Media mail14891
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| If people knowingly and willingly commit fraud, thats on them. I just refuse the items that do arrive with all that postage due, and let the shoe fall where it may..... It is rather simple...its illegal. Period. The postal service has laws...they were made to help preserve the postal service as viable for all to use. If you choose to break the law, and violate the postal regulations to skim extra profit into your own pocket, thats all you. I just refuse to accept it when it comes to my front door , demanding the extra postage that should have been lawfully paid. We each have to live with our own choices and I am good with that...but the point is, i refuse to live with letting your choices determine mine. Pretty simple concept. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte And just what do the written rules say? Have you or anyone here googled the POSTAL POLICIES on sending packages? I think not. I don't work there but trust that the employee behind the counter with years of experience knows what he/she is doing. |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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| Since we are debating minor infractions, I wonder if everyone who opposes the use of Media Mail on moral grounds can say that they've been completely honest in their declared values when submitting books to CGC/CBCS? Anyone bought a book here on the forum and not paid a required use tax in their state? Anyone bought a book at a convention and managed to avoid paying that states sales tax? Has everyone been completely honest in reporting their capital gains from selling comic books? Anyone ever downloaded someone else's Intellectual Property without paying the normal fee (Donny Cates would like to know)? | ||
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Rafel private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Great questions. |
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 It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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chester15 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Rafel And back to the beginning we go! On the first page of this thread, ironically in the post just before yours, is a screenshot of the policy by @Studley_Dudley. Check the yellow highlighted text about comics not being eligible for Media Mail. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia @EbayMafia Library Mail still exists it’s a few cents cheaper per pound than Media Mail. |
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 The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Rafel Please see above post by @chester15 |
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @EbayMafia I'm no Saint. Although I try and follow the rules in life, I fail everyday. For example I speed. Victimless crime, maybe... however, I do it and I don't think I can ever truly stop. Like I said before, as long as a person can live with the consequences who cares what others think. My questions are more to see into what makes a person tick than to judge right or wrong. I have no dog in this fight. I could care less how they do business. If they sold something I wanted on ebay, I would prolly still buy from them knowing they are technically breaking the law. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia i have always declared the complete value of my books to cbcs/cgc never bought a book of the forums but i would have no problems paying my states sales tax never avoid paying sales taxes on convention books i report my gains from selling comics the only digital property i have ever downloaded i messaged the artist and they were cool with me using their work for anything i created and wanted pictures of the finished product So not sure what yu are trying to get at with these questions. some people are just honest |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte I'm pretty over this thread, but this turn of phrase almost made it worthwhile. |
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Rafel private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Bronte Thank you I will. And like you, I too am over this thread. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafiaYou dont really seem to be getting that when people use media mail it OFTEN gets inspected, opened, damaged, and then delivered with POSTAGE DUE..yes, the new owner of that item cannot take posession until THEY pay the price for the seller being a deadbeat and cheating. My postal delivery man wakes me up when this happens, then demands cash payment for the difference and oh by the way guess what? Postal carriers do not carry change, so you best have the correct amount or be willing to overpay as well. At that point your merchandise, which you already in good faith paid shipping for, finally becomes yours. Even worse, many sellers do charge priority or first class shipping, then utilize media mail to send things. And the crowning fun to this is when a seller then throws an attitude, refuses to refund your additional cost, and to avoid that incoming feedback, they BLOCK you so that you are left with no means to communicate, no method to recoup, nor to respond. I could care less if you justify committing fraud when you send things..that is all about how you choose to do business, but No, I am not here to underwrite the check to help resolve your moral bankrupty, when the difference becomes due and I get stuck paying it. |
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 To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die.
