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It makes me cringe when I see high grade copies of legit SA keys with Stan's signature on it. But, yes, they do go for a premium for the collectors that are into that type of stuff. Since he signed anything that was put in front of him, I should have had him sign my home loan application.


@Studley_Dudley - Cringe away, my man. Cringe away.




I only say that as I am actually more on your side of the track. I really do not, as a general rule, like my covers signed. If i do have any of my comics personally signed in the future, it will either be like my first signed comic Marvel Fanfare #1 which Michael Golden signed on the inside back in 1992, or i will have the back cover signed, or perhaps have the back/label aree of CBCS encasement signed as it would likely be for my own personal (Force Ghost) collection.




I would never have bought this Wolverine #1 if the signatures (especially Miller's) was in blank ink. Now since it is in gold ink and signed by both Lee and Miller at SDCC on the same day, adds some uniqueness to it, but again if it were in black ink, I would have dumped as I agree with your "defaced" sentiment.




Conversely, this Stan Lee signature on my Star Wars #1, in black, is very well place and otherwise melded in well with the artwork. imho




Getting back to @SidTheSquid - Does a signature add value, yes. But depending on the signature and the comic, it may only add $25 but could add upwards of $500 or even higher depending on how prevalent/rare and how desired that signer is. Just a quick example, on the Wolverine # 1 above, I had recently been $1,800 and 1,900 for it. Recent sales, over the past two months, of the same comic without a signature have been from $500 - $1,200 most being in the $750 - $1,100 range. One might extrapolate that these signatures added at least $800 to the value. I have also seen that there is a Green Label Joe Quesada/Palmiotti signed X-O Manowar 0 9.8 Ivory error variant on ebay for a year at $80...Unsold still. Granted, it is a green label, but the Ivory error Variant brings the value up somewhat. Then there is a 9.8 VSP Red label Quesada for $100, and still not sold.

Again, who are the signers, when were they signed, what is the placement, witnessed, vsp, or not. There are no hard fixed answers on this.



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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
I have a few books signed and they're all by the old guys. I definitely prefer books unsigned but having some signed by the greats is pretty cool too. I'd love an early Spidey signed by Ditko. I have little to no interest in books signed by any modern artists or writers. I have a Neal Adams signed book which is neat but anyone later than him, not really interested.

I do own modern raw books signed by modern artists and writers that I got when I got back into collecting that I'd sell without any problem whatsoever.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
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I have a few books signed and they're all by the old guys. I definitely prefer books unsigned but having some signed by the greats is pretty cool too. I'd love an early Spidey signed by Ditko. I have little to no interest in books signed by any modern artists or writers. I have a Neal Adams signed book which is neat but anyone later than him, not really interested.

I do own modern raw books signed by modern artists and writers that I got when I got back into collecting that I'd sell without any problem whatsoever.


I had books signed by Len Wein, Denny O'Neil, and Joe Sinnott at conventions in the last few years.

At the time I had them signed these signatures were not so difficult or expensive to obtain.

Now these signatures carry a much higher premium.

As for more recent artists I am very happy to have paid to have books signed by Todd McFarlane, Rob Liefeld, J Scott Campbell, Jim Lee, etc.

While we all have our preferences the value of books ultimately comes down to supply and demand.
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Pictures? We don't need no stinking pictures. brysb private msg quote post Address this user
I'm also not a big fan of signed comics. It makes me cringe when I see a high grade key comic signed, especially when the signature is scrawled over faces or other significant areas.
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Some of the modern guys Ive never even heard of or care to...I am somewhat abivalent about J scott Campbell, as his female characters are far too cartoony looking to me. I Am fond of Todd McFalane's work and have a few signed by him, I think he will always be one of the greats. Jim Lee, I dont think I own anything signed for, but might consider it....as for Liefeld, I would likely pay at conventions for him NOT to sign anything I have.
A few modern artists I do like ...Ross, and Brooks. I also like King and Ewing for their writing skills.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
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Some of the modern guys Ive never even heard of or care to...I am somewhat abivalent about J scott Campbell, as his female characters are far too cartoony looking to me. I Am fond of Todd McFalane's work and have a few signed by him, I think he will always be one of the greats. Jim Lee, I dont think I own anything signed for, but might consider it....as for Liefeld, I would likely pay at conventions for him NOT to sign anything I have.
A few modern artists I do like ...Ross, and Brooks. I also like King and Ewing for their writing skills.


I remember when Rob would sign X-Factor 11 for $20-30, now it is more like $60 or $80 (not sure of current prices).
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I remember when Rob would sign X-Factor 11 for $20-30, now it is more like $60 or $80 (not sure of current prices).

He has different prices for different books?
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I wouldn't pay 0 cents for a Rob Liefeld signature, but that's just me. I still laugh when I see a New Mutants #98 selling for more than 99 cents!
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I remember when Rob would sign X-Factor 11 for $20-30, now it is more like $60 or $80 (not sure of current prices).


