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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
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"We are asking for your feedback. Please look at the samples and email us at labels@cbcscomics.com telling us your choice for the label and font, and give a brief description of what you like or dislike about it"

People are not good at following directions.

I don't have email


Just curious. If you don't have email, how did you sign up for an account on here?


I use the biometric feature under account setup.
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COLLECTOR Foghorn_Sam private msg quote post Address this user
Definite improvement, but still not a nice as the original label (sorry). The smallest lettering is still pretty small.
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Collector Despain private msg quote post Address this user
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"We are asking for your feedback. Please look at the samples and email us at labels@cbcscomics.com telling us your choice for the label and font, and give a brief description of what you like or dislike about it"

People are not good at following directions.

I don't have email


Just curious. If you don't have email, how did you sign up for an account on here?


I use the biometric feature under account setup.


That's cool. I didn't see an option for that. I still don't. LOL.
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Collector Mio private msg quote post Address this user
I still like the original, but this is a step up from V2.
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Collector mattness private msg quote post Address this user
Anyone else seem it a bit ironic that as hard as CBCS works to separate themselves (we have all seen that they do work very hard) from CGC, CBCS customers continue to morph the CBCS label into CGC's? not hating just an observation.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
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"We are asking for your feedback. Please look at the samples and email us at labels@cbcscomics.com telling us your choice for the label and font, and give a brief description of what you like or dislike about it"

People are not good at following directions.

I don't have email


Just curious. If you don't have email, how did you sign up for an account on here?


I use the biometric feature under account setup.


That's cool. I didn't see an option for that. I still don't. LOL.


Alright Alright you got me no biometrics, I do have email. Lol
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Collector zosocane private msg quote post Address this user
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Anyone else seem it a bit ironic that as hard as CBCS works to separate themselves (we have all seen that they do work very hard) from CGC, CBCS customers continue to morph the CBCS label into CGC's? not hating just an observation.


That's why I like the proposed white label. Label B is CGC's blue label. If you look carefully at the old CBCs said label, it was a morph of white and blue. Looks really nice.
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Emailed
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COLLECTOR Foghorn_Sam private msg quote post Address this user
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Anyone else seem it a bit ironic that as hard as CBCS works to separate themselves (we have all seen that they do work very hard) from CGC, CBCS customers continue to morph the CBCS label into CGC's? not hating just an observation.


That's why I like the proposed white label. Label B is CGC's blue label. If you look carefully at the old CBCs said label, it was a morph of white and blue. Looks really nice.


Yes, that's what I liked about the old label, the subtle gradient from top to bottom from blue to white to blue.
Plus, what's the purpose of the solid blue line across the top? That more than anything makes it look like CGC's label. Leave that out and go back to the gradient like the old label had as described above.
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Collector rdowdy95 private msg quote post Address this user
B&D
Will also vote over email.
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Originally Posted by mattness
Anyone else seem it a bit ironic that as hard as CBCS works to separate themselves (we have all seen that they do work very hard) from CGC, CBCS customers continue to morph the CBCS label into CGC's?

I don't disagree, but cgc pretty much set the pace. It would seem less confusing to follow their general color scheme in order to maintain continuity.
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Collector silverage_shane private msg quote post Address this user
I do like the color gradient idea. That would look great. Still clean and simple, but also unique.
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Collector CopperAgeKids private msg quote post Address this user
I prefer label B , with either A or D type set.

FWIW....
while I am not a fan of the current bullet point CBCS label, I think not buying a book in the bullet point, as some have stated they won't do, is losing sight of the forest for the trees.





Don't think that label mirrors CGC's labels, as others on this board have posted....it has a light blue background, like the original CBCS (and CGC labels).

Light blue is the standard background color on virtually all printed documentation records that I can think of.

Checkbooks, US social security cards, US autobile title documents and so on.

I think having a white background may obstenibly cheapen the visual appeal of the label.
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I think having a white background may obstenibly cheapen the visual appeal of the label.

+1
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COLLECTOR JWKyle private msg quote post Address this user
I just had a modern submission received. Hoping for the new new label on some keepers. I voted in email but Either one is a improvement.

