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On the subject of Chuck’s haul I’ll say this:

I’m glad he didn’t name the dealer that would not, or could not check out the collection before him. Though deductive reasoning says who it most likely is, I’m glad he didn’t blast the guy directly.

That said, I think it was in bad taste for him to say what he paid for the collection. To each their own, but I think it would have been respectful to the seller to leave that out.

I was stoked to buy 5 short boxes back in November. This sort of score is beyond what I could ever dream of.
About prices, Very Gary on You Tube mentions prices frequently. He also does a GPA comparison after getting slabbed books back. He usually states that the books were in rough shape and that is how he justifies what he spent. For the most part, I do enjoy his videos. I also enjoy Chuck's videos and I can appreciate how passionate Chuck is about comic books.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
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Maybe the guy inherited the collection.

No emotional attachment, doesn't know the comic market, doesn't want to do the work, 100% profit.

I would NEVER buy a thing from Mile High. They're prices live up to their name, and THEN some.


Pls read the first post. It says he dealt with he trader for 30 years



I did read that, @poka. So now my short term memory is shot, too???

Next I'll be grabbing the tube of Prep H instead of the toothpaste. Yuk.
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I did read that, @poka. So now my short term memory is shot, too???

Next I'll be grabbing the tube of Prep H instead of the toothpaste. Yuk.


About a year ago I was walking out of the 7-11 and the guy says "Excuse Me sir?" I look back at him and he says "Are you going to pay for that coffee?" The sad irony is that when long-term memory becomes all that we have, we just keep telling stories like this one over and over.
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It's like the Roach Motel for comic collectors. chester15 private msg quote post Address this user
I think I might be one of the few people who have never been in a 7-11. Not even sure why, but there might not be any near me.
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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On the subject of Chuck’s haul I’ll say this:

I’m glad he didn’t name the dealer that would not, or could not check out the collection before him. Though deductive reasoning says who it most likely is, I’m glad he didn’t blast the guy directly.

That said, I think it was in bad taste for him to say what he paid for the collection. To each their own, but I think it would have been respectful to the seller to leave that out.

I was stoked to buy 5 short boxes back in November. This sort of score is beyond what I could ever dream of.


I like Chuck on many levels, so perhaps prejudiced in his favor, but I don't see a problem with anything he did.

As usual, he's making a larger point, which is that LCS operators & their staff too often turn their backs on long-time customers when they're ready to sell, and that in this case, both Chuck AND the customer made out as a result of (presumably) Buddy's failure.

So a happy ending, but also a reminder to be smart & do the right thing.

On naming the price, that's a lotta cabbage (especially for what they're pictured holding as examples of the best of content), so I think it's 100% kosher to announce the amount to encourage other people looking to sell to consider Chuck as a serious potential buyer.

If (presumably) Buddy ends up a little embarrassed by this, good - he should be.

Happy buyer, happy seller, and (maybe) a sadder but wiser LCS owner who may do better next time.

And they all lived happily ever after.
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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I think I might be one of the few people who have never been in a 7-11. Not even sure why, but there might not be any near me.


Go for the 2 dollar candy bars, stay for the 99¢ pizza...
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I guess I will be that guy here than and say it....I think its very low rent to publicize the purchase and its price and attempt to dig another dealer using that information....but even more to infer or assume it was Buddy, although it would seem the logical conclusion it is still an assumption. Aside from that we are not privy to the factors regarding Buddy and the sellers interactions or what led to his ultimate decision not to view or deal here....
You can play what if all day...what if there was a death that week in Buddy's family?
What if the collection contained stolen books that Buddy was aware were present and chose to perhaps pass then?
What if Buddy was just simply never given a shot and this was misrepresented to Chuck, whom we can assume never did the dilligence thing and verified that Buddy had perhaps chosen to pass on the books.
We are assuming a whole lot based on one and only one side of a likely quite complex story that may have more factors or players than we could know.
I am willing to hold judgement here until or unless further evidence is presented myself.

