Curious if anyone else uses the Shortboxed App....14056
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Donnied private msg quote post Address this user | |
| I have another suggestion for this App, how about a counter to show page views? It would give me a better idea if anybody is actually looking at my listings or are they just getting lost in the shuffle. So far I've had two lowball offers and that's all. If I knew that 50 people have looked but passed, then maybe my price needs to be adjusted. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Donnied This is great to hear, because we actually have this on the roadmap already. There's a couple things coming: For buyers, we'll be displaying "hot" or "trending" books based on clicks and favorites. For sellers, in the seller portal we'll be displaying the total views, total unique viewers, and number of favorites on every book that's listed. We're targeting Q3 for this release, so it's a bit further out, but it's coming. |
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| Revisting the price eruption Giant size x men has seen this past few weeks, you can now visit GPA and find examples of the book selling vastly over Incredible hulk 181 prices in all grades clear down to 2.0 with examples all selling in March 2021,with the book nailing down a whopping three grand even in 4.5 grade. At the high end is an example in 9.8 hitting 22,500 while a 9.4 still cleared 12,500 | ||
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 If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| Yeah, GSX has definitely heated up from what I've seen on eBay. ComicLink's current auction has a few comparables closing in just under a week: 181 9.2 $12250 GSX 9.2 $6655 181 9.0 $9412 GSX 9.0 $5655 181 8.5 $6100 GSX 8.5 $5555 181 8.0 $5812 GSX 8.0 $4200 181 6.5 $4778 GSX 6.5 $3200 181 5.5 $2712 GSX 5.5 $2211 181 4.0 $2300 GSX 4.0 $1450 These definitely slant pro-Wolvie, but there's still 5-6 days for things to change. |
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| I would also suggest that a record number of these books are seeing market with the higher profile pricing happening...alot of folks cashing in....its somewhat stunning how people keep somehow finding the money to spend for it. Not a silver age key, and over 50 years old with the first appearance of thor or spider man but the book has hit some pretty serious sales levels. (kicking myself for owning three copies of this book and letting them all go before keeping the one I did) Trick question is, does this start the wave up for the book or is it almost done cresting? With hardly any news released about the upcoming x men projects from Disney/Marvel I predict the book will ride higher somewhat .... Although given the massive jumps its taken it might now allow Hulk 181 moving forward a better chance to be the right choice, than it was the last year. |
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 You do know that the new guy brings the donuts, right?
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| It's interesting how GPA reports the 90-day average for the 9.4 ($8631 for 9 sales) as being right about the same as the 90-day average for the 9.6 ($8600 for 4 sales). I'm sure that's just an anomaly but, if anyone has the $$$ and can find a 9.6, s/he might be able to negotiate a decent deal. |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk The GSX lots closed yesterday, Hulk 181 tonight. I'll update after they do, as I'm pretty curious how they'll compare to eBay prices. I've seen a few posts about how GPA doesn't seem to be keeping up with high eBay sales that end up relisted. Not all, of course, but some. I assume this is less of an issue with ComicLink (although I could be wrong!). |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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| Here's what's finished. There are some green/purple labels and other low grades ending later in the ComicLink auction, but this is all the good stuff. GSX 9.8 $67,900 GXX 9.6 $18,250 GSX 9.2 $9,700 Hulk 9.2 $15,500 GSX 9.0 $9,300 Hulk 9.0 $13,100 GSX 8.5 $7,433 Hulk 8.5 $8,400 GSX 8.0 $6,900 Hulk 8.0 $8,200 GSX 7.0 $5,500 GSX 6.5 $4,411 Hulk 6.5 $5,031 GSX 5.5 $3,533 Hulk 5.5 $4,300 GSX 4.5 $3,522 GSX 4.0 $2,955 Hulk 4.0 $3,202 Hulk 2.5 $1,931 So Hulk 181 outperformed at every common grade. All of these are higher than gocollect has listed, although gocollect has Hulk at a higher price at every grade at least. I wonder why this pattern differs so much from GPA. |
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| Thanks for offering all that data, it sure does reflect quite differently than GPA is showing for their venues they are reporting sales for. I assume you took the prices direct from Comiclink....rather than gocollect. Are there any added on fees or addional costs added to those sales to finalize them or is that final tally? | ||
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8.
