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Collector ZosoRocks private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by earthshaker01
Comics are fun


...and this is how they should be always.

But some of us, including myself, will put them also into an "investment category", and I think that is what sometimes hurts the industry.

IMO - a comic book, no matter when it was issued, is sort of like "one Stock certificate".

To compare - and maybe this helps someone with their addiction - think of the number of books produced, and their initial shelf price. If one thinks as each book is one certificate, and it is a good story, then it has the possibility of creating a frenzy of sorts to push the price up. The same with the stock market.
- But like the stock market, not every issue will produce a return. Some fall, some exceed expectations.
- Is this a fair way to approach the secondary market?
+ I think it is, because it leaves the variables in place, but it also, like the other poster commented upon - it is still fun. Fun with trying to get a good book at a good price, keeping it for a time of investment and then pass it on, hopefully making another person happy as you have been.

If one thinks like this, you can't go wrong, but it does require the participant to actually think of what is happening with the market, the books, and gets him much more involved in the hobby life, instead of thinking they have to have anything and everything, just because it was issued.

Cheers!
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
For me first is the quest and then the money. It's always nice to know if you are going to break even or make a profit. We can all agree to that. However for me my quest is to fund a 70 year old book in 9.0 or above and trying to understand the wildness of how it survived in great shape.
Example: I just got this back in house 30 minutes ago. Thanks Fedex guy. Highest graded by far. The most racist comic likely produced. Sorry for glare took with phone. Quest complete...next

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Collector ZosoRocks private msg quote post Address this user
Where in the world did you find that? Hidden in a wall? Attic?

Cool find no matter.

Thanks for sharing.
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Collector infinityG private msg quote post Address this user
wow... "inspirational"... lol

thats the first time Ive ever seen a comic of such "content".

nonetheless, an historical footnote.
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Collector Darkga private msg quote post Address this user
@earthshaker01 Wow! Yeah some comics were "interesting" back then. One of the themes I collect is "Important Comics in African-American History." Here are a few from my collection:

Jungle Tales #1 (1954) - 1st non-stereotypical African recurring lead character in a comic



Lobo #1 (1965) - 1st African-American lead titled comic



Martin Luther King y La Historia De Montgomery (1959) - Spanish version of a scarce MLK comic; supposedly only single digits exist

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Collector QuaBrot private msg quote post Address this user
Darkga - those are awesome! Its great when people realize not only that comic books were (and are) more than just superhero stories (not that there's anything wrong with that), but that they are great examples of American social history, sometimes the good and enlightened aspects of it, but unfortunately mostly the boorish and sad parts of it.

Not sure if a character in an EC comic (non-recurring, single story appearance) would qualify, but Weird Fantasy 18 (March 1953) has one of the most powerful anti-racism stories I've read (in Science-Fiction at least), but you'd have to read it to see if its what you collect. That was pre- Jungle Tales.
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Collector Darkga private msg quote post Address this user
@QuaBrot Thanks!

Yeah I have read "Judgement Day" from that issue since it was printed again in Incredible Science Fiction #33 (which I own). It's a great read even today.





For that Jungle Tale #1 I should have said recurring African lead character (Waku).
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
@Darkga very cool. I have several file copies.of that Lobo. Really cool book. Going to run them through the press for good measure at some point this and send a couple in. Great books.
The Sugarfoot Jones paper is so cheap, like pressed pulp in quality. Nothing like a regular cover by feel. Surprising it survived like this with no tears in edges.
Pressing it was difficult as the inner comic is 3/8 inch smaller than cover. I had to build up inner edges prior to pressing it so the cover would not have bend marks all the way around it. Had to clean carefully as it would have been easy to tear or rub material away.
Hell I was hoping for an 8.5 or 9.0. Guess my pressing cleaning skills are getting better. Lol
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
I don't think African-American would be correct here. But the first African hero in comic books was Red Mask in December of 1939.

Interesting thing about this, is that in issue #2 his skin color was changed to white. And it varied from light skinned to medium skinned in subsequent issues.

It only ran for four issues.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/best-comics-2-featuring-adventures-of-the-red-mask/4000-137161/
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Collector The_Curmudgeon private msg quote post Address this user
The label just says "African-American."
It does not give anything beyond that.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
On my link above, to the page about Best Comics from 1939. If you click on the picture of issue #1. It will come up with the info that Red Mask was the first African-American hero.

I have issue #1, and it indeed shows an African-American hero in 1939.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/best-comics-1-featuring-adventures-of-the-red-mask/4000-137160/
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Collector Darkga private msg quote post Address this user
@conditionfreak You should send that Red Mask #1 in to get graded so they can add that officially to the notes.
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Collector The_Curmudgeon private msg quote post Address this user
The label says "1st African-American to headline own title."
Red Mask is 1st AA hero, but not titled.
It's too bad they gave his clothes to a white guy on the rest of the issues.
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Collector Darkga private msg quote post Address this user
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The label says "1st African-American to headline own title."
Red Mask is 1st AA hero, but not titled.
It's too bad they gave his clothes to a white guy on the rest of the issues.


Actually is the Red Mask African or African-American? Lobo is definitely AA since he was a former Union soldier.

It's like the difference between Black Panther (1st African Marvel superhero) and Falcon (1st Marvel AA superhero).
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I bought a meat grinder on amazon for $60 and it's changed my life. kaptainmyke private msg quote post Address this user
Fred Williamson and Pam Grier are my 2 favorite "Blaxploitation" actors from the 60s-70s.

You guys really should look up "BOSS N#####" sometimes simply referred to as "BOSS" (for obvious reasons) and stars Durville Martin and Fred Williamson as a freeman who is a first ever black sheriff as he reluctantly takes over the town. They made 3 movies it was so popular. VERY out of print and VERY hard to find. I spent years chasing those films down.
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COLLECTOR conditionfreak private msg quote post Address this user
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@conditionfreak You should send that Red Mask #1 in to get graded so they can add that officially to the notes.


Yes I should. Just takes time and money, and I haven't got around to it yet.

It is currently in a PGX holder, and it says nothing on their notes except "First appearance of Red Mask".

Funny thing about that PGX "slab". It is not a hard slab. It is in a sealed flexible piece of plastic. Much like you would get your drivers license in. I would post a pic of it, but that would violate the rules here.

I never read the story, but assumed it took place in Africa. Because of the scene on the cover. So I don't buy the term African-American in conjunction with this character.

But that term has always perplexed me anyway.
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