He has different prices for different books?

Yup...wanna guess what NM98 costs?...more than X-Factor 11.
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I wouldn't pay 0 cents for a Rob Liefeld signature, but that's just me. I still laugh when I see a New Mutants #98 selling for more than 99 cents!


I'm not a fan of him either but you have to give the guy credit. He was one of THE artists in the 90s..created (co-created ?) Deadpool and he does have a following.
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I wouldn't pay 0 cents for a Rob Liefeld signature, but that's just me. I still laugh when I see a New Mutants #98 selling for more than 99 cents!


I'm not a fan of him either but you have to give the guy credit. He was one of THE artists in the 90s..created (co-created ?) Deadpool and he does have a following.


I suppose, but in hindsight he rates 99.9% on my horrible meter!
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
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I remember when Rob would sign X-Factor 11 for $20-30, now it is more like $60 or $80 (not sure of current prices).

He has different prices for different books?


Yes, New Mutants 98 & 87 along with X-Factor 11 (cheapest of the three) cost more.

I would not be surprised if he started charging more for X-Factor 2 or other books as prices go up on the books themselves.
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I remember when Rob would sign X-Factor 11 for $20-30, now it is more like $60 or $80 (not sure of current prices).
He has different prices for different books?


Yes, New Mutants 98 & 87 along with X-Factor 11 (cheapest of the three) cost more.

I would not be surprised if he started charging more for X-Factor 2 or other books as prices go up on the books themselves.



I had him sign an X-Force #2. It was $20 at the time and in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for. drchaos private msg quote post Address this user
@DrWatson That was the charge last time for me ss well.

I will see him next month.

Hopefully prices are still the same.
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Cover, 8 pages before the staples, 8 pages after, back cover. MrNotSoNice private msg quote post Address this user
I think the Jack Kirby signature adds about $500 to the value of this book, but it is priceless to me.


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I think the Jack Kirby signature adds about $500 to the value of this book, but it is priceless to me.




ditto!!


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Cover, 8 pages before the staples, 8 pages after, back cover. MrNotSoNice private msg quote post Address this user
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ditto!!


@GAC That's a beautiful New Gods #1. Should I send mine in to be re-slabbed with the yellow label?


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ditto!!


@GAC That's a beautiful New Gods #1. Should I send mine in to be re-slabbed with the yellow label?




Boom!!!!!!!!! Yes you should!!!
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I personally love the SS books but I like them on lower to mid grade copies and they have to have either created the character or worked on the book in some capacity rather it was the cover, inker, writer , editor. I can't stand sigs of people who have nothing to do with the book. I only like tasteful signature placement as well to not take away to much from the cover.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
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I can't stand sigs of people who have nothing to do with the book


There goes my dream of one day setting up at a con and charging to sign random comic books for people.
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I only like tasteful signature placement as well to not take away to much from the cover.

I will probably never own a Chris Claremont signature for this reason.
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I only like tasteful signature placement as well to not take away to much from the cover.

I will probably never own a Chris Claremont signature for this reason.


This is my favorite Chris Claremont signature placement:


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We should have the forum rate our packages. HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user
I will probably never understand why everyone thinks Kirby’s art is so good. Whatcha gonna do?
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I can't stand sigs of people who have nothing to do with the book


There goes my dream of one day setting up at a con and charging to sign random comic books for people.


I want to go to an authorized witness and just sign a book in front them so I can submit it and get a 9.8. I'd probably do it to some worthless drek like Darkhawk 1.
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We should have the forum rate our packages. HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user
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I can't stand sigs of people who have nothing to do with the book


There goes my dream of one day setting up at a con and charging to sign random comic books for people.


I want to go to an authorized witness and just sign a book in front them so I can submit it and get a 9.8. I'd probably do it to some worthless drek like Darkhawk 1.
ive done this. It comes back on the label, “witnessed sig, Big Baller”.
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I only like tasteful signature placement as well to not take away to much from the cover.

I will probably never own a Chris Claremont signature for this reason.

Would you consider letting him sign the bottom of the first page ?
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I only like tasteful signature placement as well to not take away to much from the cover.

I will probably never own a Chris Claremont signature for this reason.


This is my favorite Chris Claremont signature placement:



I'd like to do this exact thing with chris if he signs my xmen 94
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We should have the forum rate our packages. HeinzDad private msg quote post Address this user
Hey @Scifinator, higher grade and better signature placement.




Sort of???????
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Does anyone know when Stan Lee decided that one "e" on the end of his signature was enough? A lot of his signatures look like Stanle.
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Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC? Scifinator private msg quote post Address this user
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Hey @Scifinator, higher grade and better signature placement.




Sort of???????

@HeinzDad - I got your higher grade and your signature placement right here:






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