Not a CBCS member yet? Join now »
CBCS Comics
Not a CBCS member yet? Join now »

CGC Reholdering Gone Wrong14048

Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by SidTheSquid
Quote:
Originally Posted by xkonk
I think it's bad for the hobby. If the company looks at a book in a slab and, even at a cursory glance, says "yikes, this isn't that grade any more", who other than the current owner would want the book sent back to that person with the wrong number on it?


You might be right on that. However the book and slab do still belong to the customer at that point. They should be in control of it. Until seeing Murmonster's screen capture, I had never heard anything from either company about the potential for a grade drop. This should be made readily understandable before someone sends in for a re-holder. I had always been under the impression that once I get the book slabbed, the grading process is over.

Quote:
Originally Posted by xkonk
The whole point of third-party grading is to have professionals give a broadly acceptable estimate of a book's condition.


This just makes me wonder, where does the "guarantee" part come in? They're not even assuring you the book in their protective case is even the grade that it was when it was encapsulated.


Apparently the info is there. If it isn't readily understandable, that's usually because it wasn't read. Too much to ask of too many people, these days.
I couldn't blame either company for not sending a slab back knowing the grade is no longer (subjectively) accurate.
Post 26 IP   flag post
Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redmisty4me
If the book was damaged after the original slabbing & the grade clearly less than originally noted, you would want CGC to grant the original grade?

Talk about something that would - and SHOULD! - create a controversy!


Oh, I'm sure eBay is oozing with people who would want that very thing, for very obvious reasons.
The companies owe it to themselves to regrade it- Their name is on the label next to the suspect grade.
I can imagine all the complaint posts/emails, "They sent this back to me when it's clearly not the same grade! What am I supposed to do, pay to ship it back AGAIN?? They just had it!"
Post 27 IP   flag post
Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by xkonk
Quote:
Originally Posted by SidTheSquid
I think a reasonable option might be, look the book over in the case and if it looks like the grade might be different, DON'T crack it, and send it back to the customer.


I know that's what customers might want (I wouldn't want my reholder book to come back worse than I sent it!) but I think it's bad for the hobby. If the company looks at a book in a slab and, even at a cursory glance, says "yikes, this isn't that grade any more", who other than the current owner would want the book sent back to that person with the wrong number on it? The whole point of third-party grading is to have professionals give a broadly acceptable estimate of a book's condition.

Also, if someone sends a book for reholder then they're basically asking the company to crack it. Specifically, crack it and put it in a new slab. I don't see any reason a customer should expect their book to not be cracked.


Exactly.
Post 28 IP   flag post
Masculinity takes a holiday. EbayMafia private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siggy
Apparently the info is there. If it isn't readily understandable, that's usually because it wasn't read. Too much to ask of too many people, these days.


Oh @Siggy, you have no idea how right you are. In remote teaching college courses my wife learned that there is a segment of the students who are totally accustomed to having the instructions spoon fed to them verbally at the moment that they need them. The idea that the instructions are prepared in writing in advance and put somewhere they can find them online is driving a few of the students nuts. Funny thing is that it's not the incoming Freshmen who are complaining, is the students who have been at the school for a few years.
Post 29 IP   flag post
Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by EbayMafia
Quote:
Originally Posted by Siggy
Apparently the info is there. If it isn't readily understandable, that's usually because it wasn't read. Too much to ask of too many people, these days.


Oh @Siggy, you have no idea how right you are. In remote teaching college courses my wife learned that there is a segment of the students who are totally accustomed to having the instructions spoon fed to them verbally at the moment that they need them. The idea that the instructions are prepared in writing in advance and put somewhere they can find them online is driving a few of the students nuts. Funny thing is that it's not the incoming Freshmen who are complaining, is the students who have been at the school for a few years.


Pretty damned scary thinking where that kind of intellectual laziness could ultimately lead- One step closer for the film Idiocracy becoming a documentary.
Post 30 IP   flag post


Why just the women? I like bears. Gaard private msg quote post Address this user
Quote:
Originally Posted by SidTheSquid

I think a reasonable option might be, look the book over in the case and if it looks like the grade might be different, DON'T crack it, and send it back to the customer. Once they cracked it, that's on the grading company and really speaks to the protective qualities of their product. But in any case, the grading companies should be forthright in what re-holdering entails and that you do potentially risk losing your grade by sending the book in, damaged case or not.

I think this is what they do for their crossover option - I've never done it, so I can't say for sure. But I've always understood it to be this way. I believe they give you the option to have them press it if it appears to them (before they actually grade it) that it would not keep the same grade.
Post 31 IP   flag post
638369 31 6
This topic is archived. Start new topic?