Something doesnt smell right for a buyer to purchase books for thirty years from a dealer, then the dealer somehow decides to pass on buying them and the seller throws the dealer of thirty years under a bus?
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Ok - for those who do not know - Buddy and Chuck like to take stab at each other in their respective newsletters. Been going on for a long time. The example quoted above is not unique. In 2021 both Buddy and Chuck have already taken stab at each other before the example above.
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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I guess I will be that guy here than and say it....I think its very low rent to publicize the purchase and its price and attempt to dig another dealer using that information....but even more to infer or assume it was Buddy, although it would seem the logical conclusion it is still an assumption. Aside from that we are not privy to the factors regarding Buddy and the sellers interactions or what led to his ultimate decision not to view or deal here....
You can play what if all day...what if there was a death that week in Buddy's family?
What if the collection contained stolen books that Buddy was aware were present and chose to perhaps pass then?
What if Buddy was just simply never given a shot and this was misrepresented to Chuck, whom we can assume never did the dilligence thing and verified that Buddy had perhaps chosen to pass on the books.
We are assuming a whole lot based on one and only one side of a likely quite complex story that may have more factors or players than we could know.
I am willing to hold judgement here until or unless further evidence is presented myself.

Something doesnt smell right for a buyer to purchase books for thirty years from a dealer, then the dealer somehow decides to pass on buying them and the seller throws the dealer of thirty years under a bus?


It was fine; don't do the crime (of ignoring a long-time customer) if you can't do the time (of possibly being mildly embarrassed by it).

What if Martians clouded (presumably) Buddy's brain? If there were issues, the (not so) valued customer could and probably should have been apprised of them.

You can play "what if" all day, but it doesn't change the fact that the local LCS dropped the ball & Chuck didn't.

You're assuming an awful lot based on a simple, friendly release from Chuck about a purchase he's happy with, and including a reminder to treat your customers as though you value them.

Hold judgment on what? Buddy (presumably) dropped the ball, Chuck picked it up; lesson (maybe) learned; happy ending for all concerned.

Someone was thrown under a bus?

If anyone was, it was the 30-years loyal customer who was ignored it would seem; but why the big deal?

This is maybe a 1 on scale of 1 to 10, and if (presumably) Buddy learned something from it, great.

All's well.
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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Ok - for those who do not know - Buddy and Chuck like to take stab at each other in their respective newsletters. Been going on for a long time. The example quoted above is not unique. In 2021 both Buddy and Chuck have already taken stab at each other before the example above.


Yeah - a nothing burger, but Chuck definitely wins this round.

Well-played, and like the gent he is.

Moral: Treat your customers as you would wish to be treated.
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I guess I will be that guy here than and say it....I think its very low rent to publicize the purchase and its price and attempt to dig another dealer using that information....but even more to infer or assume it was Buddy, although it would seem the logical conclusion it is still an assumption. Aside from that we are not privy to the factors regarding Buddy and the sellers interactions or what led to his ultimate decision not to view or deal here....
You can play what if all day...what if there was a death that week in Buddy's family?
What if the collection contained stolen books that Buddy was aware were present and chose to perhaps pass then?
What if Buddy was just simply never given a shot and this was misrepresented to Chuck, whom we can assume never did the dilligence thing and verified that Buddy had perhaps chosen to pass on the books.
We are assuming a whole lot based on one and only one side of a likely quite complex story that may have more factors or players than we could know.
I am willing to hold judgement here until or unless further evidence is presented myself.

Something doesnt smell right for a buyer to purchase books for thirty years from a dealer, then the dealer somehow decides to pass on buying them and the seller throws the dealer of thirty years under a bus?


It was fine; don't do the crime (of ignoring a long-time customer) if you can't do the time (of possibly being mildly embarrassed by it).

What if Martians clouded (presumably) Buddy's brain? If there were issues, the (not so) valued customer could and probably should have been apprised of them.

You can play "what if" all day, but it doesn't change the fact that the local LCS dropped the ball & Chuck didn't.

You're assuming an awful lot based on a simple, friendly release from Chuck about a purchase he's happy with, and including a reminder to treat your customers as though you value them.

Hold judgment on what? Buddy dropped the ball, Chuck picked it up; lesson (maybe) learned; happy ending for all concerned.

