Zack Snyder's Justice League (Official Trailer)13930

Originally Posted by Darkseid_of_town
I guess I dont see the point in a discussion where noone else is allowed to form a differing view or opinion based on there own bias, likes and life experiences.
Isnt it possible that each one of us lives life differently, forms differing views, values and ideals based on their own merits and no two have to be alike?
If one could allow that possibility then its only one little tiny step more to realize that a differing view does not pose a threat to the view another might hold...in fact Einstein suggested once the most intelligent people are those who can hold as many differing views of the same issue as possible.

Originally Posted by Themaxx35
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3- Would have preferred more focus on Superman, but the movie was packed full as is.

4- Some stuff that I thought was Joss ended up being Snyder. The Superman freeze breathing on Steppenwolfe's ax made me eye roll in the theater, and it made me eye roll here. The "not impressed" line was hokey. Steppenwolfe still gets thrown around like a rag doll by the league at the end. I would have liked to see him pose more of a challenge to Superman.

6- The inclusion of Martian Manhunter seemed rushed. CGI could have used another once over and the conversation with Bruce at the end was odd. Still glad the character was introduced.

7- A little too melodramatic is some places. I could have gone without the Nordic villagers singing farewell to Aquaman.

8- Did Mera use a faux British accent in Aquaman? Her accent here threw me off and reminded me of Carrie Fisher's attempt at a British accent in a New Hope. Amber Heard is still crazy hot (crazy AND hot to be more specific).

9- The script could have used a review when it comes to the anti-life equation. Diana's history lesson states Darkseid found it here on earth 5,000 years ago. Did he just forget about earth? Why was Steppenwolfe's message that he had found the world again come as a surprise? I may have missed something on my first view.

That's it for now. Doing another viewing this weekend. My thoughts might change.

TLDR - I liked it a lot. Very happy it was released. Want to see the story continue on HBO Max. Would kill to have the Batman/Deathstroke movie that was teased. Not sure how to rank it against MOS and BVS, but would probably be third right now.

Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus
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Originally Posted by Towmater
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As opposed to the majority of reviews that gave it positive remarks?

You haven't supported your view on Superman. In fact, I just re-watched Man of Steel yesterday, and Superman is not "whiny" nor "woe is me" in a single scene. There is no point in changing the subject to other movies. Can you also support this, "...ramble along providing glimpses into things that don't have anything to do with driving the story"?

If you don't understand Jonathan Kent's advice, I have explained some of it earlier in this thread.

To quote you I've explained my views on the whiney, oh woe is me alien Synder birthed and forced on the audience earlier in the thread.

I see you still choose to ignore Sucker Punch. Smart decision. One can't defend the indefensible. What a steamy mess that was directed, written, and produced by Synder turned out to be. I wonder if the final product caused the first seeds of doubt to form in the Warner Brothers about who they believed was a good choice to create the DC universe in film. Maybe that along with the record box office take that the people on the other side of the street got compared to the Synder box office help them reevaluate things?

Now that a few posts and days have gone by, I'll thank Miller for the 300 film and graphic novel. Smart man, forcing Synder to stay true to the source material. Hard to mess it up that way.

You haven't. Just point me to 1 scene where he's "whiny". That shouldn't be too difficult a task if that's the basis of his character? I'm ignoring changing the subject because it has nothing to do with Worlds of DC.

Originally Posted by Towmater
On the World of DC comment, I don't follow? You brought the 300 up in post 136 and point to it as being produced without a problem. The 300 was published under Dark Horse. It was produced without an issue because Miller sold it without a chance of the source material being changed. You can't point to the 300 and then pull out the it isn't a part of the DC whatever when someone points to another movie. You have to sidestep Sucker Punch because there isn't anything that can be defended in the directed by, written by, produced by Zack project.

The whiney alien has been covered but I'll provide another point on it. Clark in Alaska and what he does to the truck. That's what a spoiled whiney backbiter does to get vengeance. That isn't what a hero does to get justice. That isn't what Martha and Jonathan would have taught nor the actions that they would have seen come to pass in the comics. That's what you get when Synder gets his hands on a character and follows along with his views that everyone is as bent as Rorschach and his band of pals from the Watchmen.

Originally Posted by theCapraAegagrus
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I have turned 100,000 worlds to dust looking for those who robbed me of my glory." He did get messed up by Ares. It seems that they can't outright find Earth if it isn't for the Mother Boxes.

Yeah I’ve been thinking about that too. They reference the multi-verse and universes so maybe it’s not as simple to navigate back to an old planet among trillions in existence and with alternate realities and if the mother boxes were asleep maybe they couldn’t pinpoint the location. That’s a simple enough exclamation for me it was just a minor quibble.

Overall still loved it. My “complaints” are more just observations.

As for freeze breath, I’m in the camp thinking it’s a silly silver age power that should be left in the silver age. I wouldn’t have liked it being used no matter how it was done. But it was for sure better here than in the theatrical and they thankfully dropped silly line about being a “fan of justice”

Over all, about a 9/10 for me or thereabouts. Now give me Deathstroke v Batman!

I know. I'm not dismissing them. Just trying to have a conversation to see what makes sense.

One thing that isn't entirely clear, is that DeSaad says, "now that the Mother Boxes are destroyed". If that's the case, is the Knightmare even still a possibility? I know that The Unity and Anti-Life are 2 different things, but isn't The Unity required to turn Earth into Apokolips?