You damaged my comic book ! .. YOU DAMAGED MY COMIC BOOK !!15419
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Quote:Originally Posted by Mrtimely2 Well, THAT clears it up. |
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 Thank you sir. May I have another?
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| fwiw GCD lists Shores as the artist, but seems unclear on the inker. | ||
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a Syd Shores cover example for comparison. |
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 past performance is no guarantee of future actions.
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Quote:Originally Posted by the420bandito not that I want to critique Nazi skeletons but......one lady stacked on top of the other makes it difficult to experiment on the second subject...also...lady on the bottom has no restraints!!!...sloppy work Nazi Skeleton...sloppy work! |
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| Ouch, that's a shame. I must say if I got that book back safe and sound amidst the current state of things, I wouldn't have sent it back, much less a third time. I know you said you cracked it but I'm curious, did the 3rd label say Schomburg or Shores? |
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| Okay - so the cover artist is in dispute. So CBCS may not have made a mistake. Submitter / customer’s opinion on what the label should say doesn’t matter. The fact CGC labels otherwise doesn’t matter. The above calls into question multiple submissions and “correction” requests. It may call into question the cause of the damage - because redoing a process on an older imperfect book is always a risk. Of course it doesn’t excuse anything exactly but perhaps a slightly different balance of facts here? I am a big advocate of customer service and so again not taking sides but saying one’s opinion of an artist should govern a third party’s certification is a bit… odd. |
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| Why is the OP too lazy to post a couple photos that he supposedly has already sent to CBCS? It would literally take him less than 30 seconds to do. Not posting photos is making him look like an old fraud. | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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| For me, anyone who comes in reasonable and rational gets the benefit of the doubt. Anyone who comes in hot and using accusatory and inflammatory language automatically loses the benefit of the doubt and they need to be ready to defend everything they said. The title of the thread is usually a tipoff. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Dawnstar The one shown states "cover:Alex Schomburg & Syd Shores" |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Please refer to the original post and reason: "Background .. This book Cap #29, had been submitted THREE TIMES to get the label corrected, it is an Alex Shomburg cover, not Syd Shores." This whole exercise was undertaken so that the submitter could get a "corrected" label. I surmise that CBCS/CGC may know better the actual cover artist(s) given that it is an integral part of their remit. |
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Quote:Originally Posted by RRO If that was the case CBCS would've told the customer not to resubmit the comic because the label would remain unchanged. |
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @Dawnstar - looking at the 2nd pic it listed both. | ||
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| @RRO I know. Note that CGC agrees with the OP (or historically has). So there may be a basis for confusion. My only point is that you cannot reasonably force a third party certifier to change their determination if something is indeed disputed. It would get rid of the whole point of third party certification - might as well make your own label and give your own grade. |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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| According to Marvel Shomburg penciled the cover, Shores penciled the stories, inks by Alascia. But it may remain unclear as to when they worked/which covers they worked together. After all it happened quite a bit ago.clickable text | ||
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I think this is partly why I am a minimalist on Label content. I don't know why artist/writers/inkers or 1st appearance, or 1st cameo, need to be on the label for a company who's mission statement is grading a comic. I recognize I'm in the minority, but the labels could be wrong/disputed. As for the correctness of 1st appearances - I won't even go there, nor the implications when it is wrong or disputed. The grade number and verified/witnessed is within the mission statement of both grading companies and what both are purportedly good at. If one wants 1st appearance, who did the cover, who did the inks, who did writing, etc... - consult google. Other than the damage on this book, this thread has partly become two pages worth of Finkel or Einhorn |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I like having that information on the label but you are 100% correct in asking why it's even there. We are talking about grading companies...not comic historians (even though they may (or may not) know their stuff). Its a valid observation.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 All good points. However; as listing cover artists is the norm on slabbed comics the OP is justified in expecting an accurate portrayal of such things. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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Quote:Originally Posted by RRO Good point. Maybe omit the information when information is disputed? I dunno. |
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Masculinity takes a holiday.
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| Bet the book doesn't go back a 4th time for a more accurate label in terms of grading. | ||
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 Please continue to ignore anything I post.
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Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross And still waiting to see pictures where the book wasn't damaged showing the label. Prior to the last submission |
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 Why just the women? I like bears.
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| @Mrtimely2 Why won't you post pictures? | ||
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @southerncross @Gaard - And furthermore, why just a partial pick of the intact CBCS encasement. I mean come on, surely there was a photo of the original encasement showing the "incorrect" label that would also reflect the before condition of the "damaged" comic. And for that matter, the second re-submission. I reiterate, something is not right here and does add up. | ||
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Masculinity takes a holiday.
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| And possibly the most important overlooked question...what happened to Mrtimely1? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Sure doesn't seem he's being...very timely with his response. 🤭 |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 Or maybe he's going to be so timely that our heads are gonna spin like a top!! |
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Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC lol, my joke fell flat. The member is Mrtimely2...I was asking about Mrtimely1. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia lol!!!! Damn it! I missed that!! #1 is over on the CGC boards....we're #2 so we get #2. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Peacemaker: This forum cant' afford MrTimely1 | ||
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 I've spent years perfecting my brand of assholery.
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| Wouldn't MrTimely1 just be MrTimely? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Dawnstar Haha, interesting question, it stated " cover, Alex Schomburg and Syd Shores".. |
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