Someone was thrown under a bus?

If anyone was, it was the 30-years loyal customer who was ignored it would seem; but why the bidg deal?

This is maybe a 2 on scale of 1 to 10, and if (presumably) Buddy learned something from it, great.

All's well.
Sure, if you choose to accept only one side of the story without anything to support it for evidence. Taking the release Chuck made as all encompassing final word and truth of all that happened isnt going to work for me until or unless i get to hear the other side of it, which I may never...but I wont be judging nor forming my view without it. It seems to me taking this "release" at full face value is "assuming an awful lot" as well honestly
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Collector Redmisty4me private msg quote post Address this user
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I guess I will be that guy here than and say it....I think its very low rent to publicize the purchase and its price and attempt to dig another dealer using that information....but even more to infer or assume it was Buddy, although it would seem the logical conclusion it is still an assumption. Aside from that we are not privy to the factors regarding Buddy and the sellers interactions or what led to his ultimate decision not to view or deal here....
You can play what if all day...what if there was a death that week in Buddy's family?
What if the collection contained stolen books that Buddy was aware were present and chose to perhaps pass then?
What if Buddy was just simply never given a shot and this was misrepresented to Chuck, whom we can assume never did the dilligence thing and verified that Buddy had perhaps chosen to pass on the books.
We are assuming a whole lot based on one and only one side of a likely quite complex story that may have more factors or players than we could know.
I am willing to hold judgement here until or unless further evidence is presented myself.

Something doesnt smell right for a buyer to purchase books for thirty years from a dealer, then the dealer somehow decides to pass on buying them and the seller throws the dealer of thirty years under a bus?


It was fine; don't do the crime (of ignoring a long-time customer) if you can't do the time (of possibly being mildly embarrassed by it).

What if Martians clouded (presumably) Buddy's brain? If there were issues, the (not so) valued customer could and probably should have been apprised of them.

You can play "what if" all day, but it doesn't change the fact that the local LCS dropped the ball & Chuck didn't.

You're assuming an awful lot based on a simple, friendly release from Chuck about a purchase he's happy with, and including a reminder to treat your customers as though you value them.

Hold judgment on what? Buddy dropped the ball, Chuck picked it up; lesson (maybe) learned; happy ending for all concerned.

Someone was thrown under a bus?

If anyone was, it was the 30-years loyal customer who was ignored it would seem; but why the bidg deal?

This is maybe a 2 on scale of 1 to 10, and if (presumably) Buddy learned something from it, great.

All's well.


Sure, if you choose to accept only one side of the story without anything to support it for evidence. Taking the release Chuck made as all encompassing final word and truth of all that happened isnt going to work for me until or unless i get to hear the other side of it, which I may never...but I wont be judging nor forming my view without it. It seems to me taking this "release" at full face value is "assuming an awful lot" as well honestly


Well, the whole thing is such a nothing burger that I'm not sure it really matters what anyone thinks.

No one was shot or robbed or even girly-slapped.

I trust Chuck & his version of this sounds right, but if it isn't exactly, why should anyone care?

A reminder to treat your customers like you value them is a good thing, and everyone should be happy.

But sure - if (presumably) Buddy feels strongly I assume he can respond; just because this is a nothing burger doesn't mean we can't enjoy an epic BDD/Comic Book Guy throwdown over it!
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Maybe the seller had bad experiences with different comic book dealers or shops that it caused him to reached out to Mile High to complete the sale. I had a very bad interaction with a certain OA dealer/rep. If my house was on fire and he wanted to go in to get my OA out and then pay me 5 times the FMV for it I would tell him no. I'd watch it burn instead.
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@Darkseid_of_town

I don’t think this is really taking sides of one dealer over another as much we all have experienced some level of this.

I enjoyed shopping at Lone Star before it was MCS, but I can’t say I agreed with a lot of other things they did.

I assume that’s probably true of most comic shop owners.

It is a business, after all.

For me, it’s more about a staggering amount of comics and cash to be exchanged in one transaction.

If two comic big dogs want to gig each other over it, it doesn’t really move the needle one way or the other for me.

