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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.


You have been extremely lucky. Media mail services suck in comparison to the other usps offered services. I've had to many bad experiences with it. As another poster said it's not worth saving 3 dollars on
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If I could, I would. I swear. DrWatson private msg quote post Address this user
I don't like when sellers charge for priority and send first class or especially media mail. I mean really, don't piss on me and then try to tell me it's rain.
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I don't like when sellers charge for priority and send first class or especially media mail. I mean really, don't piss on me and then try to tell me it's rain.


So many of these cheap ass ebay dealers do that. I absolutely hate buying on ebay and always look to buy on the boards rather it be cgc or cbcs.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.


Note to self: Don't buy any comics from @Rafel
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
lol...lots of Media Mail haters

On less expensive books I always give buyers the option on which shipping service to use. They make the choice...not me and I would say that 99% of the time they choose Media Mail shipping.
It's not because I'm cheap, I don't make any money off of shipping, and definitely not because I am lazy. It's in the listing clear as day and nobody has to use it yet pretty much everyone does.
Why?? Because it saves the buyer money.

I'm sure there are sellers who charge for other services and ship media mail to make an extra few bucks and / or just plain package shipments lousy but to generalize and say that just because someone uses Media Mail they are cheap, lazy, and an idiot is ridiculous....my opinion on that.
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Looking for love in all the wrong places. robo private msg quote post Address this user
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lol...lots of Media Mail haters

On less expensive books I always give buyers the option on which shipping service to use. They make the choice...not me and I would say that 99% of the time they choose Media Mail shipping.
It's not because I'm cheap, I don't make any money off of shipping, and definitely not because I am lazy. It's in the listing clear as day and nobody has to use it yet pretty much everyone does.
Why?? Because it saves the buyer money.

I'm sure there are sellers who charge for other services and ship media mail to make an extra few bucks and / or just plain package shipments lousy but to generalize and say that just because someone uses Media Mail they are cheap, lazy, and an idiot is ridiculous....my opinion on that.
Media mail is what it is - an inexpensive way to mail select printed 'books.' If you are mailing comic books with any ad you are not supposed to use media mail - are you saying that's incorrect? I don't get it.
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To answer your question, no, this is not where the comics go to die. MutantMania private msg quote post Address this user
Nope not saying that at all....


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lol...lots of Media Mail haters

On less expensive books I always give buyers the option on which shipping service to use. They make the choice...not me and I would say that 99% of the time they choose Media Mail shipping.
It's not because I'm cheap, I don't make any money off of shipping, and definitely not because I am lazy. It's in the listing clear as day and nobody has to use it yet pretty much everyone does.
Why?? Because it saves the buyer money.

I'm sure there are sellers who charge for other services and ship media mail to make an extra few bucks and / or just plain package shipments lousy but to generalize and say that just because someone uses Media Mail they are cheap, lazy, and an idiot is ridiculous....my opinion on that.
Media mail is what it is - an inexpensive way to mail select printed 'books.' If you are mailing comic books with any ad you are not supposed to use media mail - are you saying that's incorrect? I don't get it.
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020. HulkSmash private msg quote post Address this user
If comics are not supposed to be shipped via Media Mail; why is Media and option for comic book listings on eBay?
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Looking for love in all the wrong places. robo private msg quote post Address this user
Granted I haven't recently looked at ebay or the mail's rules on media mail. At the counter my post person asked questions and told me the why - comics have advertisements and were not a canidate for media mail. But if everybody's doing it - I have no issue with it and have used it for children's books - but it did seemed sooo slow.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
They prolly just didn't know all the details of the rules and they need to cater to the masses. They can't point out exceptions for every little thing.

For example, they allow you to mail gas cans, but if you fill it with gas before selling ebay has no idea what you are doing and will allow it. Although in postal regulations it's clearly forbidden.
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Whenever you have a monkey riding a horse, I'm in. Tom74152 private msg quote post Address this user
Around Christmas a lady behind the counter asked what I was sending media mail. When she found out it was comic books she became irate and brought out a regulation book where she had highlighted “ any publication with ads, even if the ads are no longer valid, is not eligible for media mail, such as comic books,” she was not a nice lady.
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Why just the women? I like bears. Gaard private msg quote post Address this user
Rules are rules, but 'no ads' is a pretty stupid rule,imo. Who cares if it has ads? What difference does it make?

