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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
Sure did! Hopefully this moves the growing cbcs community forward.
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Collector Dalkiel private msg quote post Address this user
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I don't really have home access to a computer so I am constantly abusing the computer at work and I don't want to get caught lol


@Comicninja0215 - FYI in case you didn't know - I am assuming that your computer at work (as well as other employees) are connected to a server. Keep this in mind,... the server keeps a log file (with your username at work) of everywhere you go on the internet. Whether it's here at CBCS, YT, FB, IG, etc.... the time/date/length of time/web searches/videos you watch/blah blah blah... are recorded in the server's log file with your username.

Obviously I have no idea how lenient your company is about internet play, but if you are going to continue to abuse your computer at work, make sure your production is up to par.

What if I am using my personal Laptop while on my lunch break, using the companies network behind my VPN?
Can they track me then?
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I'll probably wake up constipated. Pre_Coder private msg quote post Address this user
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I don't really have home access to a computer so I am constantly abusing the computer at work and I don't want to get caught lol


@Comicninja0215 - FYI in case you didn't know - I am assuming that your computer at work (as well as other employees) are connected to a server. Keep this in mind,... the server keeps a log file (with your username at work) of everywhere you go on the internet. Whether it's here at CBCS, YT, FB, IG, etc.... the time/date/length of time/web searches/videos you watch/blah blah blah... are recorded in the server's log file with your username.

Obviously I have no idea how lenient your company is about internet play, but if you are going to continue to abuse your computer at work, make sure your production is up to par.

What if I am using my personal Laptop while on my lunch break, using the companies network behind my VPN?
Can they track me then?


Maybe you should present this question to your company's IT dept.

Seriously though, I left IT back in 2005 (after 20 years), and I never looked back. You have no idea how burned out I became, but I did remain semi-literate in the field while working other trades.

Back to your question... when I left IT, VPN had been around probably 5-6 years.
* Then - I would say VPN users were probably safe from being tracked.
* Today - Nothing is sacred on the internet.

Anyway, let's not OT this thread. This thread was created to better our business/personal relationship with CBCS.

If someone wants to create an Off Topic IT thread, I think that would be really cool.
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Collector SidTheSquid private msg quote post Address this user
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4) I think CBCS should consider eliminating the ART label and expanding the slab-only tier. As it is, slab-only seems incredibly similar to the Art Label in that they are both ungraded, however Art labels are included in the population report while slab-only are not. It is also extremely strange that Slab-Only is exclusively for verified signature books. If the Slab-only option could be used for unsigned, witnessed, and verified books then you could simplify things by removing a redundant option.



Totally agree with this. I'd really love a S.O. blue label option for skipping having certain books graded.

Also I agree with whoever said to remove the perforations on the label. Hire someone who's only job is to go over the edges with a paper cutter if you have to =D

And the VSP pricing on the submission portal still needs to be fixed. It jumps up to $45 when you add in the name of the signer you want verified.

Other than those, I'm a happy camper. Love the new slabs, turn around times are reasonable, friendly customer service. And I'm happy to hear mag sizes are on the way.
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Had a quick thought.

I was thinking of maybe adding something on graders notes.

Like indicating a book has been pressed or even adding a recommendation to press a book if it hadn’t been.

I’m just thinking if I bought a slab off someone, pull up the notes and see it’s an 8.5 and has a recommended pressing note, I’ll have an idea I might be able to reholder and, potentially, see a higher grade.

Or per first suggestion, I’ll know the book is probably at max condition that it’s capable of reaching.

Thanks, Steve!
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Beaten by boat oars Studley_Dudley private msg quote post Address this user
Hi Steve. I don't think I have too much to add that hasn't been addressed already, but to reiterate a few things that others have stated may help you adjust your list of topics to address.