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xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @Darkseid_of_town it is direct from ComicLink; you can see closed auction prices if you're logged in (accounts are free and you obviously need one to bid). There's a 3% buyer's fee and tax/shipping, but those are not included in the prices I listed. | ||
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| I think I've gi ven this website/app a fair shake, I listed some books, but have not sold anything. I got a few lowball offers, but nothing legit. Since both of the offers happened just after I listed (or after editing and relisting) I wonder if buyers there only look at the "view new listings" section. Dead silence since then. I've pulled my books off. Maybe I'll try again in 6 months. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by Donnied Thanks for checking out the app, truly. New books gets the most eyeballs naturally, but older listings sell just as frequently - many times (as we all know) it's just a matter of the right person looking for a particular book at the right time. For this reason, if you haven't already removed the books, you can just leave the listings up indefinitely as long as they're still available - it's a marketplace not an auction, so books can remain listed as long as you like and see if anyone bites. We're also investing in and building a lot of "discoverability" features, to make it easier for users to find books, including some machine learning algorithms and personalization engines to intelligently promote books that users may be interested in based on their app behavior (likes, searches, history, etc), smarter search, and wishlists and in-app notifications. Lots of cool stuff coming  Appreciate all the feedback and support so far! -Gene |
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 I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this.
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| Regie Collects talks to Gene from Shortboxed. Interview begins at 7 minute 25 second mark. Interesting stuff here: |
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 I live in RI and Rhode Islanders eat chili with beans.
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| Tried it out by ordering a book last week. Tracking says the label was created on 4/29, but the package is not showing as mailed yet. I will keep you posted. | ||
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 Not trying to be an ass since February 12, 2020.
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| So there is a (interesting?) flaw in shortboxed. You can make an offer on your own book and subsequently decline your own offer. This will show a “highest offer” amount. I found this by accident so I’m sure others may be doing this as a way to deter lower than acceptable offers. | ||
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 I'd like to say I still turned out alright, but that would be a lie.
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| @HulkSmash at least you got an offer, no one is interested in my dreck . |
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Quote:Originally Posted by HulkSmash This is actually a bug that we're aware of and currently building a fix for. We're also building a feature for sellers to set an auto-decline offer limit on their own; i.e. "auto-decline any offers below 80% of asking price." This has been one of our most requested features from sellers and is coming soon. |
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 Masculinity takes a holiday.
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EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user | |
| @shortboxed a couple tax questions: 1) Do you know anything about your 2022 IRS reporting requirements for sellers using your platform? 2) Do you incur a sales tax liability in any states? I would assume not if your are just putting buyers and sellers together or if your volume is not currently high enough outside your home state. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by EbayMafia As of this year, we're automatically sending 1099 forms to sellers for total sales over $600. That number is set by the IRS and, of course, subject to change whenever they decide to tell us it's a different number. But we're in full compliance with reporting. We currently only charge sales tax in CA - for now. We have not yet hit the threshold to charge sales tax in other states yet, but we will soon in a few. Every state has different requirements; some states it's $100k in sales in a year, could be more or less. We track, report and file this automatically. |
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| @shortboxed Thank you for the quick answer. I had thought the $600 threshold went into effect in 2022, but you probably know better than me. Unfortunately I live in California but there are probably a good 25-30 states where buyers can currently save about 10% by buying from the smaller platforms like yours vs MCS or Ebay. It's a meaningful advantage for the smaller platforms that are trying to get established. I don't mean to tell anyone how to run their business but I will give you this thought to consider, and this need has just arisen in the last 18 months with tax law changes: What many smaller sellers like myself could really use is a platform like Autotrader.com. Something Where we pay a flat fee upfront to list our item and you don't facilitate the sale, you just provide our contact information to potential buyers. A platform like this would legally eliminate both sales tax obligations on the sellers part and IRS reporting requirements on your part. I really think it's going to be the future of collectibles trading once thousands of sellers receive their first round of 1099 forms in January 2022. Just something for you guys to mull over as you watch things shake out into the start of 2022. I think that whoever gets a jump on this would eventually be able to charge a small monthly membership fee to buyers and sellers just to be a part of the club. |
