Thoughts on EGS15565
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Gustafson26 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| So I am new to comic grading and still have yet to send out my 1st order to CBCS. However, I came across a youtube video of EGS. I don't plan on submitting to them as the price for a grade and clean/press is more and the fact that they aren't "one of the 2", but what is the communities response to EGS? Other than their TAT I don't see a huge reason to use them? Are they PGX style and grade wiiiiide or do they do a good job? | ||
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 You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right?
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DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I've actually never heard of them. | ||
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I never heard of them. I'm sure they have quicker TAT's, but not because they're better. | ||
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Gustafson26 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Yea their TAT is like 21 days and have awesome custom labels but other than that I don't see much about them. They have been around for a few years and seem to be legit, as in, more legit than PGX lol. But EGS does seem to grade decent. Just curious on their cases and grading. | ||
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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flanders private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Avoid them like the plague. Their cases are crap and if you're looking for a fast turnaround because you're too impatient to use CBCS or CGC, you'd be better off with PGX. They also authenticate signatures using their expert service of reviewing your COA. Seems credible... https://egscomicsgrading.com/signature-authentication/ |
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Gustafson26 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I'm currently cycling through ebay for that deal of a century but they are all listed pretty good to the FMV of the books/ | ||
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| From what I have heard, they are two guys in Florida that reportedly grade using the Overstreet Guidelines. They offer custom labels, fast TAT’s, and even have signature verification services. They are pretty new, and it doesn’t seem like there are many books graded by them yet. Their slabs are made by Comic Skins I believe. | ||
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Same as this company? https://egscomicsgrading.com/about-us/ Hmmm, “accessing” the comics grade and referencing high school employment as core credentials… on a key page of their corporate site. This is a difficult market to penetrate because it is all about credibility - and it is tough to build credibility from scratch (nearly impossible). Their website alone gives me paws. ;-) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Cannot be written by an English speaker: "40 years of his life" "During his adulthood" Horribly written copy . . . |
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| So I don’t have any experience with them so I can’t say good or bad aside from what I’m seeing on the website. I am no fan of their labels. Looks like they have standard blue and yellow labels which you can “upgrade” for $5 to equally unattractive solid, bordered, or gradient labels in a variety of colors, which throws any color consistency out the window. For $10 you can create a custom label. Their examples are no more attractive than the colored labels but if you’ve got sufficient graphic design skills perhaps you can make something that looks good. Considering the regular flare ups of people wanting fancier or more visible labels, then perhaps this would be an option for them. Signed books are pretty much my bread and butter so this quote doesn’t fill me with confidence Quote: Originally Posted by EGS Website Maybe for less discerning collectors for whom a COA is as good as proof this might be a good option. They have a form similar to CBCS’ Signature Opp form, mostly used for mail-in sketches, but here they seem to use the form as secondary signature verification in case they are not able to verify the signature independently on their own. Seems a bit of a hassle and inconvenience to the creator to try to get that completed after the fact, if it is even possible in some cases. I also noticed that their pricing doesn’t seem to take i to account FMV so I wonder what their insurance situation is. The bottom of the pricing page does say the prices do not include shipping and insurance and the ToS states that the books are insured by EGS when in their possession. Unfortunately the online order form mentioned on the website is actually not available from what I have seen so I can’t say how they are figuring those costs. And they do say that international orders cannot always be insured for the same amount when returned so that’s a bit of a red flag for me. Additionally, the terms do state a pretty brutal “storage fee” for books that have been encapsulated but not fully paid for somehow of $100 per month or 3% of their value, whichever is greater. After three months, they take possession of the books to liquidate to recover their costs. The good news, though not necessarily about EGS is that I think you can see CBCS influencing the market and other would-be competitors as EGS also provides a RAW Grading and ART label option, long with signature verification. So, I would certainly not use them, at least not at this point. I am always curious to see new competitors and how things may play out. Right now it is not in their favor but I’ll be interested to see them sink or swim on their merits |
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 To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user | |
| They even do raw grading. Hell I might just give them a shot... |
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 past performance is no guarantee of future actions.