1. Customer service needs help. I can handle waiting 24-48 hours for a repsonse, however on a recent submission, I had a question, it was answered and I noted it on the invoice and was still billed incorrectly. It's been corrected since, but communication could flow better between departments.
2. The forum could use a slight upgrade. Not as bulky as the CGC forum, but maybe distinct buying/selling/trading sections along with the general comic discussion and not auto archiving topics after 2-3 months. I know the forum is lower on the list of priorities, but it could be something to look at in the future.
3. As others have brought up, noting newsstands on post-2000 comics that fit the bill.
4. The emails for when orders move into the received/grading/shipping/etc process are sometimes non-existent. Possibly look at making sure those emails are coming out after an order is scanned from one step to the next.
5. More rivets.

Other than that, I really don't have many complaints or gripes. I think CBCS has bounced back well from the headaches caused by the move and other factors. The new cases are great, the labels may not pop for some, but I don't find them gaudy or distracting. I love that the staff interacts on the forum, and while the service department may need some help, they've been super friendly to talk to when I have had to deal with them. If you strive for perfection, you'll shit excellence. I think that's what my old Master Chief used to say.
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Had a quick thought.

I was thinking of maybe adding something on graders notes.

Like indicating a book has been pressed or even adding a recommendation to press a book if it hadn’t been.

I’m just thinking if I bought a slab off someone, pull up the notes and see it’s an 8.5 and has a recommended pressing note, I’ll have an idea I might be able to reholder and, potentially, see a higher grade.

Or per first suggestion, I’ll know the book is probably at max condition that it’s capable of reaching.

Thanks, Steve!


Interesting thought. I feel some detractors would look at that as an attempt to make more money like "Oh this book got a 9.2, but with a press (wink, wink) it could get a 9.6-9.8.". Not saying it is a bad idea, but that one would have to be careful with it.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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Had a quick thought.

I was thinking of maybe adding something on graders notes.

Like indicating a book has been pressed or even adding a recommendation to press a book if it hadn’t been.

I’m just thinking if I bought a slab off someone, pull up the notes and see it’s an 8.5 and has a recommended pressing note, I’ll have an idea I might be able to reholder and, potentially, see a higher grade.

Or per first suggestion, I’ll know the book is probably at max condition that it’s capable of reaching.

Thanks, Steve!


Interesting thought. I feel some detractors would look at that as an attempt to make more money like "Oh this book got a 9.2, but with a press (wink, wink) it could get a 9.6-9.8.". Not saying it is a bad idea, but that one would have to be careful with it.


I agree this is not something I would recommend.

For one...... how are the graders going to know the books have been pressed?

If I have CBCS press my books are they then going to mark them as pressed for the graders to note? I see a huge problem with that

Besides that they already offer a Press screening service which they gain revenue from. I’m not sure how popular that service is, but giving up a pure profit service like press screening just doesn’t make good business sense IMHO
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@Studley_Dudley and @BigRedOne1944

The recommending part could be an issue, but if you do pressing through CBCS, they could note it as pressed.

I’d think that might be helpful if I were to buy a book off, say either of you, for example.

If I pull up the notes, see it’s a 9.2 and has been pressed, well then I know not to expect to gain much on a reholder.

The recommendation part would be nice and you’d never guarantee a grade would go up, but there could be concerns of unnecessary upselling, so I see what you guys are concerned about.

But disclosing an in house press on the graders notes? That just seems like more info to me.
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The Fifth Golden Girl sborock private msg quote post Address this user
@Studley_Dudley Good stuff! Thanks!
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
@Jabberwookie I know you are sincere with your thoughts and recommendations, but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would I ever want CBCS to note to their grading department that books have been pressed or altered in ANY way. That is a MAJOR conflict of interest that could consciously or unconsciously influence graders opinions on the books they are to be unbiased on.

In fact.... if CBCS ever incorporated this practice I would never use their pressing service and possibly even their grading services again.

I apologize if I sound so critical. I just think it’s a bad idea and a huge conflict of interest.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@BigRedOne1944

I guess I don’t understand the reaction to noting the pressing by CBCS at CBCS?

How is it a conflict of interest to note the services you did?