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| @shortboxed I like the app. I was a doubter at first but the ease and speed of posting comics is what did it for me. I've bought and sold on the platform now and have had no problems. My one suggestion would be with accepted offers. Right now someone can accept an offer and just decide not to pay. That seems like a flaw. Are they accountable in any way? Do they get booted off the app for being a knucklehead too many times? |
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| Just purchased my first book off the Shortboxed app. We'll see how it goes. | ||
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad First off, so sorry for the super late reply - I must have missed the email notification for this message. Thanks for the kind words! Glad you've had a good experience so far. Regarding accepted offers, we do permanently suspend users who repeatedly don't follow through on accepted offers. We originally designed the system this way because it allows other users to submit higher offers or purchase the book outright, and in many cases, a seller receives higher offers and higher sales as a result, because it creates a pseudo "bidding war." However, the downside results in buyers abandoning orders completely. We'll be changing this process in the near future, though, based on user feedback and insights we've seen over the past year or so. With the upcoming change, if a seller submits an offer and it is accepted, they will be automatically charged and an order will be sent to the seller. The net results may be a few less offers, but with a high fulfillment rate. We're 3-4 weeks out from shipping this new feature. Any thoughts or feedback here? Quote: Originally Posted by DrWatson Thanks for giving it a try! Please feel free to send a follow up comment here, a DM, or email us if you have any questions or issues with anything. Appreciate the support. |
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| I downloaded the app last month and have checked out the books but when I submit an offer I never heard and it feels like all the books I've seen are listed way over FMV as opposed to the cgc boards , fee bay and mercari. | ||
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| I made an offer and it was reasonably countered in a couple of hours. I paid a little extra compared to the last GPA sales, but the book had perfect registration and white pages. Two things this particular book isn't known for. | ||
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| @shortboxed I can see what you were trying to do with open offers until a seller accepts, but that concept was never made clear, so it's confusing for sellers. I much prefer the change you're making so that an accepted offer is a binding transaction. Any thoughts on creating an auction feature or hosting a monthly auction like ComicLink, ComicConnect, et al? |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Mmanick LOL |
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Quote:Originally Posted by Mmanick Hey thanks for checking out the app! As you know, Shortboxed is an open market and we do not dictate prices for sellers, they are free to price however they want. With over 10k slabs currently listed for sale, there are books that are over FMV, but there are also a lot that are under, and those tend to sell very fast - sometimes within minutes of being listed. However, we do find that the majority of books are listed within a fair range of FMV. Fairly priced keys sell VERY quickly and don't even get noticed by a lot of people. But yes, admittedly there are some books that are ridiculously overpriced which is definitely something we as collectors see on every single marketplace. We're building some new features to address this, including adding some pricing data to better inform not just potential buyers, but also sellers when they submit their books for sale. We've even considered blocking any books that are listed over "X% above FMV" (i.e. 100% over FMV) but at the end of the day, sellers are free to price however they want and obviously those books sit idle. |
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Quote:Originally Posted by MatterEaterLad It's something quite a few folks have asked about, but right now we're laser focused on building out our core feature set. There are still a lot of features and improvements we need to make for both buyers and sellers. Some of the most important areas we're focused on right now are: adding more payment methods, faster seller payouts, more data and tools for sellers, and improving the overall user experience with UI enhancements, improved policies (like the change we're making to offers), and of course opening up to Canada and the UK. That's a long way of saying, we'll consider it in the future but we're focused on other things right now |
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Quote:Originally Posted by shortboxedthanks for the reply. How about the time frame on offers? I sent an offer on one book and heard back from the guy a week later and the other offer I never heard back on. I ended buying both books elsewhere. I didnt know if they were going to respond or not so I did what I had to do by making deals elsewhere. |
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