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Davethebrave it is hard to start from scratch...it's almost like a trade or something. I mean I can do electrical work, plumbing and other general household stuff without killing myself or setting the house on fire but I wouldn't advertise that I'm a pro- please let me work on your items that are possibly worth thousands of dollars. One would be better of saying they worked as a grader for XXX company or auction house for XX years - if I were to start a grading company that would be what I would do. I would work at as many grading houses as I could - move up in management and then by 30's or 40's branch out on my own. In my industry - wine making - that's what the cellar hands do - they jump around the globe harvesting in one hemisphere and then the other to get 2 harvests in per year - and then work their way up to assistant wine makers by working on different styles of wine and wine making as dictated by the region/hemisphere - eventually they go off to head smaller wineries etc. etc. - an accepted path rather than....Joe has enjoyed wine for nearly 40 years and has made small batch "you brew" for local events - before starting his own winery! |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I would do cbcs, cgc or just assign a grade myself / have someone I trust as a second pair of eyes. Wait for TATs to be more reasonable and use the best. | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The picture of the company president looks like a billboard for an Auto Accident Attorney. He could be the guy sent out to negotiate the deal, not the guy who grades your comic books. https://egscomicsgrading.com/about-us/ |
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past performance is no guarantee of future actions.
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KatKomics private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Guess it comes down to why do you want to grade a comic? If for re-sale then you need an established grading company to get top $$ - even PGX has been around for a while and doesn't get top $$ because of 'history' and chronic 'issues' if for PC - again why? protection?? board and mylite or top loader can be just as effective. |
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Masculinity takes a holiday.
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Siggy Quite true. In busy times, TAT's and reputation are closely correlated. |
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 -Our Odin-Rest in Peace |
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| If I recall correctly, on LinkedIn, one of them was an insurance agent or a realtor and kept switching agencies every 3 years or so. I'm thinking realtor, but it's been a while since I saw it. | ||
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 How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia As an auto accident attorney, I can’t disagree with this comment after clicking the link.  (For the record, I don’t look like that guy. But my firm doesn’t advertise either.) |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MutantMania Hmm, looks like they don't include restoration check nor the "tamper-proof" seal with their raw grade. Kind of a deal breaker for me |
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Davethebrave private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @KatKomics that is my point. Saying you apprenticed at x or worked to a certain level elsewhere, or had a leadership role, etc is how it works. This is a blend of science and art and above all is based on building a reputation. There are ways around the above that I won’t get into, but they certainly aren’t built on reputation shortcuts for a hands-on skill… |
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tonyz58 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| The grader made a youtube video with Regiecollects...he said new slabs are being evaluated...other grading companies are really needed but folks are hesitant to give them a chance..can't blame them | ||
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HairlessWookiee private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I decided to roll the dice on them today. I sent in two books to get graded with no pressing. I'm really curious to get their slabs in hand and evaluate them. We'll see how accurate that 21 day TAT is. | ||
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Had a chat with Tony (via IG) about the uphill battle for EGS but assured him I hope he is successful because competition is needed. The case has 4 hinges along the top that look horrendous but I know they are trying to find better ones. I think they are just a clamshell taped shut. The gimmicky labels they tout are something that takes away from credibility (for me). They constantly advertise how they make these custom colored labels to go with the covers... but I personally don't want that. Some might. I don't like CGC custom labels either for the same reason. I want a serious grading company with a consistent, subtle label that doesn't distract from the book. I once told him he needs to be more transparent with his photos because they always crop the hinges out. All their images on their site conveniently show no hinges at the top. Grading cred may come in time, but I hope he succeeds. |
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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esaravo private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Sigur_Ros - As I mentioned in an earlier post, they are using reusable slabs made by Comic Skin. You can buy the slabs directly from them, or on Amazon for around $85 for a 5 pack. Based on pictures, it looks like EGS places several small seals around the case that would have to be broken to open the case (fool proof, right). I wouldn’t doubt that EGS also uses the available Comic Skin label app to make their labels. I think competition is a good thing, too. But pretty much anybody on this forum that wants to invest $85 and has been in the hobby for a few years could open up a grading company and do the same thing. |
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Logan3claws private msg quote post Address this user | |
| If you want cheaper and faster TAT go with PGX. Their cases are pretty decent and solid. I know they have a bad past rep but they've cleaned up their issues a lot and their slabs still sell for a decent price. No disrespect to EGS but the slabs look like Walmart opened up a comic grading department. Cheap and gimmicky looking. Just my humble opinion though. | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by esaravo Gotcha. I looked at the Comic Skin site. The review video on there is both ridiculous and funny. But yes, looks just like the EGS slab. |
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Dawnstar It's actually "tamper-evident stickers" and not tamper proof  |
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50AE_DE private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Why not just buy some comicskins and have a "friend" grade and slap a custom label on the top of the "slab"? | ||
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by 50AE_DE That's exactly what I did. Except instead of a friend, it was me. And if interested I have a bunch of 9.9's and 10.5's on eBay. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by lawguy1977 As an attorney as well, I agree. But, also, with the black pants and the black background he reminds me of that character from Farscape that ate everything and floated around without walking anywhere, can't recall the name of it. |
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