Just make sure the print on the label is big enough to be read easily enough by someone that has 20/20 vision.
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FWIW....
while I am not a fan of the current bullet point CBCS label, I think not buying a book in the bullet point, as some have stated they won't do, is losing sight of the forest for the trees.


Different people have different sets of preferences. I use my slabbed comics for display, so an ugly label makes a big difference to me.
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FWIW....
while I am not a fan of the current bullet point CBCS label, I think not buying a book in the bullet point, as some have stated they won't do, is losing sight of the forest for the trees.




Different people have different sets of preferences. I use my slabbed comics for display, so an ugly label makes a big difference to me.


Agreed but my point with the forest for the trees remark was that CBCS exists primarily to offer unbiased, third party grading and secure encapsulation of books.

I believe that CBCS was eager to please its' customer base by revamping their labels, as quote a number of collectors had daid the old CBCS label was a bit bland(paraphrased).

They moved on the label change a bit too eagerly, which has resulted in the current situation.

CBCS has listened to their customer base and have intelligently gone about configuring a new label.While it appears to some that CBCS have not made the changes quickly enough, quite the opposite is true.

CBCS has not hastily rolled out a revamped label, they have been taking feedback from their customers as to the appearance and overall design of their label.

I believe that CBCS should be commended, and supported by collectors and dealers alike, for the professional manner in which they are dealing with this issue.

To those who have stated they will not buy a book in the bullet point CBCS label flat out, or unless a huge discount is offered....that is what I am driving at.

For all of the good that CBCS has brought to the market, I believe it is poor form to show such a lack of support and appreciation.Keep in mind that CBCS has listened to their customer base and reacted favorably to their customers, in a manner that is beyond reproach.

Had CBCS simply ignored the outcry against the bullet point label, my thoughts would be less than positive.

As CBCS is helmed by well respected, veterans of the field, they have reacted in the favorable and thoughtful manner in which one would expect them to.

If not for CBCS, CGC would retain a monopoly on the market for graded books, the innovation that CBCS has brought to the market should be supported at all times, even when...and especially when.....a mistake in product design is made.

Again, CBCS has rectified the lapse in judgement they made when the bulletpoint labels were introduced.This should be supported, if you value the unique role that CBCS plays in the market.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I don't mean this to come off as snobbery, but I don't need CBCS, or the cgc for that matter, to grade for me. I can grade.

I have books encapsulated for the label notes and for the aesthetic value. I like of the idea of having them in a hard plastic case. To me, and I realize this doesn't apply to everyone, the label is everything. If it's not something I want to look at, then why purchase it? I'm better off leaving the books in a Mylar and backing board.

The new label, and the current teasers of the new design, are not something that I want to look at day in and day out. In fact, the label is what has kept me from showing any interest in the GSX #1 red label signed by Dave Cockrum. Beautiful book. Horrible label.
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The new label, and the current teasers of the new design, are not something that I want to look at day in and day out


I agree with the above statement wholeheartedly. The original label was a fantastic design, in my opinion. My only critique was to add silver foil to the shield of the original logo. The new logo is a turd, and I don't like the "new new" logo either. I understand that CBCS wants to include their initials in the new logo, but it says CBCS in big bold letters on the label. I guess I'm beating a dead horse.

Did you like the original label, Dr. Watson? If so, did you have any suggestions for tweaks to the original?
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COLLECTOR Foghorn_Sam private msg quote post Address this user
I do appreciate them trying to include their customer base before the rollout of a new label design. When it's all said and done, I hope we end up with a label that allows the comic book itself to be the focus while providing in a non-obtrusive way the information that's the purpose of it being graded and slabbed in the first place.
It's obviously very hard to reach that balance given all the different opinions that have been expressed over the last several months, but I just want a label that's not too flashy, but still has some style and appeal that compliments and not detract from the comic book held within.
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Collector reggieb private msg quote post Address this user
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I don't mean this to come off as snobbery, but I don't need CBCS, or the cgc for that matter, to grade for me. I can grade.

