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| I was thinking about how DC used fictional geography like Metropolis and Gotham while Marvel went for real geography...primarily New York. Was that bit of realism an important ingredient in the recipe that led Marvel to popularity over DC? Maybe it made Marvel more relatable? Just a thought. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Yes. Plus their stories weren't what ifs, hoaxes, dreams, or imaginary tales. There's nothing like getting Bobby Ewing'ed on a regular basis. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HotKeyComics No, but I'm sure it has happened. Probably with a book submitted for SS, especially with the cgc. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia No. Fast follower benefits (hard to stay king forever) on the books side and private equity revitalization through bankruptcy on the media side. Gotham and Metropolis are iconic and more interesting because they are fictional. This is coming from someone who spent most of his adult life in Manhattan and has the same alma mater as Peter and Matt and was a big Spidey fan… |
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| Is the big test of collectibles coming this year? Fed funds increasing, QE reversing and crypto getting pinched… My crypto portfolio is down about 35% from peak (several mega key books worth) and I suspect some of the major spec activity this year has been from crypto gamblers and their ilk. Same general drivers too… Or does the “new normal” cement collectibles and comics for another year or more? My position remains to keep focused on rare books that have not been “too” trendy. I expect they too will get hit (none are immune), just not nearly as badly. Every market would get hit in my scenario except possibly gold and old school energy investments… Or we could get bailout v4.0 and another massive boom cycle. Anyone following the macro side closely aside from my pal @Towmater ? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafiaActually its a spot on observation according to many of Stan lees comments....he was on a video I saw once explaining why Marvel had more appeal to readers and explained it qute similarly but in this context. He said....Dc just expects the readers to fill in the missing pieces mentally for them...using their imagination...so when you see superman fly, he just lifts his arm and says up up and away..and off he goes with no visible means or reason. When thor flies, you see him spin the hammer, and be lifted and have a visible means to actually fly...Stan stated this primary difference in using realistic powers, places and things is what made Marvel appeal more to more mature readers at the time...your own mileage may vary of course |
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| Stan also intorduced a "soap opera" feel that DC did not have. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town Exactly. DC books like Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns, The Sandman, Detective Comics and Showcase (for their eras), Batman in the 70s through 80s really, all were lighthearted, simplistic fare whereas Incredible Hulk and its ilk were far deeper and more philosophical. I think soap opera is a good description - making the unrealistic appear more realistic by context and settings… Absolutely nothing to do with licensing and monetization approaches taken in the 90s (post bankruptcy) or the replicate/expand approach to characters in the 60s / 70s. Much like Toyota became the behemoth it now is through more creative design and innovation rather than through replication and improvement of processes, and leveraging the trailblazing done by others. Also agree it can be summarized by immature readers gravitating to DC and more intelligent and mature readers gravitating towards the trials and tribulations of the far more realistic (and wholly original!) Thor or Dr. Strange. Stan Lee really was a creative genius and not a marketing and corporate genius… Spot on. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by GAC If Bob Kane insisted on taking the credit for all of the good aspects of Batman, he also had to own up to the bad aspects, such as lifting exact panels and storylines from other artist’s work, especially from the Shadow. |
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| @CaptainCanuck there is little that is wholly original. In music you can play me virtually any song and I can find the same chord progression, melody or rhythm in a prior song. Some very directly lifted intentionally, some unintentionally. What matters is the whole end product. Is the sum of the parts distinct enough and successful enough to merit standing alone? Led Zeppelin has been criticized as stealing music. I have listened to the “sources” of that “stealing” and the world would be an emptier, less musical place if they didn’t do some borrowing… because the end product is entirely distinguishable. This whole credit assessment years later is tough. The loudest voice gets the most attention and popular credit. In cases or work for hire, it is often very blurry - I know in some instances without the lead direction (the tone/overarching story/key details) the story would not be the same. The work for hire may do 90% of the “work” but in reality contribute less than 10% or what makes the end result spectacular. The inverse is often true too - and because negotiating and creative skills are rarely in equal measure, those creators may get the shaft. It is why I really respect people like Neal Adams who may be a cantankerous <>, he clearly had the mix of savvy. It is why I am also skeptical of the broad credit of legends like Stan Lee. No doubt a massive contributor but based on what I have seen, likely massively overstated vs his collaborators. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave Sounds like you need to read the O'Neil/Adams stories from the 70s. They got rid of Robin (thank Jebus!) and returned Batman to his gritty detective roots. The 70s was the era where Batman got his balls back. Grittier story lines combined with more detailed almost gothic style art helped us forget the campy TV show. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia Not sure one was more or less readable..dont forget...Marvel went bankrupt and DC bailed them out. How does that speak to readability/popularity? What really saved Marvels ass was the movies and rightly or wrongly they had one front man...Stan. There are other threads with Bill Finger and Bob Kane...Stan wasn't much better...nowhere in modern marvel movie etc. do you have Ditko or Wally Wood etc. getting the recognition they deserve...its all Stan....maybe a tiny bit of Kirby |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HexView If both of these statements are sarcasm, then Bravo...well played. But I'm pretty sure it's just the top one. |