I’m just not seeing it.
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Ok, just gonna pop this in here and watch the S fly. I've said a lot of this before, but no doubt the rage posts and oblivious replies will come fast and furious


1- Witnessed and verified are NOT the same, and should not have the same label. Verified is a second-place option for when witnessed isn't an option, for whatever reason (including death.) Making verified yellow feels like a cheap marketing attempt to equate the two, and a cost-cutting measure to print fewer labels. I think the verified program is great and I would absolutely use it, but if you're going to do it, do it right. Different labels for verified and witnessed, AND a different one for restored.

2- Get rid of those hideous banners on your pages. Why the hell am I seeing banners for online casinos and cryptocurrency scams on your home page? Are you a sketchy-ass site with a list of top 10 celebrity makeup-less photos? Are you a software piracy portal? Or are you attempting to be a legitimate authority in the comic industry for grading? Can you imagine going to the Porsche/ Mercedes/ Audi website and seeing banners like that? The CEO of those companies would have that person killed immediately.

3- Stop outsourcing your CS. Those guys are useless. If I wanted somebody to answer my question by reading something, I'd do it myself.


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Collector mediaslave private msg quote post Address this user
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@Jabberwookie I know you are sincere with your thoughts and recommendations, but under NO CIRCUMSTANCES would I ever want CBCS to note to their grading department that books have been pressed or altered in ANY way. That is a MAJOR conflict of interest that could consciously or unconsciously influence graders opinions on the books they are to be unbiased on.

In fact.... if CBCS ever incorporated this practice I would never use their pressing service and possibly even their grading services again.

I apologize if I sound so critical. I just think it’s a bad idea and a huge conflict of interest.



I agree. Wanting a notation about being pressed is purely for the speculators that want to try for a bump. For me, and this may sound absolutely insane, but it would bug me to no end seeing that note and knowing the book was pressed, even if it's obvious that it has been. I don't want to see the guts behind the curtain, just lemme watch the show.
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1- Witnessed and verified are NOT the same, and should not have the same label. Verified is a second-place option for when witnessed isn't an option, for whatever reason (including death.) Making verified yellow feels like a cheap marketing attempt to equate the two, and a cost-cutting measure to print fewer labels. I think the verified program is great and I would absolutely use it, but if you're going to do it, do it right. Different labels for verified and witnessed, AND a different one for restored.

2- Get rid of those hideous banners on your pages. Why the hell am I seeing banners for online casinos and cryptocurrency scams on your home page? Are you a sketchy-ass site with a list of top 10 celebrity makeup-less photos? Are you a software piracy portal? Or are you attempting to be a legitimate authority in the comic industry for grading? Can you imagine going to the Porsche/ Mercedes/ Audi website and seeing banners like that? The CEO of those companies would have that person killed immediately.


Totally agree with #1. I preferred the pinkish labels, and don't want to send anything in for a reholder, unless it has rivets.

Agree with #2 as well. I haven't seen PGX with banner ads. The other two have them.
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@mediaslave Fair enough, but it’s not my call or yours or anyone else.

It’s Steve’s and he asked for ideas so I provided one.

Personally, when a guy in charge asks for ideas, I let him filter them and don’t feel the need to critique other people’s ideas.

To each their own, though...
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
The continuous change of labels and label colors can be a bad thing. CBCS has already had atleast four label changes. I think the current ones are great but there's a vocal minority. If CBCS decides to change the label one more time, let's make that one stick for a long while.
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I wish I had a title. ComicNinja0215 private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC Agreed! one label to rule them all.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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I guess I don’t understand the reaction to noting the pressing by CBCS at CBCS?

How is it a conflict of interest to note the services you did?

I’m just not seeing it.