I have books encapsulated for the label notes and for the aesthetic value. I like of the idea of having them in a hard plastic case. To me, and I realize this doesn't apply to everyone, the label is everything. If it's not something I want to look at, then why purchase it? I'm better off leaving the books in a Mylar and backing board.

The new label, and the current teasers of the new design, are not something that I want to look at day in and day out. In fact, the label is what has kept me from showing any interest in the GSX #1 red label signed by Dave Cockrum. Beautiful book. Horrible label.


I am OK with the new label (though I feel that CGC has a much nicer one, I am pretty turned off by the other aspects of CGC) I am thinking about just slabbing them myself, and using the label that Thanos designed and posted on here a while ago. Just PS away the bright Marvel Red (I'll be slabbing mainly DC anyway) that is a really sharp label in my opinion.

I, however, do value the grade as well (and am no expert in that) so books where I want a grade, I'll still be happy with this new label. Better than the rivet label at least.
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
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Did you like the original label, Dr. Watson? If so, did you have any suggestions for tweaks to the original?

The original label was fine. I have never seen a company that needs to get out of their own way more than CBCS. Well, the cgc of course, but they're a lost cause.
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The new label, and the current teasers of the new design, are not something that I want to look at day in and day out


I agree with the above statement wholeheartedly. The original label was a fantastic design, in my opinion. My only critique was to add silver foil to the shield of the original logo. The new logo is a turd, and I don't like the "new new" logo either. I understand that CBCS wants to include their initials in the new logo, but it says CBCS in big bold letters on the label. I guess I'm beating a dead horse.

Did you like the original label, Dr. Watson? If so, did you have any suggestions for tweaks to the original?


Actually as a designer by day, the adding the CBCS o the logo isn't just for the label. you have to realize as a logo you should always have the business name in some fashion incorporated into the design. Not necessarily in the actual artwork but even outside but still part of the design is always a must. thinking about any sort of branding outside of the actual labels that may require that the name be shown.
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@Sirtoddington The name is shown in the original logo, but I think it must've been too small for CBCS' liking:


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@Sirtoddington The name is shown in the original logo, but I think it must've been too small for CBCS' liking:




I know it was. but the new logo doesn't have all the text that the old one had so they went in a direction where it was incorporated more but using just the abbreviation & larger.
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@Sirtoddington The name is shown in the original logo, but I think it must've been too small for CBCS' liking:




I know it was. but the new logo doesn't have all the text that the old one had so they went in a direction where it was incorporated more but using just the abbreviation & larger.


Correct. I understand what you're saying. Nonetheless, I prefer the old logo. I know I posted this before, but you don't see any letters, or words for that matter, in the Nike logo, and it's iconic. I think CBCS' original logo had that kind of style and class. Over time, collectors would know a comic was graded by CBCS just by glancing at that beautiful logo. I suppose the same can be said for the new logo, I just don't like the look of it.
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Again, CBCS has rectified the lapse in judgement they made when the bulletpoint labels were introduced. This should be supported, if you value the unique role that CBCS plays in the market.


Bro, nothing has been rectified yet. We are only now seeing the latest proofs of the possible new, corrected label. I will re-support CBCS big-time with plenty of submissions as soon as the new label is announced.
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Label A or B is a massive improvement. If I had to pick go with Label B.

Glad you guys finally got it worked out.
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Collector Kinsella5 private msg quote post Address this user
Seems the majority like Label "B" with Font "D" I will admit that looks quite nice to me, would love to see what that label would look like combined though. I just am not a fan of a lot of empty space and font that is too small, i.e. the current label. This is an improvement and appreciate CBCS giving some customer input.
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Seems the majority like Label "B" with Font "D" I will admit that looks quite nice to me, would love to see what that label would look like combined though. I just am not a fan of a lot of empty space and font that is too small, i.e. the current label. This is an improvement and appreciate CBCS giving some customer input.


Wasn't my vote, and I followed the directions. Let's go silent majority!

But seriously, I'd be OK with B-D
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