SHAME!!!! MG Comics in Montreal Canada.15199
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Quote:Originally Posted by SamPool Well it is possible that the seller isn't the person who originally paid CGC for grading. If that's the case then I don't guess CGC would regrade for free or give a credit. Maybe they would but I'd be surprised. This is a bad situation. The seller appears to have an excellent eBay record (lots of positive feedback). I'm betting he knows that the book isn't a 9.6 but needs to sell it to make the money back that was spent to buy it. I sure won't be buying it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 I've only done business with CGC once and it was for a mislabeled slab that I purchased online. They didn't care if I was the original owner and paid to fix it as a "mechanical error" free of charge. To my surprise they even paid next day air both ways even though I would've been happy with priority mail instead. If they're willing to pay for a reholder and next day air shipping both ways, I don't see why they would have problem regrading. Especially since this is now an active topic on two forums and facebook.  I can't find the photo of the reslab. |
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| Here's a theory, consigner gets two of the same issues graded, one is a 9.6 and the other a 7.5. The labels are accidentally switched around by mistake during encapsulation. Consigner receives the books and notices straight away a problem. Stays quiet and cracks the high grade out of the 7.5 and submits to get a 9.6. Nice little score to keep the genuine and sell the mislabeled 9.6 for a profit. Just a hypothesis you understand. And no way am I saying the seller is involved. They may have bought it second hand from the consigner or it changed hands a couple of times. |
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DWeeB1967 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by flanders That would be great if they'd do something like that in this situation. If the owner asked them to, that is. |
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| @southerncross mind blown! | ||
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| @southerncross A scenario like the one you mentioned seems much more likely in this case than a grader simply missing the mark by this much. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by flanders I've been watching way too much Colombo lately. This scenario seems to be a good possibility. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 I can't believe there is any discussion on the CGC board of this possibly being a grader who had a bad day. If this is just the case of a bad day, then third party grading is a complete fiction. I think @southerncross nailed it, but he overlooked the dead body in the corner of the room. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross I LOVE Columbo!!  |
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| @DWeeB1967 I watched re runs as a kid and I'm watching the series ATM on Amazon. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Yeah I don't get that defense either... they claim every book is supposed to be independently verified by at least 1 more grader, so how does that fit with 1 grader having a bad day? The fanboys are eating their own tails. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross If you happen to have a local MeTV channel they play Columbo episodes, too.  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 SIR!! Oh Sir, just one more thing. |
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| This is definitely a problem with the seller. It is potentially knowing fraud despite the third party grade… as a pro comic dealer and having taken the detailed photos, it is clear the book isn’t even in the range of the labeled grade and it was a slabbing error. CGC didn’t make a grading mistake - they made an encapsulation/labeling mistake. The seller is knowingly passing this off as a legitimate 9.6 and they are behaving like it is a legit 9.6 as I made several offers at around FMV for its more likely grade and they are auto-rejected. They are waiting for someone - even someone with poor eyesight - who to buy solely off the CGC grade. Anyone slamming CGC here for crappy grading is off the mark. CGC grades “competently” and similar to CBCS. But mistakes happen and this mistake was intentionally ignored by whoever had the grading done… it is like seeing a huge and obvious bank error and trying to spend the money. Also, the book listing is STILL incorrect! The seller is trying to cover their butts with the photos but since they are a dealer I would think the law would hold them under a higher standard (I am not educated in Canadian law but they are also marketing to US customers). They should state the grading error in their listing. Photos are not enough. All of the above is my personal, not legal, opinion ;-) |
