Ebay Payment Dispute14485
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Quote:Originally Posted by teacha777 not to make a big thing here, but is eBay name would be nice so that we all don't need to deal with him. i also think eBay will side with you. |
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 Captain Accident
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| The forum is and will always be the best place to sell. Ebay has gone to the dogs. | ||
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| The fact he gave a different reason in the credit card dispute might help your case. But, I’d be inclined to simply accept the return & block the guy. That said, this would set a bad Precedent, if e-bay REQUIRED interior pics of graded books? I sold a rather hard-to-find SNES game awhile back. The buyer messaged me that they wanted to return it because it was a birthday gift for her son & he didn’t like the game. I was rather shocked, how is her kid’s taste my responsibility? But I accepted the return, explaining that I “don’t normally do this”. Fortunately, it sold rather quickly once I relisted it. |
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| @drchaos Once again, buyer did not provide a valid reason for return and you will not have to refund. |
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| I mean, what is the seller’s responsibility? Describe the item & its condition accurately, then deliver said item in stated condition. The series & issue # are in the title, in the description, & pictured on the label. The condition is also listed in all three places. AND third party certified, therefore, not up for debate. He stated it got there safely. Your obligation was fulfilled. The Buyer is responsible to read the description, confirm it is what he wants based on the description given & pay. I could see someone messaging & saying “oh man, I totally forgot I already had a copy of this! LOL, my bad.” For the Buyer not take ANY personal responsibility in this instance is just silly. The “he didn’t post pics of the interior” is a desperate, secondary ploy. He has a trade of this series & didn’t realize this issue was in there? Huh? Isn’t that a plus? Now he has one to read & one slabbed. My guess? The guy is on a tight budget & probably shouldn’t be buying collectibles. |
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| I sold 1/2 of my collection on Ebay years ago had 1 customer filed a complaint with Ebay about my bad services This person won the auction on a EC comic refused to pay then filed a complaint about bad service Really WTF I never sold on Ebay after that at this stage in my life I don't need to deal with Idiots any more | ||
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 How do I know this? Because I've done it myself.
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| After reading all of the posts, I feel extremely lucky with the buyers I've encountered in the little bit of sales I do on eBay. I can't believe some of the insane, stupid people out there. Actually, considering my line of work, I totally believe it, but I just don't want to. Common sense really isn't that common. I hope eBay does the right thing @drchaos and sides with you. |
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 Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock
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| I don't like the fact that the guy was so aggressive on the charge back explanation. He is definitely self-advocating in an over-the-top way. But there is another way to look at this situation. The buyer seems desperate to get back $73, a pitiful sum to go to this much trouble over. He must be in dire straits to need to do this. And he doesn't sound very emotionally mature either. Can you imagine the situation you have to be in where you are stressing about $73? Sounds like he made an impulse buy that was a mistake. And he is flailing around with the excuses and rationalizations, trying to reconcile his actions to his sense of self-worth. It's not worth the headache, or the ill-feelings, I think. Maybe just let the poor sod off the hook? Have him pay for shipping but accept the return and forget about it. I wouldn't even block him ... he'll be so surprised at how polite, etc., you were, he'll have nothing but good feelings about the whole thing. No need to punish him for such a small amount, I think. Everybody makes mistakes; everyone needs a break now and again. The book will sell again eventually. |
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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| On the note of “not as described” its physically impossible for one to photo the interior pages; so that’s just dumb. @Tedsaid You have a point. I think blocking is coming from the complete irrational behavior of this buyer along with the supposed immediate credit dispute. Feathers get ruffled very quickly when someone escalates return issues for no good reason. Been there done that. No need to drag it out Hopefully eBay will just require the buyer to pay return shipping and you can wash your hands of it. |
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 I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @Tedsaid The quote about "another bad seller" means that he is leaving a path of victims in his wake. I do not think this is someone who is in dire need of $73 but someone with a total lack of disregard for the consequences that his bad decisions have for others. Keep in mind but he did not send me a message first, he went directly to open a case against me. When I didn't fold like a cheap tent he quickly filed a chargeback and made false accusations against me. If he wanted to get on my bad side he outdid himself. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Meh, it's your choice how you want to react to him. You can fight back and try to "win" the dispute, and cultivate all those negative emotions. Or, you can choose to interpret his actions in as good a light as possible, and be charitable, and just ... let the anger go. I guess it just comes down to, how miserable do you want to be over this? I don't think it's worth it myself. But I get it ... sometimes I go the hard route, too. It's definitely easier that way. