang Chi aren’t exactly blowing my skirt up.

Maybe because I never really read those characters? Or maybe fatigue?

I’m not sure.
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Read all about it:
https://cosmicbook.news/marvel-woke-disaster-eternals-delayed-shang-chi


Jeezus the author of that article is angry... and why? Because comic book characters don't fit his world view? I genuinely feel bad for Matt.
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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The best part of forum threads is after 5 - 10 pages when everyone just wears themselves out
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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...the explicit and implicit bigotry fundamental to it.


Have you read some of the comments in the Seriously? WTF Marvel? thread?


I spend altogether too much time on the forum, so yes, I've read that thread.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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Finally, the only question I have is what was the agenda behind Captain Marvel?


If you read more articles on cosmicbook (and please don't, there are better things to do), one of them was that Nick Fury did dishes. That was a clear-cut example of man hating.
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...the explicit and implicit bigotry fundamental to it.


Have you read some of the comments in the Seriously? WTF Marvel? thread?


I spend altogether too much time on the forum, so yes, I've read that thread.


And no comment like the one I quoted there. I can think of 2 posts in that thread that fit that bill.
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Yet it is fine to denounce the mere discussion of anything as “bigotry” or lacking culture, or any of a number of false attributions thrown around.

Bingo.

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Woke was not really an externally applied label.

100% correct.

Funny how a self-assigned label is being called an insult. Lol
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How do I know this? Because I've done it myself. lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user
@xkonk Wow. My wife cooks. I do the dishes. I wonder what that means....

Never heard of cosmicbook until this thread. My morbid curiosity might get the better of me. As for where I get my movie and comic news, in case anyone cares, I typically look at Collider.com and CBR.com. I used to go to Newsarama but I feel like it's not been as good since Games Radar took it over.
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions. KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user
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@xkonk Wow. My wife cooks. I do the dishes. I wonder what that means....

Never heard of cosmicbook until this thread. My morbid curiosity might get the better of me. As for where I get my movie and comic news, in case anyone cares, I typically look at Collider.com and CBR.com. I used to go to Newsarama but I feel like it's not been as good since Games Radar took it over.


I'm even worse..I cook and do the dishes!!!

In my experience most women of my generation can't really cook - my home town was a small tourist town - in restaurants the guys worked as dishwashers and then up to prep cook, line cook etc - the girls were all on cash registers or waitresses!
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Funny how people toss around terms they know nothing about, but well you know....


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woke-meaning-word-history-b1790787.html
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Funny how people toss around terms they know nothing about, but well you know....


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/woke-meaning-word-history-b1790787.html


Lol...

Here, with no paywall, too.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woke#:~:text=The%20Oxford%20English%20Dictionary%20traces,American%20slang%20by%20white%20beatniks.

And as stated, more modernly popularized by BLM themselves.

YW
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and? you apparently failed to read what you are posting......

"In the U.S., members of the Republican Party have been increasingly using the term to criticize members of the Democratic Party, while more centrist members of the latter use it against more left-leaning members of their own party; such critics accuse those on their left of using cancel culture to damage the employment prospects of those who are not considered sufficiently "woke.".[2] Bacon connects this "anti-woke posture" to what he sees as the Republican Party's long standing promotion of backlash politics, such as conservative backlash in response to political gains by African Americans and changing cultural norms respectively.[67] Former U.S. President Donald Trump has frequently criticized wokeism and its adherents. At an Alabama rally in August 2021, Trump criticized Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, asking the audience if General Patton was "woke," then added: "You know what woke means, it means you’re a loser...Everything woke turns to shit."[68]"


Incidentally my posting had a standard click no offer to accept notifications, rather than an actual paywall...your bad...

oh and YW. Next time you might try reading before you post things, thanks
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I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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@xkonk Wow. My wife cooks. I do the dishes. I wonder what that means....


I'm unmarried. I can cook better than just about any one I know and I put my dishes in a dishwasher. You don't have to go to hell to know what goes on there... I wonder what that means?
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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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Incidentally my posting had a standard click no offer to accept notifications, rather than an actual paywall...your bad...

oh and YW. Next time you might try reading before you post things, thanks


It's not really my bad, it's a British web site. I'm good without it.

But now you know it was internally-assigned and used by those it describes.
A successful teaching moment.
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So now you have an issue with British as well. Cool....and now you know it is an insult in many modern contexts, so I agree, I did do a good job teaching here. You are welcome
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Done.


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would be nice to have a snugger fit. Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user
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So now you have an issue with British as well. Cool....and now you know it is an insult in many modern contexts, so I agree, I did do a good job teaching here. You are welcome


Lol.. I mean, it being a wholly American word, I guess we could check web sites from Australia, Namibia and Croatia, along with the Telegraph. Just as credible.

You literally said it was an externally-applied label, then went on to deride people for "tossing around terms they know nothing about". Now you know it was internally-created exactly as Dave said.

"But well, you know..." now.

Anyway, done arguing with a random on the internet. You're much more practiced at it. Enjoy.
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Wait a sec.... you mean all this time Al Simons was a black guy?

For sale.... Spawn #1-316......

It's a joke guys.
Just a little dark humor.
Trying to lighten up this thread a little.
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So now you have an issue with British as well. Cool....and now you know it is an insult in many modern contexts, so I agree, I did do a good job teaching here. You are welcome


Lol.. I mean, it being a wholly American word, I guess we could check web sites from Australia, Namibia and Croatia, along with the Telegraph. Just as credible.

You literally said it was an externally-applied label, then went on to deride people for "tossing around terms they know nothing about". Now you know it was internally-created exactly as Dave said.

"But well, you know..." now.

Anyway, done arguing with a random on the internet. You're much more practiced at it. Enjoy.
Since you are misquoting me, and then attempting to erect a straw man argument using it, here you go ...this is my exact quote.


"Woke is an externally applied label...it was done so for this thread for instance. How one interprets it CAN be based on perspective, but is not always, for instance when used as it was for this thread. It CAN be self applied , or externally. It CAN be neutral and descriptive, but often is not."

You are welcome.

Moving forward, you do realize that our national language, English is sort of a common language with Britain right?

But well, you know...

and you have fun !
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).
Splotches is gettin old!
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I was going to try to lighten things up by asking how everyone feel about the weather today?
About as neutral as one can get with a discussion topic, right?.

But then I thought to myself ... it could deteriorate to global warming ... and then I had visions of World War IV in the near future on here.

So I will not ask how does everyone feel about the weather.


Can we all maybe agree that 1 + 1 = 2? (Please don't throw stones at me if you disagree)
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lol great logic!
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