Next time I’m in Denver, I’ll check out Mile High and I’ll still do business with MCS.

Now, I might not sell my collection to either of them, but that more a comment on the business aspect and not an indictment of the two personalities.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
Dealers know that most collectors do not buy large collections. They also know selling books individually is laborious and tedious work. Knowing this gives them an advantage and this is why they can make "low ball" offers. If, as a collector, you know one day you will sell your collection, its easiest to collect key comics only because they move with relative ease. 10% - 15% below FMV and they're out the door. Drek can be priced 80% below FMV and still not move.

EDIT: The key books in Chuck's purchase will move...but the drek, he will be warehousing for a long time. The seller/collector has his $40K in his bank account.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@GAC

I don’t know about you, but I think I don’t like the disparity in keys versus dreck.

There are a lot of really good comics out there that because the storyline isn’t a movie or there isn’t a first appearance of character, they are considered undesirable.

I understand the reasoning behind it, but maybe because I’m a reader first, it just feels odd that a compelling story is considered less than the first appearance of super mega lightning girl pet cat snowball.

Ah, well...
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Chuck shared some of the books he got from Arlington. Here are all the slabs he shared and just a few pictures of the raws.














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I’m Kinda Married To A Celebrity. 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
Man. With a collection like that, list 3 books a day on e-bay. Take one hour out of your day & you’ll have steady income. I wouldn’t sell to a shop.
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Collector Jabberwookie private msg quote post Address this user
@00slim

No kidding. That guy could make a couple grand a month just selling the slabs for a year or so.

At least in the current market.
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Please continue to ignore anything I post. southerncross private msg quote post Address this user
@00slim depends on the situation.

I was getting married and was moving from Australia to the states.
My time was taking up by closing my affairs there, renovating my condo where I needed plumbers to fix a leak in the shower.
I'd painted all the inside and had floor coverings installed.

I had a couple of thousand DVDs that I'd found a shop to sell them and was paid like $650. I was amazed as I'd moved towards live streaming as that is the future.
If the dealer said $0 I'd have either given them to him for free or just gave them to family to keep or sell at garage sale and keep the money.

Pulled 350 comics out of about 12 long boxes as that was all that I could get in 2 suitcases.
Kept the cream of my collection and books that had sentimental value.

Sold the rest to my dealer who I bought many of those books from originally.

Got about $2k all up cash.

Hard and soft cover trades.
Set of gerber golden age hard covers.
FF annual 1, other early FF including 1st Black panther, inhumans, Him, under copy flash 139, TOS 1st Mandarin, black widow.
Run Sub-mariner from 15-72
High grade bronze books.
Run of Defenders.
X-Men 101-295
12c spidys run 304-390
1st captain marvel, guardians ect in raw 7.0
Avengers l2centers
Strange takes, TOS and a lot more silver age.
Dr who collectibles and toys, quite a lot actually.

I also sold a lot of paper and non key run books.


I didn't have the time to sell the books individually

I did sell thru consignment a month before leaving.

Avengers 2,3,4 hulk 3 Spidey 300, NM 98 ect.

Didn't want to burden family with my collection as it took me 6 years to get back to Australia to visit.

So a fire sale was needed.
Do I regret what I sold yep.
I only replaced FF annual 1 and Batman 426, 427 and 429

Bright side my collection looks so completely different now as I've bought books I've never owned before.

And of the original 350 books I kept were
Avengers 1, justice league 1, FF single numbers. 50 pedigrees plus key silver Flashes

So the seller may have needed the money quickly or he needed to move the stuff with no fuss.

We may never know.
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I’m Kinda Married To A Celebrity. 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
@southerncross There are always situations for a fire sale.

My thought was, if I simply decided to sell a collection such as that.

And Chuck claimed the guy had been trying to sell for months.

As was said, we’ll never know the specifics, but why the mega keys didn’t at least go to e-bay in this situation is a curiosity.
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I don't believe this....and I know you don't care that I don't believe this. GAC private msg quote post Address this user
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@GAC

I don’t know about you, but I think I don’t like the disparity in keys versus dreck.

