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Oh, a retread of the Batman: Robin coming out as bisexual thread.  |
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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| Why doesn’t DC make a Deadman movie? He has the ability to possess anybody’s body. You could be true to the source material and have as diversified a cast of big stars and unknowns as you want. It could be great. Have Deadman off camera talking about his search for justice - “I am Boston Brand, or used to be a long time ago. Here is my story.” Then a flashback to his death, set decades before the current time. Think of the setting, an old-time circus, it would be visually stunning. Families laughing at the clowns, elephants and lion tamers, the whole nine-yards. Then during the trapeze act, that shot rings out. Then they show Brand in the current day, maybe 20 or 30 years later, as a young man or woman. Then more flashbacks explaining some more parts of his story. And each time they come back to the present, Brand is someone else. Kind of like Quantum Leap, but more serious. What do you think? | ||
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| @esaravo good idea. The only Deadman I read was the two issue prestige format that came out around 1990 |
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 I haven't aired it out. It's part of the provenance.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 My opinion pretty much falls in line here. When Disney basically took over the Star Wars and Marvel franchises (so to speak), I envisioned a bloated product getting beat to death. I’m old school, and commercializing entities such as these is mainly a greedy money grab. I believe that executed ideas like this usually start falling apart because of over-reach in changing and/or adding to a product with very little thought except for making money. This tends to lead to a fractured product and loss of interest if it’s not maintained properly. I don't see it being much different than a speculated stock market, or comic buying and selling for that matter. This is just the opinion of a Gen X’er. 🤙  |
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| @esaravo I'd rather see an Impulse movie that is made in the same lighthearted way that Shazam was done. That way I can take my 8 year old to a comic book related movie and introduce him to another character. | ||
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by I think because "man" is on the "offensive" list now. |
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Plus, being dead, he is exceedingly white. So, a big no go. |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| Laughing alot about the comments suggesting that the stories shouldnt have a message or apply to the social reality around us...has anyone ever watched the original Star Trek Episodes and understood their meanings? It isnt like that idea is anything new or novel to marvel...for real folks, get a grip | ||
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| I love Deadman, I'd go see that movie in a heartbeat. | ||
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @Darkseid_of_town - Maybe I am wrong, but seems you may be directing to me in that comment. If so, let me be very clear on my stance. Smacking me across the face with oddly placed social/political commentary, character placement for inclusion sake, etc., no thanks. Good story lines, proper character development, coherent meaning with forethought and foresight. Sure. Huge fan of the original Star Trek series and most of the subsequent series and movies. And, very aware of the context and meanings of what they were doing. Disney/Marvel/Star Wars, unfortunately are too often moving away from Good story lines, proper character development, coherent meaning with forethought and foresight. and into the oddly placed social/political commentary, character placement for inclusion sake, etc. zone. HCtL |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town right? I wasn't around at the time of first release but they didn't seem as preachy as the current atmosphere. I mean - multiracial/cultural, referenced current wars (Vietnam, Cold War - we have a Russian crew member!!), one of the early inter-racial kisses (shocking back then folks!) - and that's just the original...then Voyager had a Woman captain...I mean....they shouldn't even be allowed to drive or vote but somehow a chick can be in charge without diminishing male co-stars and it's ok for her to ask opinions and receive help from men without diminishing her as Captain - insane I tell you...insane.... |
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| I made it about halfway through that article before giving up. No actual sources to speak of, just "rumors" and "buzz" that he likely invented himself. No skills as a reporter. His only talent as a writer seems to be shoehorning terrifying buzzwords like "woke" into every sentence. What a sad small fraction of a man. I wonder how many incel groups that silly little homonculus is a member of? As to the comments, to be clear, I don't like a story that beats me bloody with its message either. Messages in stories are fine, whether I agree or disagree makes no difference, but the message much be in service to the story, not the story to the message. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town The difference is that Star Trek did it with original characters, and it was innovative. This feels (to me) like more pandering by a Corporation that truly doesn't care about the message. I don't mean that to say they are in fact against the message at heart, but I honestly believe it's nothing more than, "If we want to attract new viewers, then..." |
