CBCS versus CGC - your best pitch15516
 If I could, I would. I swear.
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| I like the older labels because they come from the Borock era and the grading is more on point. | ||
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If 8 years is the ballpark lifespan and reslabbing really IS necessary, shouldn't CGC be recalling all the modern labels by now? |
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| You're only going to get fanboy responses here. Oh, and if you posted at CGC, you'd get fanboy responses there, too. You'd simply get a lot more responses over there, with good reason. | ||
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash CGC slabs don't have a "shelf life", and they also are not air-tight. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| If you prefer to drop your books off at shows CBCS is the only game in town. CGC isn't doing it anymore. |
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| They are both solid companies with some minor differences that could impact your choice. CBCS has better cases, in my opinion. CGC has the custom labels. CBCS is a little less expensive and quicker TAT. CGC has the following and is considered the Coke, Macy’s, GM by many. I say go with what suits your needs best. Oh, and please share your pictures of books when you get them back. There isn’t much better than seeing some cool books! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie Whichever comes up with Star Wars labels first can take all my money... LOL |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie Which are hideous. |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Really? No show drop offs at all? Not even for dealers? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus I would address my concerns at CGC but for a long time now I have been unable to post on their site. Marty |
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Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus They aren’t a selling point to me, either, but some people love them. Potential plus for some people so I figured I’d mention. Kudos to CGC for trying something different. |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie I might be less-hateful of the labels if CGC didn't make them available only temporarily. You better submit all of your comics in that 3-month window, otherwise you're SOL. |
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 would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie My favorite one is the Fantastic 3  |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros Three and a Half Men. |
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Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Sigur_Ros HERBIE must be behind Reed or something...lol. Yeah, I’m not defending the labels, just stating that CGC has them. Some people get heavy breathing over it, but I’m not willing pay for it. |
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etapi65 private msg quote post Address this user | |
| For me, grading serves two purposes. Experts providing a reasonably accurate assessment of my collectible's quality. A case that protects my collectible. I prefer CBCS because of reason 1. At least dating 2018 CBCS seems demonstrably more accurate at grading. Though I have some books I've questioned from CGC dating to 2017 that seemed too high to me. For portion 2, I haven't done anything to any of my cases from either that would lead me to believe one encapsulation product is sturdier than the other. So, then look at secondary components. CGC labeled books, your eye is drawn to the label first, then the book. CBCS your eye is drawn to the book first, NOT the label; I prefer that. CBCS is less expensive. CBCS doesn't appear to be openly hostile against their competitor to create a monopoly to further exploit customers...like CGC seems to be. At cons, CBCS booth people have always helpful. In a couple of cases they've gone over and above to help me out with getting sketches/sigs witnessed. CGC has always made me feel like I'm just a number throwing money at them and they really don't give two craps about the collectors. They just want your money. That's fine, they're a business. The only pro of CGC is that for some reason the collector's market regards them more highly despite evidence to the contrary. As I'm not collecting to flip and make profit, this is irrelevant to me. CGC also has a vast machine of sponsorship to do everything in their power to keep CBCS out of eyeshot. Blogger sponsors, youtube channel support, sites like comicsgocollect where you have to literally toggle on CBCS to see those sales. I get to choose a cheaper, more accurate, treats you like a person company over the opposite...so I do. |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
I don't know why people claim that, "CGC cases draw your eyes to the label as opposed to the book", as that has never been the cases for me or anyone that I know. Must be a defect with CBCS fanboy eyes...  |
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics They changed their stance on that a while back. After years of recommending people reslab every 7-10 yrs, they decided it actually wasn't necessary after all. Rumors say they changed their tune when CBCS stated you never have to reslab CBCS cases. That timing is not confirmed though  It is unknown how many people got refunded for reslabbing based on CGC's recommendation, though I'm sure it was everyone. Or maybe no one. |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson  Talked to them on the phone. They are only taking trading cards at shows. |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus The CGC label design team would probably take offense at this statement. |
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 To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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| I just seal my books in saran wrap and scotch tape |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Quote:Originally Posted by MutantMania Sounds like a do it yourself condom..... |
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrusI believe it comes from the bright white box. I’ve always thought the box should reflect page quality, but whatever. |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash It's just a sticker. *shrug* Are you saying that you think the sticker should be the color of PQ? If so, that would be interesting, but also probably ugly below Off-White. Is the grade easier to see than on CBCS labels? Absolutely. That doesn't make it the main attraction for CGC's slabs. I'm just glad that CBCS changed their label awhile back, because IMO it used to be hideous. |
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would be nice to have a snugger fit.
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Sigur_Ros private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash And the big, obnoxious, shiny hologram "price sticker" on the right, that should be stuck to the back. |
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theCapraAegagrus private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sigur_Ros I can agree with this. All of the "guaranty" information is already back there. |
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| CGC is Kleenex. CBCS is facial tissue. One is the industry standard. The other came along later and is virtually identical. |
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