I don't use MM because I'm not supposed to. But the 'no ads' rule makes about as much sense as "You can't use MM because you live on the left side of the street."
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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Rules are rules, but 'no ads' is a pretty stupid rule,imo. Who cares if it has ads? What difference does it make?

I don't use MM because I'm not supposed to. But the 'no ads' rule makes about as much sense as "You can't use MM because you live on the left side of the street."


Media Mail was created to be a low cost way to distribute literature that was educational or contributed to the culture. To get info and knowledge to the masses. The post office loses money on it, but Congress determined it was in the country's interest to have such a service, so they are stuck with it.

The "ad" factor is because comic books and magazines were considered delivery agents for advertising, not supported by their own content. The advertising subsidized the comic. Without the paid ads, there would be no comics, is the theory and the test. So comics, magazines, periodicals, or any types of ad-bearing literature were ruled out for Media Mail, as not vital cultural or educational material.
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Looking for love in all the wrong places. robo private msg quote post Address this user
Her name is Karen.
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Around Christmas a lady behind the counter asked what I was sending media mail. When she found out it was comic books she became irate and brought out a regulation book where she had highlighted “ any publication with ads, even if the ads are no longer valid, is not eligible for media mail, such as comic books,” she was not a nice lady.


I've found out (the hard way) different rules at different locations. The only constant is the price of a stamp.
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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.


Note to self: Don't buy any comics from @Rafel


Gee, Thanks! If I send you anything you can pick how you want it sent and pay for it. No problem here.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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If comics are not supposed to be shipped via Media Mail; why is Media and option for comic book listings on eBay?


Let's face it - eBay doesn't know anything about how to sell, how to ship, what the regs are, or any part of running a business. They just like to take your money.

I think they just offer all shipping options available from USPS, UPS, and FedEx regardless of what is being listed. Then they let you sort it out, because they sure can't.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.


Note to self: Don't buy any comics from @Rafel


Gee, thanks. If I ever send you anything you can pick how you want it sent and pay for it. No problems here.


My apologies. I am sure you would ship any way requested. My comment was out of line and unnecessary.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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lol...lots of Media Mail haters

On less expensive books I always give buyers the option on which shipping service to use. They make the choice...not me and I would say that 99% of the time they choose Media Mail shipping.
It's not because I'm cheap, I don't make any money off of shipping, and definitely not because I am lazy. It's in the listing clear as day and nobody has to use it yet pretty much everyone does.
Why?? Because it saves the buyer money.

I'm sure there are sellers who charge for other services and ship media mail to make an extra few bucks and / or just plain package shipments lousy but to generalize and say that just because someone uses Media Mail they are cheap, lazy, and an idiot is ridiculous....my opinion on that.



I use media mail and couldn’t have said it much better.
I offer media mail or priority mail. Last year I had over 200 sales and only 3 people opted to pay for the higher cost priority mail. Never had a problem with any package.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
What are the potential consequences of sending by Media Mail? Is it only that there may be postage due when it's received? That's not much of a deterrent. And if that's the only consequence, then rational people are almost being compelled to use media mail. If the consequences of robbing a bank were simply that you may have to give the money back...we should all become bank robbers.
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
Yes. If you get caught it is just paying postage. However, negative feedback sucks. I haven't had any yet, but when I see it on potential sellers, I have to weigh how bad I want the item whereas 100% positive I just buy without hesitation....
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
@EbayMafia in my case, it was returned to me and then I had to pay full proper price to send it back out.
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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.


Note to self: Don't buy any comics from @Rafel


Gee, thanks. If I ever send you anything you can pick how you want it sent and pay for it. No problems here.


My apologies. I am sure you would ship any way requested. My comment was out of line and unnecessary.