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Quote:Originally Posted by ScifinatorMy comment was directed towards multiple people who suggested that having an underlying moral or trying to address current social issues do not belong in movies... Your own comment, directly from your post incidentally. ...."Movies, especially fictional movies, are supposed to be for entertainment and even escapism. They should not be agenda driven." That is in fact the very first line of your comment, agreed? You flatly stated and without qualifiers that movies, especially fictional must be for entertainment, and escapism and cannot have an agenda. So yes I am responding to that particular sentiment. So it appears that what you are arguing here is a moving goalpost, that is likely different for every viewer and each person. " Smacking me across the face with oddly placed social/political commentary, character placement for inclusion sake, etc., no thanks. " I would offer that first, if something is smacking you across the face, it likely isnt smacking everyone similarly. If you find it oddly placed, you may/may not be the majority , and the purpose for including it would be a value judgement also open to everyones seperate opinion. It is a moving scale and what makes everyones experiences different..it is not rigorous nor solid manner to evaluate how this should work. As with everyone who views a given movie or production you absolutely have a solid right to your own reaction to that...I agree. Do you have a right to suggest what my own experience should or should not include? For me thats a no, and that is my point...it is a moving scale and everyone can and should have their own viewpoints . It might be why so many horribly done schlocky movies have such cult followings from loyal fans .....etc. " |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomicsThe original series was full of firsts including stories about doomsday weapons, mans own often destructive nature, racism, and so many other ideals. I clearly remember the episode where the different members of a planet were killing each other in war after war because one side had faces that were black on the left side and the others faces were black on the right side. .....the messages were quite clear and obvious with little sugar coating given especially for that time period. It was agenda driven television programming to massive degree, but people still love the episodes! |
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| My Disney stock is doing great. I generally view anything that fits on a bumper sticker with suspicion because life is far more complicated than that. |
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| I think Feige should get a focus group together. It's time | ||
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| What one considers an "agenda," another calls it a reflection of society. You can easily argue that everyone has an agenda, including Ethan Van Sciver and the author of that article. It's all about perspective. Great thing about entertainment these days, we have so much to choose and, more importantly, what NOT to choose. Don't like it? Don't watch it. At least there's options. I remember the time when I had to wait 3 years between Batman movies, and maybe I'd get lucky enough to catch one of those made for tv movies with Daredevil or Hulk on NBC. Now there's so much content I can't keep up, including a ton of adult content like The Boys, Y The Last Man (big hopes for this one), and Invincible. If you can't find something you like and want to waste your energy debating how Marvel movies suck, go for it. As for Disney/Marvel -- feel free to rant or hope for their "failure." I think they'll be ok. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 They might, but considering everything in this country has to be a culture war, it won’t help. The thing is most people view gender swaps/ ethnicity swaps/ etc.. as some nefarious plot to make us all use the same bathroom or something and the truth is probably way more boring. Most comic creators don’t want to create an original character for the big 2 and lose control over it. Apparently, Disney gives the option of $5k OR an invite to the premier. That’s exciting, but if you’re a guy like Starlin, it’s probably not even remotely close to what Disney made of Thanos merch. And don’t even open up the Superman can of worms... The point being, people want to purchase comics of people who look like and have experiences they do. Creating new characters isn’t a viable option for most of the creators, so you get tinkering in the Marvel or DC sandbox. No tinfoil hats required. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy Notice that you never see that bumper sticker on a Mercedes... |
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| Would be funny if Shang-Chi comes out and everyone in this thread ends up loving it. Crazier things have happened. The trailers don't look so bad so I'm reserving judgement. With that said, seems safe to say The Eternals is gonna be a turd. |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by CatCovers For those of us with the misfortune of having read more than one article from that website, you nailed it on the head. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie This is the opposite of what I do. I buy science-fiction for escapism. It's probably the same reason that I think that Black Widow and Hawkeye are boring AF characters who have no business being Avengers when other-worldly threats are in play. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie Very true! Of course, the only sticker I'd expect to see on a Mercedes is, "Who the F**K puts a bumper sticker on a Mercedes???" |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie On a Mercedes, it's "S#@! happens to other people." |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus And great for you. It’s possible when you were younger you did. And, I’m guessing that you probably grew up in a world where the vast majority of character at least looked similar to you and shared many of your experiences. It’s not too much to ask for others to be able to have that same experience, is it? I mean, it’s not lost on anyone that this is mostly straight, white males discussing inclusion on this board, right? That’s not all by accident. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie I never took similarities between myself and fictional characters into consideration. I certainly didn't like Spawn because I'm a disfigured male with superpowers from Hell. At the cost of bastardizing others' original work? Yes. |
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| Just going off the thread's title, who has gone broke exactly? | ||
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