1 consciously or unconsciously it taints and influences the graders opinion and ability to be unbiased

2 CBCS already sells for a discount to CGC, having that notation on CBCS books would be the kiss of death, as literally nobody would want to buy it. The same would be true for CGC. It would literally make the books outcasts IMHO
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Collector mediaslave private msg quote post Address this user
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The continuous change of labels and label colors can be a bad thing. CBCS has already had atleast four label changes. I think the current ones are great but there's a vocal minority. If CBCS decides to change the label one more time, let's make that one stick for a long while.


CGC has modified their label a few times, but its usually small tweaks.

PGX has labels...lol.

Then theres EGS, who apparently hired a shitty airbrush tshirt artist off a Florida beach to design theirs.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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The continuous change of labels and label colors can be a bad thing. CBCS has already had atleast four label changes. I think the current ones are great but there's a vocal minority. If CBCS decides to change the label one more time, let's make that one stick for a long while.

PGX has labels...lol.


lol!!!🤣
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1- Witnessed and verified are NOT the same, and should not have the same label. Verified is a second-place option for when witnessed isn't an option, for whatever reason (including death.) Making verified yellow feels like a cheap marketing attempt to equate the two, and a cost-cutting measure to print fewer labels. I think the verified program is great and I would absolutely use it, but if you're going to do it, do it right. Different labels for verified and witnessed, AND a different one for restored.

2- Get rid of those hideous banners on your pages. Why the hell am I seeing banners for online casinos and cryptocurrency scams on your home page? Are you a sketchy-ass site with a list of top 10 celebrity makeup-less photos? Are you a software piracy portal? Or are you attempting to be a legitimate authority in the comic industry for grading? Can you imagine going to the Porsche/ Mercedes/ Audi website and seeing banners like that? The CEO of those companies would have that person killed immediately.


Totally agree with #1. I preferred the pinkish labels, and don't want to send anything in for a reholder, unless it has rivets.

Agree with #2 as well. I haven't seen PGX with banner ads. The other two have them.


That hurts. My DKR1 is a Pink Rivet label. Definitely had to lose the pink but yellow was not, IMO, the right way to go.

And yes, CGC runs banners, but for connected industries. What did they have, comiclink, HA, sites like that? I can't say that I like theirs either, but at least they are relative to the industry. On CBCS I got an add for AliExpress selling a vagina fumigator. Funny as hell, but brutal for CBCS's already struggling brand image.
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@BigRedOne1944

I guess I don’t understand the reaction to noting the pressing by CBCS at CBCS?

How is it a conflict of interest to note the services you did?

I’m just not seeing it.


1 consciously or unconsciously it taints and influences the graders opinion and ability to be unbiased

2 CBCS already sells for a discount to CGC, having that notation on CBCS books would be the kiss of death, as literally nobody would want to buy it. The same would be true for CGC. It would literally make the books outcasts IMHO


Fair enough. I think you’re going to the worst case scenario and seem to be having an emotional reaction to the idea.

I don’t agree, but thanks for explaining.

And, I don’t care if the idea is used or not.

It might not be viable, but maybe it triggers a better idea.

That’s why I throw ideas out. I’d rather look at what can be done rather than focus on what cannot be done.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
A "Pressed" notation would be stigmatizing. Maybe it would be useful to a future buyer down the road. But for me, the paying customer, it would be a negative and I would avoid using the company that notes pressing. I would choose the company that leaves such information between me and my doctor, as they say.
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I'm a #2. BigRedOne1944 private msg quote post Address this user
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@BigRedOne1944

I guess I don’t understand the reaction to noting the pressing by CBCS at CBCS?

How is it a conflict of interest to note the services you did?

I’m just not seeing it.


1 consciously or unconsciously it taints and influences the graders opinion and ability to be unbiased

2 CBCS already sells for a discount to CGC, having that notation on CBCS books would be the kiss of death, as literally nobody would want to buy it. The same would be true for CGC. It would literally make the books outcasts IMHO


Fair enough. I think you’re going to the worst case scenario and seem to be having an emotional reaction to the idea.

I don’t agree, but thanks for explaining.

And, I don’t care if the idea is used or not.

It might not be viable, but maybe it triggers a better idea.

