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Collector 99issues private msg quote post Address this user
Xmen 0.5 cgc blue label notes consist of
- stan lee written on cover
- spine split
- cover detached from book


I prefer CBCS but should i resubmit out of fear of the cover issues?

I was hoping that the book would come back higher if verified by CBCS but the spine split scares me. Ive seen 2.5s with cover completely detached.

Any input is helpful. Thank you.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
what X-men book is this?

You got pictures?
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COLLECTOR dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user
What issue of X-Men? Definitely provide pictures if available?

Also, depending on the rest of the book’s condition, the benefit to the grade of having the writing on the cover verified may be minimal if any. Definitely check out CBCS’ Grading Scale

There is certainly value in having a verified Stan Lee signature, but verification is not guaranteed, especially with Stan Lee signatures, which are hit and miss as far as verification goes
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
What issue is it? Please provide some photos, the cgc grade alone isn't enough to give an opinion...looks like I posted without refreshing first.
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Collector cesidio private msg quote post Address this user
I'm going to say no. Stan Lee writing aside detached cover spline split. Also guessing folds bends tears amature restoration ect. Can't buy a higher grade. Is what it is.
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Collector 99issues private msg quote post Address this user




Im at work and these are the only two pics i have on my phone. Can do more later.

Thanks guys for all the help
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I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie. flanders private msg quote post Address this user
I believe you can send a photo to Beckett directly and they will let you know if the signature is likely to pass verification. That way you have more info to decide if you want to have it regraded and verified.

Here's the site. Well worth the $10 imo:

https://www.beckett-authentication.com/services/signature-review
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
It looks like the back cover is missing, so I don’t see how it could get a higher grade.
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It was a one trick pony show but always hilarious. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
If that was my book I would re-grade specifically for the signature. I wouldn't care about the grade. It's already a .5 so it can't go much lower. If I felt the signature would pass VSP I'd definitely re-grade.

I'd send it to CBCS in the CGC case.

The signature looks good to me but ofcourse I'm not a professional.
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
Edit - the ebay seller posted the wrong picture. There is only one back cover, the Christmas card one.

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Originally Posted by esaravo
It looks like the back cover is missing, so I don’t see how it could get a higher grade.


I was wondering about this. There are at least two different back covers for X-men #1. Here are samples from ebay. The first is from a 6.5, the second from a 7.5. I tried searching this and didn't come up with anything. Does anyone know more about this? Or have a link?








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Collector jokioo private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by esaravo
It looks like the back cover is missing, so I don’t see how it could get a higher grade.


Can't believe they forgot to note that on the label. For such a monster book too...

If it were me, I would reslab for signature verification. Probably worth it for that alone.
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Collector lawguy1977 private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC Totally agree. The VSP adds value. Personally, the signature looks authentic to me, especially when I compare it to an authentic signature I had awhile back before selling. Of course, I'm not a professional either, but it looks legit to me.


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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
I agree with others that the signature can't be affecting the grade if it's already that low, so I don't see how you get a bump. But a verified Stan sig would be nicer than a "name written in maker" sig.
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I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans. esaravo private msg quote post Address this user
@Jesse_O - The 6.5 copy has the correct back cover. I sent a PM to the eBay seller with the other copy asking him if he is displaying the correct back cover for his X-Men #1.
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Collector doog private msg quote post Address this user
I would verify right away, makes the book more unique. And a value jump.
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by esaravo
@Jesse_O - The 6.5 copy has the correct back cover. I sent a PM to the eBay seller with the other copy asking him if he is displaying the correct back cover for his X-Men #1.


That would explain it. I thought it was weird, but they were actually both in the first 5 or so comics that I looked at. I even checked Grand Comics and found nothing about different back covers.
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Secret Moderator MatterEaterLad private msg quote post Address this user
Would buying a contemporaneous silver age book with the same back cover and marrying the covers be an option? It would be a restored book at that point, but would present better. Not sure you'd get the grade up to a 1.0, but perhaps it's something to consider. I know that's been done to some golden age keys in the past.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse_O
I was wondering about this. There are at least two different back covers for X-men #1.


Are you kidding me? I had no idea there were two different back covers. And Captain America 100 has two different colors in the title. It's like these freak mutie variants have been living among us all this time and we're just now starting to recognize them. We need to start a registration process.
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Moderator Jesse_O private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by EbayMafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jesse_O
I was wondering about this. There are at least two different back covers for X-men #1.


Are you kidding me? I had no idea there were two different back covers. And Captain America 100 has two different colors in the title. It's like these freak mutie variants have been living among us all this time and we're just now starting to recognize them. We need to start a registration process.


No. I was wrong. There is only one. @esaravo figured that the second one just posted the wrong picture on eBay. I'll edit my post.
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Collector KYDU private msg quote post Address this user
@MatterEaterLad

Well if you start adding paper to marry the back cover at that point you may as well restore the whole thing. The front cover is pretty solid and the book looks good from the back as well.
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Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Is anyone else bothered that the CGC label does not note the book as Incomplete or note that the back cover is missing? I find the whole thing suspect. I would definitely do the $10 pre-verification from Beckett. Wouldn't be surprised if someone has tried to verify this signature before. If it passes, I would send it to CBCS for full verification...but it will still be a 0.5 grade.
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. xkonk private msg quote post Address this user
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Originally Posted by EbayMafia
Is anyone else bothered that the CGC label does not note the book as Incomplete or note that the back cover is missing


I think a .5 grade demands that something is missing. I could be wrong.
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