Hulk 181 question14002
Collector | rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Well I missed out on 2 copies of hulk181 priced fairly for the grade and with the prices so high now is it worth to bite the bullet and pay the higher prices now or do you think prices will come down a bit in a year or so and grab the book then? I’d hate to miss out completely on this book but not sure if these prices are legit or just being inflated? | ||
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Collector | AndyRexia private msg quote post Address this user | |
Have prices EVER come back down on this book? It plateaus from time to time but does it ever actually go down? | ||
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Collector | rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Well I meant cool off for a bit not drop in price | ||
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Collector | AndyRexia private msg quote post Address this user | |
@rckstr1253 aren't X-men books going up because of rumors/Wandavision? I don't keep track of current trends but I hope you are able to get that book! I'd love to have a copy for my son but it's too high for me. It won't happen unless it's at a garage sale or something lol. | ||
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Collector | Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user | |
Speaking from a stock investment perspective, I’d say go for it if you’re planning on keeping it long-term. If you were flipping it, I might say wait it out. While prices are really high right now, there’s some debate whether this is a bubble or the new normal. You could wait for prices to go down a little and “buy on the dip,” but overall prices are going up long-term. Hulk 181 is an established commodity at this point and isn’t reacting to rumors or the fact that Wolverine will show up in a movie. It’s basically a blue chip, so I’d jump on it. Same with GSX 1. Now, if you were asking about buying Black Panther 2, I’d say wait it out. Good luck and keep us posted on what you decide! |
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Collector | rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Jabberwookie Yea it’s be a long term keep. Wolverine is my favorite marvel character, well tied to the scarlet spider for me, but yea. Do you recommend going for a mid grade or low grade copy now? I can’t afford the 8.0 at this point |
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Collector | Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by rckstr1253 It sounds like you want this more for personal reasons first, then investment as a secondary thing. With that in mind, I’d say get the best value for your budget. Find a mid grade that presents well and don’t worry about the grade too much. There’s also always getting a raw copy, getting it pressed and graded and that might offer you a little more value. I’m not an expert, by any means, so I might wait and see if any other board members chime in, just so you have a pretty good range of opinions. Have you considered a Hulk 180, though? Technically, his actual first appearance and possibly more value for your money. Just a few thoughts. I’m totally jealous because I would love to grab a 180 or 181, but that’s a little outside my budget right now. |
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Collector | rckstr1253 private msg quote post Address this user | |
Good points. Thanks. Yea I plan to keep it. Maybe take it with me to the grave haha | ||
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I showed my wife and she was so happy for me she started to cry. | Batman66 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@rckstr1253 I find a lot of deals in Facebook groups. I subscribe to several. I've had luck with posting "in search of" posts for books I'm looking for. I post what grade and how much I would spend. Sometimes you will get responses that are unrealistic or even higher than eBay. Sometimes you get a response that you can work with. Good luck | ||
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. | xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
If you decide to go raw, make sure you can see it in hand first or you trust the seller (or both). 181 and 180 are well-known to have missing stamps, which is obvious, but you can also get married pages, which is less obvious. Or, if that doesn't bother you, then going raw might be a way to find a nice copy at a decent value. | ||
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
@xkonk This is true and kinda bizarre actually....why is IH181 singled out with a high degree of MVS cut out? Certainly other key books worthy of slabbing had MVS didn't they? | ||
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Collector | comixcited private msg quote post Address this user | |
while on the subject, I have a #181 with no stamp. what happens if I send to CBCS? can't find any examples myself. seems like CGC give it the green label (most of the time?). | ||
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The apple sauce and pudding were the best part... | Bronte private msg quote post Address this user | |
I believe CBCS just notated it on the label since they don't have purple or green labels. In some ways it's better since it leaves the buyer to actually look at what they are buying. | ||
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. | southerncross private msg quote post Address this user | |
