CGC prices increase, discounts for members/dealers reduced14436
 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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Also, international shipping rates have become outrageous (I'm assuming they were much lower before) and you'll have to pay this much for a package that isn't even insured: How much is international return shipping at CBCS? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Rafel It's becoming more and more apparent that CGC is for the Industry insiders and CBCS is for the rest of us. |
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 It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors.
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 Ima gonna steal this and look for some occasion to use it!
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| @SpiderTim As Flanders notes, prescreen for grading of moderns is still available - at a substantial price increase for rejects. The confusion over if prescreen for grading was still available came from the fact that along with the price increases and changes announced for CGC grading there were also changes and price increases for CCS Pressing. Prescreen for PRESSING is being eliminated for modern tier. If you want prescreen for pressing you have to pick a higher priced tier. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics That works great on a good day, but in a pandemic where even all the factories are waiting on raw goods to make the resins, cardboard, etc.. it's very much a "take it or don't" approach right now. Negotiations and price-matching isn't happening as much as we'd like, because demand on suppliers is so high across the board. |
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 I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers).Splotches is gettin old! |
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| Anyone on here has seen me be relentless with negativity towards CGC with their recent post 1975 tier quality, increased damages, grading accuracy and poor customer service. It's been abhorrent. They are a business; not an individual. And as a business I expect certain quality criteria, mitigations of damages, and good customer service. I expect this criteria from any business. However as a business, I also expect them to be in this for money and I rarely begrudge any business for increase in pricing. Any and every business is in business to make money/profits. That is #1 priority for their existence. So I actually am probably in the rare corner here of being "ok" with this as I would any other business looking to continue to increase their bottom line. Whether this comes with the absolutely necessary requirements of improving the primary reason they're in business (grading accuracy); as well as improving the qty of damages; as well as improved customer services remains to be seen. That is what has bothered me significantly. This price increase - not so much. |
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| @CaptainCanuck for real | ||
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| the other thing CGC did was take out the 10% discount of the middle tier membership they took the high level one from 15% off to 10% and knocked the dealer discount from @05 to 15% that's the one i'm not happy about, the small increase, these things happen, it's the sticking it to people with the memberships and extra increases like prescreening |
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 SpongeBob Comics #1 sells for $991!
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| I just got my last submission back from CGC last week. I had already decided I was done with them already for a few reasons; CBCS for the win. | ||
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| @Rafel well said!! | ||
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| I've been contemplating if I wanted to move on from CGC. I've only been submitting there for a little less than a year, and then buying some CGC slabs I want/like as money and availability permits. I think I'd already made the decision to not renew my membership, even before this price increase + decrease to benefits. Plan was just to use dealers and their 20, now 15, percent discount to grade anything I wanted. Now, it may just be about Signature Series stuff. As of right now, CGC gets a lot more of the artists and authors I like than CBCS does. When/if that changes I might cut the cord completely to CGC, but until it does there's no way I don't keep submitting to CGC, at least for the SS stuff. I just did my first 4 book submission to CBCS the other day, books arrived there 2 days ago. I'm interested to see how the process goes and how it all turns out. That will be a huge deciding factor for me as well. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by xvipah someone will know the answer to this as i mentioned above, CGC got rid of the discounts with the middle tier and reduced all the others. so i started looking at the CBCS member program and see that the price of modern goes from $18-$16 if i pay $100 a year. when they run the sales (like in jamuary 15% off, or now 10% off qo or more) does that % come off the $16? in other words in january it would have been $13.60 a book or $14.44 now for an order of 10 or more? |
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| @Lord_Raiden yeah, pretty sure that's right. | ||
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 Have I told you about the time I dropped off 3,000 comics at SDCC?
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| @Lord_Raiden - yes, the special discount comes of the discounted member price. @nuffsaid111 - I think you are on the right page with your take. Business is supply and demand at the root. As we all know, demand is sky high right now. So, it should come as no surprise that they would take the step to increase their prices. Will they lose some people? Yes. Will some come over to CBCS? Likely yes. Now comes the balancing act for CBCS...Increased submissions, increase market share and exposure without sacrificing quality. Hopefully they can take advantage and do all of that without having to make in kind price increases in the near future. In time though, if CBCS does increase it fan base and market share, unless their supply costs and production costs come down and/or their margins increase, they too will have to increase. Flip-side is this rampant comic speculation market evaporates sooner than later, and CBCS volume goes down in kind but still picks up market share from cgc without having to increase prices. Goldilocks much? |
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| Another thing to consider is the loyalty crowd. People will support cgc no matter what the price increase is and other will follow CBCS regardless of what they're doing over there. Really, nobody losses. | ||
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| . It might bite them in the ass. CGC has a huge market share right now, but monopolies eventually learn that they can’t just do whatever they want. |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Comicninja0215 I think the CGC loyalty is more fragile than CBCSs. I'd bet a very significant % of their clients are loyal because of the perceived (real or not) notion that CGC commands higher re-sale value. If and when parity is achieved or CBCS surpasses CGC, then we'll see where their loyalties are. |
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| . If CBCS doesn’t challenge their market share, maybe another company will come along. Look what happened to video game grading. WATA games started in April 2018 and they became the preeminent grading and certification leader for the video game collectible market. Prior to that, Video Game Authority was the go to company, having the market to themselves for the last 16 years. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuck That's very interesting..wow! Thanks for sharing this. CBCS....take note! |
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| @GAC OOOOO I like that! | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC Definitely take note |
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| Could this be CBCS turn in the spotlight??? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I would bet, that has been a thing for awhile now. Lots of folks I have talked to said CGC commands a higher price. They also said that people who think CBCS grades stricter are high. Gee, I wonder who's side their on. |
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| It's pretty simple: If people don't sell CBCS slabs, then people won't buy them. I can find a CGC slab for sale of any/all comic books that I have ever been interested in. I can almost never find a CBCS slab that I want. | ||
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| @Comicninja0215 Quote: Originally Posted by Comicninja0215 CBCS is aware. @sborock is/was affiliated with WATA clickable text |
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| At the end of the day, money talks. While I believe CBCS is superior in most ways, I'm not blind to CGC commanding more money on equally graded books. People that don't see the financial difference between the two in my view are blinded by their loyalty. Nobody should be that devoted to anything. When you devote so much time and effort into something, it almost consumes you like a cult. In my opinion, you have to see and acknowledge the faults even in the things you love to really appreciate something. |
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| We like people for their quality love them for their defects....@bronte that last part hit pretty hard not just in our discussion but in life also. | ||
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| This will most likely grow the hobby in big ways and at the same time stomp a Godzilla sized foot on pgx.. | ||
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| Unfortunately, what you guys are seeing are the effects of inflation in the U.S. So much money was printed and given out freely in the last year that the price of everything must go up to adjust. You'll see things at the supermarket, retailers, etc. adjust as well. CBCS will raise their prices too, they must, the dollar is worth less than before. |
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