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| They weren't claiming it was just a grader having a bad day, someone mentioned something about that in the thread but no one actually said they thought that was what happened. General consensus was it was a mislabeled slab. As for those wanting to trash CGC for it...do you not remember the multiple books posted recently with wrong labels from cbcs as well? It happens to all of them I'm sure. Especially with increased submissions and I'm sure they're all being pushed to churn out slabs as quickly as possible so the customer base doesn't start storming the castle due to drastically increased TATs. As far as the seller...they're a shop that deals in comics, both raw and stabbed. They know that book isn't a 9.6. I'm sure they probably suspect an error was made. To then sell the book and not give some kind of disclaimer seems shady. I'd bet cgc would gladly regrade for free whether they were the ones who had it graded or not, just to get that kind of erroneous book out of the market to not affect their reputation. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| With these types of topics that have a wide range of varying opinions, I always ask myself "what would I do". If one considers themselves an upstanding, respectable, decent individual its a fair question to ask. That said, I could not in good faith list this book for sale without caveats stated in the description. My feelings of cgc will be silent here as I don't want to go off on another incompetence rant. The fact is that book is out there in public domain and owned. So what should that seller do? And I feel caveats in the description is the right approach |
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| I agree with Dave, this listing is greasy as hell and the seller should be ashamed. Mistake or just terrible inconsistency in grading is irrelevant. |
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| I sent a polite communication to the seller through Ebay. Let him know that this book is causing his integrity to be questioned on the forums. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia I would love to hear what they say in response or if they even care.. The listing is still up and it looks like they reduced the price by C $1000. Nothing but greed!!!  |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Pvadacchino Georges helped me out a lot when it came to filling some CPV runs of X-Men and other titles. I agree, he can be a little high on prices but his service was stellar. It kind of surprises me a little that he listed this because he has always been stand-up in my interactions with him. Quote: Originally Posted by DWeeB1967 I sent a reholder to CGC just for a label notation, and everything was free of charge. While I disagree with how the company does some things, I will give their service department props. They've always been good to work with. That said, I've heard CGC will sometimes try to buy a book back if a person is knowingly trying to exploit mix ups in labels, etc. There was a Marvel Premiere #15 from a few years back that comes to mind. I think it was labelled as a 9.0 or 9.2, but it clearly was much lower in grade. There was a bidding war on ebay for it, and I had heard rumor that CGC may have gotten involved in the bidding to get the book back and correct it. The seller refused to send it back and auctioned it off. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross Onlyweaknesskryptonite posted a similar guess here, I agree w/you both that the book wasn't labeled correctly. https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/493759-96/?do=findComment&comment=11887293 It looks to be about a 6.0/6.5....the color breaking 1" crease top RC FC is a huge red flag that nobody looked at the book in QC. The seller is trying to cash in on CGC's labeling error, he dropped it down 1k already. CGC should contact the seller an tell him he has 2 choices if he wants to retain his CGC submission privileges. 1) Remove listing from eBay and return slab to CGC, return shipping on CGC. CGC will either pay seller the GPA average for the accurate grade (6.5 or so. 2) Remove listing & CGC regrades the book for free via walk thru tier with all shipping costs paid by CGC. 3) Don't pull the listing & get a lifetime ban from subbing books to CGC. I use CGC & CBCS for selling books. If this seller wants to effectively tarnish CGC's brand & deceive a buyer into purchasing a incorrectly labeled slab or force CGC to pay several thousand dollars to have the book taken off the market, than the seller should pay a price |
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| Looks like the listing has been taken down again...maybe he noticed there was an error in listing it as Strange Tales #169 instead of Doctor Strange. | ||
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| Has anyone contacted CGC and let them know of this label error? CGC may reach out to the seller and come to an agreement that satisfies both parties. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Studley_Dudley If this is there intention, how is it not the same type of greed, regardless if the person purchasing the book is a collector or CGC. |
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| And it just sold, for about 2800. Someone's gonna be upset. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 I'd bet CGC bought it. |
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SamPool private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 I thought the listing was taken down? Do you have a link? |
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I use the app so I don't have a link, but this is what I got an email about it. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Sebastsk8 That is the same as this link. https://www.ebay.ca/itm/174843175720 But I think it was ended by the seller and not sold. If you use the app go to "Seller's other items" then Filter on "Sold Items", that book does not show up. |
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| It's only showing he sold like 20 items in the past 3 months, so somethings not working with that. If the seller removes the item I usually get a different email than if it's sold. | ||
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