There are a lot of really good comics out there that because the storyline isn’t a movie or there isn’t a first appearance of character, they are considered undesirable.

I understand the reasoning behind it, but maybe because I’m a reader first, it just feels odd that a compelling story is considered less than the first appearance of super mega lightning girl pet cat snowball.

Ah, well...


I hear what you're saying and I'm not saying that how it is, is right or wrong, it's just how it is. Key books move faster. Maybe the definition of what a key book is needs to be addressed. I was just pointing out the reality of our hobby...right or wrong, it is what it is.
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I hear their hourly rate is outrageous! sportshort private msg quote post Address this user
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Man. With a collection like that, list 3 books a day on e-bay. Take one hour out of your day & you’ll have steady income. I wouldn’t sell to a shop.


This!
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@GAC

I don’t know about you, but I think I don’t like the disparity in keys versus dreck.

There are a lot of really good comics out there that because the storyline isn’t a movie or there isn’t a first appearance of character, they are considered undesirable.

I understand the reasoning behind it, but maybe because I’m a reader first, it just feels odd that a compelling story is considered less than the first appearance of super mega lightning girl pet cat snowball.

Ah, well...


I hear what you're saying and I'm not saying that how it is, is right or wrong, it's just how it is. Key books move faster. Maybe the definition of what a key book is needs to be addressed. I was just pointing out the reality of our hobby...right or wrong, it is what it is.


Oh, I get what you’re saying.

Your comment just triggered a non-sequitur for me.

If you think about it, this current comic frenzy is kind of new.

We’d never really had so much news and so many options to make a key explode.

I mean if you’d bought the first Iron Man in 2006, it would have cost pennies compared to now.

It’s just insane the money being thrown around and my guess is, like you mentioned, there may be some discussion about what constitutes a key soon.

It sure feels like we are at the beginning of something.
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@Jabberwookie I wonder if this frenzy can be sustained? Certainly the reason comic culture is so popular now is because the people who loved them back in the day are now in positions to influence and dictate pop culture (Hollywood primarily) and consumers who now have the funds to buy these expensive books. If there isn't a generation behind us that is as interested (or hopefully more so) then this frenzy will not be sustainable.
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I’ve been reading comics (my brothers monthly new stacks) since the mid 1960’s, but only started owning any in 2013, purely as an investment vehicle.
Not as liquid, not as volatile as stocks. I know many who see graded books as investment, not love so much.
My son owns a collectibles store, many in his generation collect, not just comics, and value is a big reason why, bigger than love.
There will be no crash in my opinion, the movies, the TV guarantee it, and things like Wandavision bring many into the investments, due to its brilliance. It is a modern, less boring rom-com. The old ones ran dry, but comics stories have unlimited angles to keep the story telling fresh. Bullish!
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Thank you sir. May I have another? Siggy private msg quote post Address this user
Good books, but no jaw-dropping grades- Most impressive one I'd say is WBN32.
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I’m Kinda Married To A Celebrity. 00slim private msg quote post Address this user
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Good books, but no jaw-dropping grades- Most impressive one I'd say is WBN32.


That was the one that jumped out to me, too. Lower grades are pretty liquid, though.

And that GSX is worth some bucks in mid-grade.
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You think I'm joking, I'm not. earthshaker01 private msg quote post Address this user
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@00slim

No kidding. That guy could make a couple grand a month just selling the slabs for a year or so.

At least in the current market.
I have a lot of slabs and considering doing that.
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@GAC @doog

I agree with both of what ya'll are saying.

I think that the Hollywood execs have to see that there are hundreds of thousands of storylines out there that are willing to be used.

I'd have to guess that it's easier to adapt a story rather write a brand new one, so we may see our hobby getting pretty thoroughly strip mined.

But, here's my question to you both, and everyone really, at what point do some of the death/ rebirth/ alternate reality storylines turn off the casual comic movie goer?

I just think if you make it where the X-Men movies all happened in another reality, you might be able to get away with that once, but to chuck everything out that people paid money on and emotionally invested themselves in might be a deal killer for most.

That might lessen the movies, but I think streaming shows are here to stay and probably the better vehicle for comic heroes.
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