No problem. I'm cool with it. Anyway, every post office has different rules for sending the same thing. When I did ebay back in 2004-08, I would take the same package from four different post offices and get four different prices varying from 87¢ to $1.21 (for a small envelope). For the same thing. My post office says comic books are media mail, others may not. All in all, it comes down to how you wrap your comic book(s). I make a box for the comic books, bubble wrap said box, make an outer box then use brown fiber two inch wide mailing tape and off it goes. So it's not who (UPS, FEDEX, or USPS) you send it with but how you send it. We're cool.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
My buddy is the Postmaster in our town. He said each Post Office gets to decide separately a lot of their rules. He has no problem with comics going media, but I only use it if I am selling a stack of cheap books that weigh more than 1 pound. My packing is bomb proof anyway.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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What are the potential consequences of sending by Media Mail? Is it only that there may be postage due when it's received? That's not much of a deterrent. And if that's the only consequence, then rational people are almost being compelled to use media mail. If the consequences of robbing a bank were simply that you may have to give the money back...we should all become bank robbers.


Besides paying the postage cost difference, it is a hassle to have the carrier wait as you check the sofa cushions for cash to pay, exact change please.

Also, the post office has opened the package and resealed it, a sticker on it that says it was inspected. You have to make a choice now - accept the package and pay the upcharge, or just refuse it flat out.

If you accept and open it, even in front of the carrier, if the contents are damaged, you are stuck. You opened it, so you can't now refuse it. Maybe the contents were damaged to begin with, or along the line, or the person "inspecting" did it. You'll have to sort all that out, among 3 parties - you, the seller, and the post office. Is it insured? Who's to blame? Let the finger pointing begin!

Maybe you don't want to get drawn into that black hole, so you just refuse it. Now the seller has damaged stuff coming back, the initial shipping money spent, and probably has to pay the postage due. And you might have gotten a good deal on the purchase, but you had to lose your good deal because you couldn't take the chance of the aforementioned "jackpot" situation occurring.

It's a hot mess.

You even have this problem when the contents are EXACTLY CONFORMING to Media Mail. They can open any Media package. So hardcover books were sent for example, they sliced open the package (and sliced the top book), saw that it's eligible, resealed it, and stickered it. Here's your package - have a nice day!
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.
You also cannot say you have had no complaints or problems...because it is the usually the person being delivered to, who gets disturbed by the postal carrier banging on the door demanding the difference between what you paid and priority rate. Just because noone has complained yet does not mean that it has not happened.
It is a violation of postal regulations .Arguing otherwise is simply attempting to defend being cheap and defrauding the postal service.

Nevermind if the package is opened and in the process the comics are damaged, or worse, the postal service opts to return to sender so they can instead resend the entire mess and pay entirely over again.
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I use MEDIA MAIL. When asked at the post office what I'm mailing I tell them comic books. It first they didn't know if comic books qualified for "Media mail", they asked and agreed comic books do qualify, so I've been sending my comic books to CBCS, buyers, mycomicshop, comiclink and Canada (Secret Santa) for the last ten years or so and I've had no problems or complaints.
You also cannot say you have had no complaints or problems...because it is the usually the person being delivered to, who gets disturbed by the postal carrier banging on the door demanding the difference between what you paid and priority rate. Just because noone has complained yet does not mean that it has not happened.
It is a violation of postal regulations .Arguing otherwise is simply attempting to defend being cheap and defrauding the postal service.

Nevermind if the package is opened and in the process the comics are damaged, or worse, the postal service opts to return to sender so they can instead resend the entire mess and pay entirely over again.


That might be true if the receiver says nothing but everything was good.
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Collector Darkseid_of_town private msg quote post Address this user
And in all likelihood they never buy from you again and vanish...because people arent there to pay your bill when you defraud the system to pocket a few dollars for yourself.
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And in all likelihood they never buy from you again and vanish...because people arent there to pay your bill when you defraud the system to pocket a few dollars for yourself.


If your post office says "This is the cheapest way to send it." Why is that a problem?
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... Bronte private msg quote post Address this user
In my opinion if you didn't know better that might fly. However, now that people have posted explicit proof it's not okay, and you were to do it, I would say it's wrong. But to each their own.
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