@comixcited cut out effects story is incomplete so should grade 0.5 Cgc will grade with a qualified grade green label. Personally a qualified grade to me is like mutton dressed up as lamb. Qualified 6.0 with a piece out is still a poor condition book. Qualified was created for the seller to make more money, Qualified grade never had the collector in mind. Unless they were selling. |
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COLLECTOR | dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user | |
If I ever need to replace ONE tire on my car I could probably sell both of these and only have to chip in a $20 lol |
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Collector | comixcited private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite so it looks like the cut stamp doesn't affect story according to this label.... what's the highest a stampless could grade ya think? not that it matters much these days.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-1962-CGC-0-5-1st-App-Wolverine-OW-W-Pages-COMPLETE-/324439930734?hash=item4b8a20776e%3Ag%3AO1MAAOSw21pf8TU8&nma=true&si=DEAyMJKVk7mIcZZANsbcr5H5S6Y%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 |
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by dielinfinite Wonder if it was trimmed before or after it became coverless |
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Thank you sir. May I have another? | Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by southerncross |
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Collector | comixcited private msg quote post Address this user | |
CGC blue label 1.8 with the stamp cut out. is this the top grade possible? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Hulk-181-cgc-1-8-/265025280493?hash=item3db4bcd9ed%3Ag%3A%7E2AAAOSwzM5gDGj%7E&nma=true&si=DEAyMJKVk7mIcZZANsbcr5H5S6Y%253D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557 Quote: Originally Posted by Siggy are you saying CBCS would top out at a 0.5? |
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Thank you sir. May I have another? | Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by comixcited I have no idea what CBCS would do. I'm just clarifying points about the Green Label not always being given to damaged books. |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@dielinfinite Just curious - 2 comics from roughly the same time period. both are coverless. Both off-white/white. Both trimmed. How does one get a 0.3 and the other get a 0.1? Any clues? | ||
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Captain Corrector | CaptainCanuck private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Nuffsaid111 Quote: Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Only one of them is trimmed. |
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Thank you sir. May I have another? | Siggy private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 I don't think the GSX1 was trimmed. |
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Collector | comixcited private msg quote post Address this user | |
think I got my answer through the pop report 00-0005602-AB-002 (1.8) 19-26C6F0D-002 (2.0) 18-0131C50-001 (2.5) 17-07CC04D-078 (3.0) 17-28D50A2-013 (3.5)!! doubt there are any 4.0... |
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I'm waiting.... (tapping fingers). Splotches is gettin old! |
Nuffsaid111 private msg quote post Address this user | |
@Siggy @CaptainCanuck My bad... my eyes are going. I guess that's the difference then: the trimming | ||
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. | southerncross private msg quote post Address this user | |
Yep the qualified label because some joker wrote their name Jack Kirby, stan lee ect ect that is a qualified I'd get, then crack and send to cbcs for sig verification | ||
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COLLECTOR | dielinfinite private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 Quote: Originally Posted by Nuffsaid111 The reason is not the trimming. It is the fact that the IH 181 is missing the MVS and so it is considered incomplete. The GSX is coverless but otherwise complete Quote: Originally Posted by CBCS Website |
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If the viagra is working you should be well over a 9.8. | xkonk private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by GAC I don't think it's singled out (although I'm no expert on the topic). It's just wildly the most important book that had the stamp. |
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. | GAC private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by xkonk It is the most important but that still doesn't explain why that book seems to have the MVS cut out more than others. I get that IH181 is probably slabbed more than any other bronze age key so we're going to hear about the cut out MVS. But WBN34 1st Moon Knight is a pretty big bronze age key and I've never seen one missing a MVS....maybe it doesn't even have one. It just seems MVS removals are monopolized by IH181 and I find that strange. |
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Collector | steveinthecity private msg quote post Address this user | |
Quote:Originally Posted by xkonkI agree, there’s just more attention paid to the #181 than other popular or desirable books that had stamps. I think Astonishing Tales #25 might be the closest contender, excluding Hulk #180. It might be interesting to make a top ten list or similar. |
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