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| when you see superman fly, he just lifts his arm and says up up and away..and off he goes with no visible means or reason. When thor flies, you see him spin the hammer, and be lifted and have a visible means to actually fly...Stan stated this primary difference in using realistic powers, places and things is what made Marvel appeal more to more mature readers at the time I would love to go with that, but I've known a lot of salesmen in my time and I'm pretty sure that Stan Lee is a part of our tribe. We like to do what's called HARKing (Hypothesizing After Results are Known) and create stories that give all the credit to ourselves and the genius behind the product we are selling. We hear little ideas and glom onto them, turning them into historical fact as if there was a master plan rather than just happy coincidences. I would like to have had the chance to question Stan on some of his comments. I would have said something like "let's not talk just yet about the realistic propulsion aspects of the hammer." "Let's go back to the stick that bangs on the ground and summons a Norse God while turning into the hammer." But maybe he just meant it as a happy coincidence, the same way I'm thinking about the realistic geography. |
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| Well even then he would win the discussion...because again cause and effect, the banging of the stick causes the character to appear and form the Norse god....vs Dc who has the character just utter the word...Shazam. If he is HARKing, he is doing a decent job of making the case in most scenarios I see....but then of course your mileage may vary | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave I do. I'm pretty sure bailout 4.0 is the most likely scenario (why would we stop at 3?) I'm more concerned with the value of a dollar than with the value of anything else. Even with just the Infrastructure bill I imagine a scenario where customers are waving dollars in my face and I just can't get the labor or materials to do their project. If I can only supply 1 out of 10 customers, the little bit of supply that I have is going to go to the customer who is willing to pay 10x the normal price. |
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| Considering their abilities and powers (or lack of), shouldn't Daredevil and Batman swap names? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Davethebrave @Davethebrave Watch the video if you get a chance. This isn’t “inspired”, it’s actually lifted from other artists. |
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| Bob Saget passed: RIP | ||
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| Is it just me or is GoCollect down? | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by CaptainCanuckthat’s what I get |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmashlol...stopped even looking at gocollect since the "upgrade" |
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| @Davethebrave My ideas in the coming 18 or so months… 1) I agree with the big banks. A correction is coming. It will start in the late spring to summer. I just believe it will be worse than the 10 to 15% number being tossed about in the press. 2) Consumer demand will normalize over the next 6 months. After that, who knows but I don’t see a return to the roaring 20’s style we have been living in again. 3) The Fed is going to start turning the tap off and will continue the turn throughout the next 18-24 months. The “free” money that primed the pump is over. 4) The shift in the “message” we are all seeing, about a certain something we can’t talk about, is an attempt to get people back to work and right the ship. Too bad it has come to late. 5) We are at peak pricing or on the downside on collectibles. The next year will be interesting. If I’m right then the pain is at the doorstep. It isn’t going to be a fun 24 to 48 month period. I lived through this before in the late 1970’s. I’m wrong then everyone can make fun of me and I’ll still have gotten my financial house in order so the next generation of my family doesn’t have to do it when I pass. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Towmater I don’t disagree with much of what you’re saying. I’ve had conversations with several large ($10bn+) investors who are actively looking to de-risk. Now, de-risking is a funny term. In their case it means reducing correlation with things like the S&P500. This is based off portfolio theory dating back decades. The funny thing is it tends to include looking at alt-assets like collectibles… funny, right? In that case the focus is less on absolute notions of “expensive or cheap” but instead relative price movements over time and their correlations to stocks and bonds. My message back was we need to be concerned with the convergence on 1.0. What that means is a move towards correlation in specific points of time even when historic correlation isn’t apparent. I raised similar concerns pre-2008/09 financial crisis, mind you about a year or two “too soon”. In short, I tend to agree with your basic view. However - how things actually play out in a heavily politicized environment (from BOTH sides) is not mathematically precise or predictable. Nearly as dangerous as taking too many risks (too much debt, too much speculation) is not taking enough “risk” if we are stuck in a cash devaluation cycle. For example, if everyone is foolish or speculates too aggressively, government policy will always be to try and appease and bailout. It won’t be described this way but that will be the end result. In a case like that cash (and prudence) gets hammered. That cycle can be persistent or at least not be meaningfully unwound/reversed. I see virtually no asset class that has not undergone major repricing (higher). I see virtually no asset that wouldn’t get massively hammered by a big increase in interest rates. So I see politics being a risk to rational prudence.. Again, I don’t disagree with a lot of your views… I just won’t put all my eggs in one basket. Rather my moves have been to keep some baskets of assets but be selective for long-term value when the more pure “speculative” component goes away, leaving instead just “excess” cash that was already injected into the system. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by KatKomics At 50 I'm in super villain shape. Think Blob, Mojo, Doc Oc, The Clown (Violator). |
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