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| @Towmater all very good points. I'm sure obesity will one day be a topic covered by comics. In my opinion, comics are more "art imitating life" oriented. When obesity becomes the new hot topic, that is when comics will address it. And by "comics", I'm talking DC, Marvel and Image. There are so many indie publishers now that it's near impossible to know what topics they all are covering. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O @Jesse_O Just fyi, I think that list is not based on sales popularity. Looks like it is ranked based on a small number of reviews. Not to undermine the point, but I would be shocked if some of those titles have replaced X-men. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia That's a fair point. What I posted was more like Yelp reviews of a restaurant. So, here is data on the top 50 comics, by units sold, in 100 shops for May, 2021. I think it still serves the point to show that genres other than superhero stories have some serious competition right now.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave But people with below average IQ's don't typically play major roles in society (although some say different). So maybe they could be the sidekicks. Sub-mariner could have a sidekick named Sub-100. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jesse_O Which they need, because talent has been spread thin for years, and DC and Marvel in particular need to consolidate titles/talent and cut the fat. Been saying this for years. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Funny sidekick idea but the rest is ??? Below-median-IQ people “don’t typically play major roles in society” … first, really? As individuals, but particularly in aggregate, this appears incorrect. Second, what does that have to do with representation in comics and the media? The media and comics both significantly alter typical representation (numbers) in a whole host of areas so why not have below average or average intelligence characters as main characters? Now, of course the reason is obvious - most people don’t view themselves as part of that group. Seems a massive group not adequately represented, especially in terms of positive role models. Even the brawn-based characters tend to be at least somewhat sharp… |
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| @Davethebrave Great points. I honestly wish more comics explored this. More often than not, heroes are pretty good, well-adjusted and of sufficient intelligence to function. What happens when a paranoid schizophrenic has the power of Superman. What if hulk were some kind of radical fundamentalist? What if spider-man had an IQ below 70? What if you have a Superman level character who gets dementia? And how would other heroes deal with this fact? Could be a lot of good stories there. And, yes, I know about Legion, Scarlet Witch and others, but I don’t think they’ve really spent much time on it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie DC would fall back on Batman to have planned out how to take out everyone if they went off the rails. Not original at all, but it would allow them to pump some more Batman titled books out there. DC has become the company that only has one hero that every other character in their universe revolves around. Batman, Batman, Batman. Yeah, Batman's the answer. So, so, lame. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater I won't argue the point, you're pretty much right. But it's not as if that's new, for either of the big 2. Remember when everything revolved around the X-Men/Wolverine? I think it's just the nature of the beast, in the end these are businesses looking to make money. So you pander to your most popular characters. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie We saw some after-effects of this in the Logan movie, and the idea is very titillating. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus I don’t recall that in Logan, but I’ll need to give it a rewatch. There was a movie, Broadchurch, I think it was, and it was basically Superman as a boy. I remember DC had at least one elseworlds that explored Superman landing in Soviet Russia instead of Kansas. Not quite the same, but still interesting. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie Professor X in Logan. The Westchester Incident. Superman: Red Son.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus That’s the one! You’re memory is much better than mine. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater I mean, you’re not wrong here, but I guess I’m thinking more like if Superman had Alzheimer’s, your heroes are going to have make tough decisions as to whether to put him down or not. You’re right in comic writers might (almost certainly will) punt here, but can you imagine it handled well? I think there’s a ton of potential here. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie I believe the movie your are thinking of is Brightburn - kid with superman-like powers turns into a psychopath. |
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| @obrie2tm Yes! Thank you. I knew Broadchurch sounded off, but was close to what I was after. I thought it was a good flick. |
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| The movie Chronicle follows three teens who get superpowers from a green glowing object in a cave. One of the teens turns evil. It shows the decisions that have to be made. | ||
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This is not a new subject, just dealt with differently than, say, 75 years ago.   |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave This is a bit of a misunderstanding of statistics for IQ. IQ is a standardized measure, so both mean, median, and mode are always 100, with standard of deviation at 15 on either side. The scores are standardized to make a "normal distribution". The median is therefore artificial unlike a typical simple set of data. An IQ of 85 is the bottom of average, but is in the 15th percentile (higher than 15% of the population) and an IQ of 115 is the top of average and is the 85th percentile. So for superheroes to be "above average" they would have to be in the top 15% of people. In my experience that is not how they are generally presented, excepting characters like Batman who are noted for intelligence. Full disclosure I'm a math teacher . |
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| With China’s announcement this past week I wonder if AT&T allows WB and DC to continue the path they have moved down? Does WB/DC play to the 330 million in the USA or the 1.5 billion in China? Do the big studios make products like in the past were “messages and plot lines” are easily edited out or do they go in another direction? However it turns out it is going to be entertaining and enlightening to watch. |
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| Batman has always been a solo character to me, so the sidekick character of Robin has always been gay IMO. | ||
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