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@Darkseid_of_town Maybe your postal delivery man used to be a newspaper delivery boy |
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| I wonder if these two things could get consensus from both sides: 1) Anyone ships anything by Media Mail should clearly disclose that in their offering since it is not the typical way of shipping. 2) Anyone who buys something that is clearly listed as Media Mail should expect it to be shipped that way. If you are opposed to shipping by Media Mail, then do not purchase unless you've made previous arrangements with the seller. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Now you're being realistic, rational and logical. Stop it! LOL j/k |
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia For the first part, in practicality, this would be true-ish. People are going to ship comics by Media because their competition is doing that. In order to compete on low value comics, or comic lots, the higher priced mailing requirements would eliminate the possibility of making a sale. People are "asking" for an assist from the USPS by hoping they don't get caught. Like cutting through someone's yard as a shortcut until they build a fence to stop you. It's not right, it's not legal, but "everyone's doing it". And most buyers are their accomplices, if they were happy that Media was offered. Media can present problems for the recipient, but the seller either washes his hands of it, or tries to appease those affected as a cost of doing business. They are rolling the dice and usually successfully, as far as they are concerned. As long as the general savings covers the money spent on the disasters, the seller will stick with the process. It's saving him money, or helping him sell stuff. That is why it would be good if it was gone completely, no temptation, no avenue for subversion. And at the bottom of the barrel are the sellers who advertise Expedited and send as Media to skim a few bucks. No use at all for those people. It is also fair to mention that usually Media Mail just trundles along fine, as far as shipping and handling are concerned. If you package it correctly, there should be no increased instances of damage as compared to any other service. It does move a bit slower, the last ones on the truck, if there is room. There are 3 downsides to Media: It can be inspected (possibly damaged or poorly re-packed) It can be abused by the shipper, sending non-eligible products It takes longer to get there HAZARD ZONE - Enter at your own risk. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia I've come to accept that it is a part of doing business with strangers. Depending on what it is determines if I make arrangements for a more reliable method. Even then there is no guarantee that someone follows through with shipping it any way than shit, er media rate. |
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I love media mail so much. No movement since 12JUN. It really is the best for buyers and sellers. | ||
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| Just the other day I noticed on 2 different comic book websites that media mail was actually 1 of there options to have your stuff shipped out. But I've had people ship stuff with a few of the other options other than media mail and still have issues like comics not being packaged correctly. I've had a couple that were shipped to me media mail that were packaged better than priority mail so as some will say not to use media mail I also think it's how people package there items. | ||
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| I haven't read this whole thread. Too early and not enough coffee I think. I offer choices when I sell books. Media is one of those choices. So are First Class and Priority depending on the books, number of books, etc... The buyer then makes their choice. And that's how I ship it. No one should use shipping as a profit engine, but the buyer should be fully aware of the choice they are making. |
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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| I have never shipped Media Mail. I worry about EVERY package that I ship out and always ask the recipient to let me know as soon as it arrives (and if it arrived safely). Why take the chance that the package will be opened by the Post Office and that they could possibly damage the contents? Plus, it takes longer for a package to get to its destination, and I figure that means more chances for the package (and contents) to get damaged due to mishandling and/or accidents. I do not gamble when it comes to shipping comics, just to save a few dollars. | ||
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| I agree with you on the safety of the comics. There used to be a person out of Florida that would charge you a bunch for shipping that would ship comics in a yellow envelope and use regular stamps and half the time not enough so I had to pay the extra fees when they showed up. And more than half the time it was just the comics no bags or boards and if there was bags and boards the comics weren't in them. And if you won a auction from him and didn't pay as soon as the auction ended he would Jack up the shipping cost hoping you wouldn't notice before you paid. And a few times he'd split your order up so you never got everything at the same time. He was reported by several people and banned. | ||
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| @Mrbryceman Why would people continue dealing with them after 1st experience? |
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| I agree with almost everything being said. Sellers who use shipping to try to make money, or to try to rip people off, are not people I want to do business with either. I offer media cause buyers want cheaper options. So, they can choose a cheaper option. However, I never offer media for books actually worth any significant money or slabs. Mostly it's for mixed lots or runs of 5+ books or more. |
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| I had placed 3 orders with the person in a 1 week period so at first I didn't know I was going to get screwed over the way I did. Also this was last year when I got back into collecting comics again after a 10 year period. Wasn't happy about it but definitely learned from it. Before that I had never ordered comics from auctions I only bought from lcs or actual online stores. | ||
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Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user | |
| Right now, it's a 3-way race between two packages from the UK and this one. In any case, my anticipation level is high for all three to get here. The longer the wait, the sweeter the reward right? | ||
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part...
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| @Studley_Dudley The longer the wait, the bigger the ulcer.... |
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| I'm waiting on 5 big orders that supposedly are out for delivery today. I told my wife that I think there small orders lol I hope she doesn't see the invoices lol. My 19 year wedding anniversary is tomorrow and hopefully not my last lol | ||
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The day I bought my Strange Tales #110 I was 65% sure I was going to be going through divorce proceedings soon thereafter  Quote: Originally Posted by Mrbryceman |
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 Please continue to ignore anything I post.
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| If you just bought $1 comics then gamble in media mail, If you bought comics worth $30- $100 plus each, why in the world would you pay that money on comics then skimp on the shipping costs. If a seller is charging shipping then ships cheaper by using media mail That's one seller to avoid. |
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