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| @Tedsaid Maybe the guy needs the $73 and he is how you painted him...an emotionally immature guy with little self worth and self respect with a penchant for embellishment....but it's just as likely that maybe he doesn't believe the rules apply to him. Maybe in some weird way he gets off on stirring sh!t up. He could be a person that feels everyone owes him something. We can speculate all we want but from what we actually know, he's in the wrong and eBay should side with @drchaos.  |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| I've gotten to the point with Ebay where I'm actually HAPPY when they request a cancelation of their purchase/win from me, before I ship it and later ask to return. I'm not dealing with shipping, returns, finances, aggravation, etc.. It's just a lost sale which unto itself stinks, but not nearly what is going in with @drchaos |
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Captain Corrector
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| @drchaos You will not have to issue a refund. Furthermore, acquiescing to his demands will only embolden, encourage and enable him to do this again and again. |
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Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck ...checking thesaurus... |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
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| @00slim funny story: in 7th grade I was in the Pennsylvania state spelling bee. Guess what word I spelled wrong? Yup... acquiescence. Everytime I see that word I cringe...lol | ||
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by the420bandito It's kind like Ebay has become the old dirty downtown area where all the riff-raff hang out and harrass the old shop owners with nonsense. And the forums and MCS are like the suburbs where the older more mature part of the industry have fled to in order to get away from the riff-raff. I think it's because Ebay has tolerated nonsense from buyers for so long that it has a reputation as the place to hang out if you're a buyer intent on nonsense. |
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 I'll probably wake up constipated.
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| I did a huge amount of business (comics) on Ebay from 2001-08,.. back when it was fun. The stories I've read over the years since then, it seems like Ebay is forcing sellers to operate like a Wal-Mart and accept any returns.. regardless. | ||
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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So I opened the dispute with the following gif as evidence: |
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| I hope it works out for you. The buyers sounds like a douche. | ||
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 If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos That looks like a flow chart created by Pinky and the Brain. |
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Masculinity takes a holiday.
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Quote:Originally Posted by DrWatson lol, I couldn't quite put my finger on where I had seen it before. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia  |
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I had no way of knowing that 9.8 graded copies signed by Adam Hughes weren't what you were looking for.
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| @DrWatson I was only allowed one pic, I had to make it count. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I don't know what this is about, GAC, but nothing you said here contradicts anything I've said. Well ... you misinterpreted a few things. I didn't say he has little self worth, or self respect, for example. Reading comprehension problems, I guess. But yeah, you can choose to interpret his actions in a positive way, or you can choose to interpret his actions in a negative way. That was my point. I mean, we don't know, right? You have no idea what he's going through, where his head's at. So if you don't know, then my opinion is, it's best to be charitable. I mean, why not? Is it really worth taking the chance of making some stranger's life tough over just $73? A over a comic you will get back, and can sell again? Anyway, I've seen other people complain about eBay "always" taking the side of the buyer, but I don't see it myself. They've always taking my side, buyer or seller, on the very few disputes I've had. No complaints from me. I know others have had worse luck, but yeah, I reckon eBay will be on @drchaos' side here, too. Certainly, they should be, if he doesn't want to let it go. |
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Tedsaid private msg quote post Address this user | |
| You spent the time to create this, just for this one dispute? Wow. I thought you bought and sold stuff on eBay all the time. Am I misremembering? You're saddlerivercomics, right? You must be really worried that eBay will side with the buyer, to go to this much trouble. Have you been screwed over by eBay before? Quote: Originally Posted by drchaos |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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Quote:Originally Posted by drchaos Indeed. |
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If I could, I would. I swear.
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| @drchaos I'm all for you. These type of people drive me insane. I rent vacation homes. People will make reservations and then ask questions such as, "Can you guarantee the rental will be completely free of sipders, scorpions, and other bugs while we are there?" I'm like, "We are in the woods next to a one million acre national park, so no." |
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 Beaten by boat oars
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| I would fight it out of principle on the way he wanted to handle the return. So, f*** him. | ||
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