That’s why I throw ideas out. I’d rather look at what can be done rather than focus on what cannot be done.



Yes, discussing new ideas is always a good thing. Getting the pros and cons is the only way improvements can be made.

Before TPGers and big dealers found a way to profit from “Pressing” and thus making it a more widely acceptable practice, It was, and still is considered by many a form of restoration. I can’t help but think noting books as being pressed would have a negative effect on books much the same way having one noted as being restored does. Many might disagree, but it’s also highly unlikely they will be the first in line to have their books singled out on the label as being pressed.

Maybe I’m wrong.....
but I have a hard believing that anybody who is submitting books for pressing and grading wants CBCS to note on the labels that their books were pressed. Anybody?

How about buying a book on the secondary market? How many people pass by the book marked “PRESSED” for one that’s not?
Anybody?
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Pressing is already accepted by the general collecting masses so having a label say Pressed wouldn't be detrimental. That being said, I wouldn't want that notation on the label but it wouldn't bother me in the least if it was with graders notes.

People buy books of all types of grades..high, low, mid. Are you suggesting that books that have already been pressed won't sell?

Collectors already openly state if a books been pressed already or not so I'm at a loss to your argument.
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Pressing is already accepted by the general collecting masses so having a label say Pressed wouldn't be detrimental. That being said, I wouldn't want that notation on the label but it wouldn't bother me in the least if it was with graders notes.

People buy books of all types of grades..high, low, mid. Are you suggesting that books that have already been pressed won't sell?

Collectors already openly state if a books been pressed already or not so I'm at a loss to your argument.


That’s the key. It would be in the graders notes.

The ultimate issue seems to be either fear of not getting the best price, which is understandable, or just aversion to change.

I’d prefer to have more information available as a buyer and seller, but not everyone feels the need to be upfront with information, it seems.

Either way, it was an idea to throw Steve’s way and probably not anything that needs to trigger people into never, ever doing business with CBCS again.

I’m content to let Steve figure out if it’s worthwhile and a little tired of defending it here.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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Pressing is already accepted by the general collecting masses so having a label say Pressed wouldn't be detrimental. That being said, I wouldn't want that notation on the label but it wouldn't bother me in the least if it was with graders notes.

People buy books of all types of grades..high, low, mid. Are you suggesting that books that have already been pressed won't sell?

Collectors already openly state if a books been pressed already or not so I'm at a loss to your argument.


That’s the key. It would be in the graders notes.

The ultimate issue seems to be either fear of not getting the best price, which is understandable, or just aversion to change.

I’d prefer to have more information available as a buyer and seller, but not everyone feels the need to be upfront with information, it seems.

Either way, it was an idea to throw Steve’s way and probably not anything that needs to trigger people into never, ever doing business with CBCS again.

I’m content to let Steve figure out if it’s worthwhile and a little tired of defending it here.


Perfectly acceptable and one might even say its erroneous to not notate in the graders notes that a book has been pressed. It seems counter intuitive to leave that out but maybe there's a logical reason.
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@GAC and there certainly might be.

I’ll trust CBCS to know more about the process and any unintended consequences than me being a forum member would know.

And that goes for any idea.

If the man asks for ideas, I give mine, let others give theirs and go on about my day.

If it’s not a good idea; then it’s not. I’ll sleep fine tonight, either way.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
As far as graders knowing if a book has been pressed: I agree with the general trend of graders being as blind as possible. The whole point of third-party grading is to have a professional's impartial determination, with emphasis on 'impartial'. Even if graders could avoid any subconscious urge to note what a good job their friends in the pressing office did, grading companies should want to avoid even the impression of beneficial treatment like that.

As far as noting it on the slab: one of the reasons that pressing is more accepted than other restoration techniques, from my understanding, is that practically speaking you can't tell if a book has been pressed or not just by looking at it. So it would be pretty tough for CBCS to make any note of any book they didn't press, and they could only note their own if they decided to ignore my first point.
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